Gondians attacking me after Steel Watch Foundry

[Gonorrhea Gollum]

I saved every gondian in the submarine, same in the steel watch. Destroyed the foundry, but after the dialogue with Zanner Toobin, all the gondolians attacked me after a few seconds. Am I doing something wrong? How can i prevent this weird situation?

[Zackerie]

gondians v deep gnomes. literally comes outta nowhere, and the dude is out for blood for no reason. I guess it is meant to show even if you save everyone, it isn't always a good thing. but it is thrust on the player, and is not earned in anyway. It doesn't even make that much sense. I was able to talk the deep gnomes to not fight the gondians right away. but unsure what the interaction looks like if you don't handle the deep gnomes how I did.

[Gonorrhea Gollum]

So, just because I've saved the deep gnomes in the grymforge, now I'm supposed to kill all the gondians even after i helped/saved them?

[Zackerie]

did you also save them in moonrise? There was a dialogue between the two leaders and I was able to convince the deep gnome leader to back off. wulbern I think his name is.

[Gonorrhea Gollum]

..no. So maybe that's why

[RAINgoesUP]

I saved the ones in moonrise and he’s still attacking :/

[Zackerie]

Originally posted by RAIN:

I saved the ones in moonrise and he’s still attacking :/

yeah I needed to pass a persuasion check. are you getting a dialogue or are they just attacking. I dunno the ins and outs of this quest at all tbh.

[Geri döndüm beybi]

i have a similar problem i havent done the submarine i went to destroy the steelwatchers and killed the bane followers persuaded and saved the gondians in the first encounter than found the guy in the back who told me to save the prisoners but he doesn't know where they are tells me to go deeper to find where it is but here is the problem as soon as i enter deeper levels i enter combat and gondians are not neautral or ally but enemies they are attacking to me and i saved every one in the base floor didnt attack any one

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by Geri döndüm beybi:

i have a similar problem i havent done the submarine i went to destroy the steelwatchers and killed the bane followers persuaded and saved the gondians in the first encounter than found the guy in the back who told me to save the prisoners but he doesn't know where they are tells me to go deeper to find where it is but here is the problem as soon as i enter deeper levels i enter combat and gondians are not neautral or ally but enemies they are attacking to me and i saved every one in the base floor didnt attack any one

the gnomes are hostile to protect the banites, because their families is hostages in the iron throne. Fearing they get killed if they dont drive you out. Kill them all, or do the iron throne first.

The gondian gnomes will rebel if you save the hostages.

[Nihilist Zealot]

Experiencing this particular issue-- First attempt I went through went without a hitch, no hostilities from the Gondians rebelling; but I ended up directing Toobin to a vent, and he got taken out of the party and zapped into non-existence, so I had to reload to just before the encounter in the Steel Watch Foundry. Cleared the Banites again, but after speaking with Toobin the remaining 3 Gondians became hostile to my entire party, Toobin included.

I didn't manage to save EVERY Gondian hostage, think I was short 3, but that seems a bit far-fetched to be the reasoning behind these gnomes attacking me... likely a bug, good ol' Larian does weave such a tangled web their rules are more akin to guidelines and are bafflingly esoteric at the worst of times, and finicky at best.

[Lora Grim]

If you talk the deep gnomes down, you will learn/realize that they are in fact evil.
So after i did that, i reloaded to kill them. They are awful people.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Lora Grim:

If you talk the deep gnomes down, you will learn/realize that they are in fact evil.
So after i did that, i reloaded to kill them. They are awful people.

Here is your bicycle helmet and sofa cushion fort to weather the storm of people screaming "Well actually, trying to ♥♥♥♥ over players is never evil! Even if their alignment on the chart says evil!"

[Lora Grim]

Originally posted by ImHelping:

Here is your bicycle helmet and sofa cushion fort to weather the storm of people screaming "Well actually, trying to ♥♥♥♥ over players is never evil! Even if their alignment on the chart says evil!"

Screwing me over i do not mind.
What bothered me is that they wanted to slaughter innocent people out of envy. Out of greed. Jealousy.

In da trash goes that particular band of deep gnomes.
( says me, the person who picked the objectively evil ending )

[Moonbane]

Not entirely right, you can talk the good deep gnome into deposing his former friend as leader of the Ironhands deep gnomes. Taking them over and exiling the would be powermad gondian gnome exterminator
The good one is the one you rescue from the windmill in act 1, and you have to talk to him in act 2 after saving the other deep gnomes from moonrise. Then finally at their hideout in rivington.

[vincent5678]

Originally posted by Pirate All 2K games:

Originally posted by RAIN:

I saved the ones in moonrise and he’s still attacking :/

yeah I needed to pass a persuasion check. are you getting a dialogue or are they just attacking. I dunno the ins and outs of this quest at all tbh.

I saved every gnome, but as soon as the blind one helps me I will get locked into a loop of "getting caught trespassing if I am with my main avi, and if I menage to get to the camp, my allies attack me there too

[ULTRA]

I saved every gnome except for Toobin's daughter, so Larian's brilliant quest tree decided I purposely killed all the Gondians' family members and the Gondians attacked me