Rogue or Bard ?

[Saydo]

I want to pass most of my skill checks in the game. I intend to play at story difficulty and don't care much for combat for now. I thought Rogue and Bard are best because of their skill proficiencies. Which one would be better?

[BigJ]

Bard only.

[LeftPaw]

BARD. Now in my small voice, Bard.

[PocketYoda]

Monk/Rogue.

[hannibal_pjv]

Lawfull neutral is rules follower who believes in balance between good and bad. Balance Ying and Yang. It works just fine. Strict druid order driven druid could be one example. Wild druids tends to be true neutral.

[Lucifer69]

Bard is definitely the best class for the main, imo. You can definitely have some fun with a lot of the conversation triggers/ rolls. It does make the game a bit easy though. If you roll a bard, paladin, and cleric... considering tactician because it's going to be a breeze once you get a few levels.

I don't care for rogue much, but I do like Asterion in general so I tend to swap him in to keep things fresh.

Just don't pick sorcerer unless you want to leave a bloody trail of destruction. Easily the most busted class. Made even better if you min max it with the ideal race, background, etc.

--Metamagic Quicken allows you to cast any leveled spell instead of a cantrip
--Metamagic Heighten forces saves on all targets in an AoE rather than one
--The Haste spell gives you two actions, full stop. Meaning two spells per round, every round.
--You can Metamagic Twin cast Haste on two targets, making it even more nuts.
--The Wet condition doubles cold and lightning damage on that target. This is incredibly abusable with some of the better Arcane spells.

[TowerWizard]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

If you roll a bard, paladin, and cleric... considering tactician because it's going to be a breeze once you get a few levels.

Can you make your own companions!? How?

[Lucifer69]

You can change classes of origins and multiplayer exists. My group is 4 customs. We aren't min maxed, but even so the sorcerer is leading the charge in destruction.

[TowerWizard]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

You can change classes of origins and multiplayer exists. My group is 4 customs. We aren't min maxed, but even so the sorcerer is leading the charge in destruction.

Can you play multiplayer and control every character yourself?

[***]

Sorcerer, Warlock, Bard or Paladin is the go to if you want dialogue focused MC
Warlock can get additional persuasion proficiency at lv 2 if you want

[Lucifer69]

Trading a cleric for a warlock is no bueno though. We get plenty of check coverage with the cleric, and when combat is required everything just dies on tactician.

You can only have one custom bro. Have you even played the game? It only let's you make one character, no? Same thing in multiplayer. Just four of us joining up with our own toons is all. When one of them isn't on, it's 3 + 1 origin, if we want one of them. You don't share control of your customs.

Edit, though these are some guys I grew up with and we all have similar schedules so it's unlikely we aren't gaming together when any one of us is on. Anyways, bard is my vote purely because you get Asterion for rogue, if you need one.

[TowerWizard]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

You can only have one custom bro. Have you even played the game? It only let's you make one character, no? Same thing in multiplayer. Just four of us joining up with our own toons is all. When one of them isn't on, it's 3 + 1 origin, if we want one of them. You don't share control of your customs.

https://lucrorpg.com/bg3-4-custom-characters-party/#:~:text=In%20vanilla%20Baldur%E2%80%99s%20Gate%203%2C%20it%20is%20impossible,in%20BG3.%20That%20trick%20involves%20abusing%20multiplayer%20instances.

"By running multiple Baldur’s Gate 3 instances, you can create your own custom 4 characters party. Simply create a lobby and join it with other BG3 instances. That will allow you to create BG3 full custom party. Once you created your characters, save and exit. So that you can enjoy your custom group with only one client. Just the way you like it.

All you have to do is running BG3.exe multiple times. However, that might overburden your computer. Because of that I recommend lowering BG3 graphics settings to very low. Once you create 4 characters, you can simply re-arrange graphic settings to your liking."

Have YOU even played the game?

[frowningmirror]

Bard is good conversationalist with high charisma and often decent dex, and can make your other teammates pass their checks. If you want to do every skill check, take human and take skilled feat at level 4 you should have 8 proficiencies, the rest is just getting cantrips cast on you.

[TowerWizard]

Originally posted by frowningmirror:

Bard is good conversationalist with high charisma and often decent dex, and can make your other teammates pass their checks. If you want to do every skill check, take human and take skilled feat at level 4 you should have 8 proficiencies, the rest is just getting cantrips cast on you.

You can get two additional skill proficiencies by multiclassing to warlock.

[ojaiike]

Originally posted by frowningmirror:

Bard is good conversationalist with high charisma and often decent dex, and can make your other teammates pass their checks. If you want to do every skill check, take human and take skilled feat at level 4 you should have 8 proficiencies, the rest is just getting cantrips cast on you.

Always take ability score increase or pollard master or one of the ranged/melee power attacks. None of the other feats are worth it compared to +1 on all your rolls. It sucks and isn't fun, but that just is how 5e works.

[Lucifer69]

Originally posted by TowerWizard:

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

You can only have one custom bro. Have you even played the game? It only let's you make one character, no? Same thing in multiplayer. Just four of us joining up with our own toons is all. When one of them isn't on, it's 3 + 1 origin, if we want one of them. You don't share control of your customs.

https://lucrorpg.com/bg3-4-custom-characters-party/#:~:text=In%20vanilla%20Baldur%E2%80%99s%20Gate%203%2C%20it%20is%20impossible,in%20BG3.%20That%20trick%20involves%20abusing%20multiplayer%20instances.

"By running multiple Baldur’s Gate 3 instances, you can create your own custom 4 characters party. Simply create a lobby and join it with other BG3 instances. That will allow you to create BG3 full custom party. Once you created your characters, save and exit. So that you can enjoy your custom group with only one client. Just the way you like it.

All you have to do is running BG3.exe multiple times. However, that might overburden your computer. Because of that I recommend lowering BG3 graphics settings to very low. Once you create 4 characters, you can simply re-arrange graphic settings to your liking."

Have YOU even played the game?

Sigh... This isn't so easy. I mean, you are right, but less than 0,1% of Steam users have the hardware to pull it off.

Even at low, you will be running a powerpoint. Out of curiosity, my R9 5950X/ RX 6900XT struggles to even run two instances, let alone four. The biggest hurdle in this attempt is the 22 GB of RAM and 10 GB of VRAM usage when running all four instances.

The minute RAM/ VRAM capacity is exceeded, you'll likely get a crash. Some games will still run, but they'll instantly become sluggish as assets are juggled around instead of being able to load everything required into memory.

You really only have to create a Paladin and Sorcerer though. You already have a Cleric, Warlock, and you can multiclass Asterion for 7 Bard 3 Rogue.