Games freezes when using flak cannon in high risk areas - anyone else encountering this bug?

[BurntFaceMan]

Just seeing how common a bug this is for others, seeing as I'm experiencing it pretty reliably and have seen a few others make posts about it - some say they have had the freeze happen when using something other than flak cannon, but personally I've only encountered it when using flak.

Only other times I've had the freeze happen outside of high risk areas is during the story mission where you need to defend a character at avonrest from Okkar patrols, and huge numbers of them spawn in waves.

The freeze happens either just after firing the flak, or when the flak bullet connects with enemies and just before or after it explodes.

Had 7 freezes so far, all under these circumstances - playing on gamepass version, so curious if steam users on full release version are also experiencing it.

[Zee_]

I've gotten 2 game freezes when using the Flak Cannon so far (little less than 9 hours played as of this post).

Both times it's been when fighting multiple enemies during ambush events, take out multiples with my cannon and then when there's only 1 ship left, instant freeze the second that last ship gets hit.

First time I was playing in Dx12, second time was with DX11, so the direct x version doesn't seem to matter, only how many ships/explosions have gone off in the last minute or so.

[Carlos Spicywiener]

Experiencing the same with the flak cannon. Freezes just before the ship blows up

[This PC]

I've encountered this bug as well, downgrading from DX12 to DX11 fixed it for me. ♥

I've had this freeze in high-risk areas, specifically using flak cannon, when an outlaw drone carrier goes explodey after being sprayed with flak for a while. Happened twice before I switched to DX11. Haven't had it since.

[BurntFaceMan]

Originally posted by jdtuggey:

I've encountered this bug as well, downgrading from DX12 to DX11 fixed it for me. ♥

I've had this freeze in high-risk areas, specifically using flak cannon, when an outlaw drone carrier goes explodey after being sprayed with flak for a while. Happened twice before I switched to DX11. Haven't had it since.

I was thinking it might be a dx12 issue, but can't for the life of me figure out how to change to dx11 - I'm playing on gamepass version and the renderer option is greyed out and always on dx12 - any tips?

[Sanzor]

Originally posted by BurntFaceMan:

I was thinking it might be a dx12 issue, but can't for the life of me figure out how to change to dx11 - I'm playing on gamepass version and the renderer option is greyed out and always on dx12 - any tips?

Not sure if Gamepass has the same option, but in Steam you can apply a "-dx11" in the launch options in Properties of the game. Maybe you can do the same on Gamepass.

[-shhfiftyfive]

by freeze, do you mean app hang/game not responding? (game crash but doesn't close - alt tab to kill it manually...)

or are you unable to alt tab to close the game? (mouse function is gone, which is a full pc freeze.)

or is this just a long stutter, and you can continue after a period, without restarting?

[BurntFaceMan]

Originally posted by Sanzor:

Originally posted by BurntFaceMan:

I was thinking it might be a dx12 issue, but can't for the life of me figure out how to change to dx11 - I'm playing on gamepass version and the renderer option is greyed out and always on dx12 - any tips?

Not sure if Gamepass has the same option, but in Steam you can apply a "-dx11" in the launch options in Properties of the game. Maybe you can do the same on Gamepass.

yeah I did some googling and it just isn't possible in gamepass version it seems - oh well, I just won't be using flak for anything but mining and small skirmishes I guess (crying because my only legendary is a flak.)

Originally posted by -shhfiftyfive:

by freeze, do you mean app hang/game not responding? (game crash but doesn't close - alt tab to kill it manually...)

or are you unable to alt tab to close the game? (mouse function is gone, which is a full pc freeze.)

or is this just a long stutter, and you can continue after a period, without restarting?

It's a total freeze wherein the game stops responding and I am unable to alt tab at all - only ways to close the game and stop it running are either full pc restart, or using tab and windows key to create a new desktop, and then using task manager in the new desktop to close everspace.

Sometimes the game does freeze and hang for a second or two then resumes, mostly when jumping into a new planet with a lot of enemies - but the flak cannon freeze is a complete freeze where waiting doesn't resolve it.

[Spy]

It also happened when playing Ancient Rift too. I think before 1.0 this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ case not happened.

[^1R^7ocky^1R^7ocketeer]

Flak weapon is one of my favorite weapons mostly because it's the best mine and drone cleaner due to it's AoE effect. No freezing issues yet and I have been using it plenty in high risk areas as well. I'm playing on a fairly old rig though with an NV 1070 still so it might be related to more modern hardware maybe. You just never know since the biggest pain of having to develop games for PC's is the diversity in hardware/hardware drivers which inherently is more prone to bugs.

[ruby]

Happend to me too. In a HR Area just as the boss explodes by flak it froze.
But that was one time in 10hrs playtime.

[pRaX]

Hmm, never experienced this. Also never had a crash.
Was actually surprised how polished the game is on my end.

Running it in DX12 on a 9900k+3080 and Win10.

[Misfit]

same here.
thought its just random, but i also always freezed with flak in high risk.

[Tijger]

I've had the same but only during the hard enemies challenges, not during regular gameplay. I'm not sure this helps but for me its only happened in Union systems on challenges and when I've been attacking eithe Drone carrier or Destroyers.

[Chribas]

I played for about 40 hours with multiple weapons in high risk areas and not one crash. I decide to give Flak a try and almost every time I do high risk areas it locks up, especially taking out drone carriers.

[BurntFaceMan]

Originally posted by ^1C^7ookie^1M^7onster:

Flak weapon is one of my favorite weapons mostly because it's the best mine and drone cleaner due to it's AoE effect. No freezing issues yet and I have been using it plenty in high risk areas as well. I'm playing on a fairly old rig though with an NV 1070 still so it might be related to more modern hardware maybe. You just never know since the biggest pain of having to develop games for PC's is the diversity in hardware/hardware drivers which inherently is more prone to bugs.

I am also using a 1070 - I have quite an old cpu too, like the same one my pc has had for 10+ years now.

Could still be hardware related regardless.

My best theory is it's to do with damage calculation and other computations happening en-masse and in rapid succession with flak being used constantly in a big fight - but even then, just a guess - if it was graphics related, I've no idea why freezes don't occur when using anything else, even in the most gpu intensive and lag inducing battles and maps.