Any Chance Of Dark Urge Being Added As A Full Companion?

[DrDeadRed]

I just played through the game as them, loved it.

But that introduction monologue was what really hooked me and missing out on that VA was a shame, I prefer a silent protag for most of these types of games(mainly just for the dialogue system most voiced protags are forced to use tend to be a lot more restrictive) but that VA and that performance even after playing the whole game is still my favourite in the game.

There's certainly enough material for Dark Urge to be a fully fledged companion, my main theory as to why he isnt and probably wont be made one sadly is that; (really big spoiler)

Dark Urge seems like its pretty much the cannon or at least intended cannon backstory for the player character, their a decendent of one of the Three gods of death and the chosen of them who actually started the whole plot to dominate the elder brain and build the cult to end the world etc.

This sort of backstory for me at least seems to really have that big dramatic conflict between good and evil the players will have and it really adds a lot to the story compared to just a normal og player character. That Dark Urge can also just be totally customised in everyway from the start like a og custom player character also seems to heavily imply this.

Anyway, I know theres pretty much no chance of it happening but even so I just thought I would vent a bit about how cool it would be for them to be a full companion.

I would 100% happily pay for them to be added as some sort of DLC, even if doing that wouldnt make much sense given their already in the game it would be so worth it to have them as a companion or even for them to just occasionally just have sections or seances where the VA is used as if the game was voiced(obviously not for most areas or dialogue just big character stuff and plot bits.)

[Zaris]

After reading the cut content thread it's the other way around. Dark Urge was most likely the default main hero setting but Larian splitted it to "no background hero" and Dark Urge because it was most likely to "heavy" to have a main character with actual story like - i don't know - Baldurs Gate 1+2 where the hero was also a bhaalspawn and had to fight Bhaals dark urge (word play) in dream scenes.

And of course on top of it Larian had to include these origin characters to be playable as main hero which didn't fitted well i guess with Dark Urge.

[DrDeadRed]

That all makes a lot of sense, I've never played or watched the other baldurs gate games so I had no idea that their MC's were also bhaalspawn.

I can certainly appreciate the appeal of wholly custom player character, but given the story line dark urge goes on and the massively under utilised VA's performance this would have been an instance where I'd vastly preferred a more character focused MC sort of setup.

Even outside of all this, it still seems like a real missed opportunity not having him be available as a companion at least.

I can certainly see it as being too overly serious or comically evil for some people at times depending on what way you play it, but that sort of thing is right up my ally and I always hunger for a good game that does it well which they did I just wanted more of it or it to be more impactful with that VA being given a chance to perform as the the other characters did.

[Shyba]

I mean.. Dark URge still exists even if you don't play it... they just happen to be DEAD

[Weekend]

I beat dark urge play last night and it is obvious it was intended to be the main character. You get 5-6 more nighttime events and expanded dialogues with your favorite companions. But it is very dark so I can understand why they didnt force it

[EvilDonut]

Astarion is a tuned down version of dark urge tbh

[Shyba]

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

Astarion is a tuned down version of dark urge tbh

not even close... Astarion doesn't want to kill and doesn't NEED to kill sentient beings so he can just go on with his day regardless, DU may or may not want to kill and yet "MUST" kill because the urges are so strong and if they don't..

[ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0]

The dark urge cannot be recruited if u play a custom character.

[EvilDonut]

Originally posted by Shyba:

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

Astarion is a tuned down version of dark urge tbh

not even close... Astarion doesn't want to kill and doesn't NEED to kill sentient beings so he can just go on with his day regardless, DU may or may not want to kill and yet "MUST" kill because the urges are so strong and if they don't..

That is why he is TUNED DOWN. But he WANTS to kill, if that means gaining or showing power

[Shyba]

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

Originally posted by Shyba:

not even close... Astarion doesn't want to kill and doesn't NEED to kill sentient beings so he can just go on with his day regardless, DU may or may not want to kill and yet "MUST" kill because the urges are so strong and if they don't..

That is why he is TUNED DOWN. But he WANTS to kill, if that means gaining or showing power

but teh same could be said for any of the "Borderline" evil companions like him/Lae/Minthara all of them will kill if it means benefiting them. that's not the same as DU who gains NOTHING from killing but pleasure(plot based rewards not being counted)

[M13908]

Would be the only dragonborn companion.

[EvilDonut]

Originally posted by Shyba:

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

That is why he is TUNED DOWN. But he WANTS to kill, if that means gaining or showing power

but teh same could be said for any of the "Borderline" evil companions like him/Lae/Minthara all of them will kill if it means benefiting them. that's not the same as DU who gains NOTHING from killing but pleasure(plot based rewards not being counted)

Minthara is not ''borderline evil''. She is plain CE

[女王 [Queen]]

I dont think so. There's a big reason they cut it from the MC, and I think its purely because its just really f*cked up and would make alot players uncomfortable. The scene with the bard so early on is a perfect example, as someone who does enjoy dark fantasy even I found the scene shocking and horrifying since I myself didn't get a say in it. 'The Dark Urge' ripped control from me and hurt someone innocent, and I think for a lot of players for that kind of thing to be the MC and unavoidable- Well, you've seen this forum, they'd whine and cry to an even bigger extreme.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Zaris:

After reading the cut content thread it's the other way around. Dark Urge was most likely the default main hero setting but Larian splitted it to "no background hero" and Dark Urge because it was most likely to "heavy" to have a main character with actual story like - i don't know - Baldurs Gate 1+2 where the hero was also a bhaalspawn and had to fight Bhaals dark urge (word play) in dream scenes.

And of course on top of it Larian had to include these origin characters to be playable as main hero which didn't fitted well i guess with Dark Urge.

I can see it because in BG1/2 you played as a Bhaalspawn...but you didn't really get anything resembling temptation by evil. Heck, BG 1 was a game about either saving people's kittens or NOT saving their kittens. It didn't even have room for an actively evil option.

I can see it being a bit controversial to actually have you play such a dark character by default.

[女王 [Queen]]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Zaris:

After reading the cut content thread it's the other way around. Dark Urge was most likely the default main hero setting but Larian splitted it to "no background hero" and Dark Urge because it was most likely to "heavy" to have a main character with actual story like - i don't know - Baldurs Gate 1+2 where the hero was also a bhaalspawn and had to fight Bhaals dark urge (word play) in dream scenes.

And of course on top of it Larian had to include these origin characters to be playable as main hero which didn't fitted well i guess with Dark Urge.

I can see it because in BG1/2 you played as a Bhaalspawn...but you didn't really get anything resembling temptation by evil. Heck, BG 1 was a game about either saving people's kittens or NOT saving their kittens. It didn't even have room for an actively evil option.

I can see it being a bit controversial to actually have you play such a dark character by default.

I point to the unavoidable bard scene as the preem example of why it just wouldn't work as the MC of this game. So frankly, it was a great idea to cut and split it

[Weekend]

for real, it lets you will save against murdering everyone else, but not the nice bard lady