Problematic dream sequences...

[Shinimaru]

As if the other weird sexual pushes in a certain direction isn't bad enough, the wirm lady forces herself on me during the dream sequence. And of course I chose all of the rejection dialogue options, but it keeps pushing and talks as if it is gonna break me down 🤮 🤦🏿‍♂️...

This is disgusting. There is nothing sexy about a woman coming at me like that! Being pushed to bend to someones will is not erotic to me.

Why is this game trying to force someone else's sexual fantasy on me???

And then gale tries some peer pressure bs to get me to act like I like it. This is so creepy. Why would they put this into a video game?

Who's choice was it to add all this sexual stuff into this game in the first place?

I don't remember this crap in dos 2 or bg2.

The game would be just fine without any sexual stuff or romance mechanics...

Don't you know, if you signed up for a table top DND session or played with friends, if the dm tried to force sexual encounters into the game that were unwanted and creepy, that would be a red flag wouldn't it??

Why are they making these choices? I'm sure it's not the whole dev teem. Just som weirdo pushing their erotic fantasy into a game that absolutely doesn't need it.

I'm getting all into going into the goblin camp to get the druid completely emersed, then I take a long rest to get my spells back and BOOM femdom porn for play... Completely running my play session and killing my Emersion!

Why? Who is this crap for?

[Redfuryin]

go outside

[Leo]

The majority of the Dungeons and Dragons community, that's who this 'crap is for', you don't need to play it, just like I don't need to play for example Mortal Kombat which to me is just weirdly cringe torture porn. Funny how you've probably never complained about that though right?

Also most of the players want this, so feel free to go!

[Shinimaru]

Originally posted by Leo:

The majority of the Dungeons and Dragons community, that's who this 'crap is for', you don't need to play it, just like I don't need to play for example Mortal Kombat which to me is just weirdly cringe torture porn. Funny how you've probably never complained about that though right?

Also most of the players want this, so feel free to go!

I'm part of the DND community and I been waiting decades for a video game to do DND right. Bg3 does everything else right but the force some weird erotica into places they shouldn't be.

If you want to wank to your DND games that's on you. Go have some PRIVATE table top sessions where everyone has given ther CONSENT and IMPUT for erotic subject matter and have at it.

Buying a crpg on steam is not giving consent to have to sit through cringe foreplay scenes that aren't for you.

Fighting dragons and mindflayers and uncovering mysteries while piecing together intricate character builds and strategies? That's what I paid my money for.

You fantasy husband/wife and your bedroom fun is not.

It's one thing when people can choose whether to do that fake "no real life so I need virtual romance bs". But the dream sequences happen automatically.

Now Miss me with your gatekeeping garbage. I'll play what I want to play and say what I have to say about it

[Shinimaru]

Anyway, wouldn't it be better and much less creepy if the dream sequences just had an evil mindflayer floating and look and all badass trying to lure you to the dark side by offering you power? All the mechanics would still work. It fits with the theme of the game and you could role play going the evil rout without having to give in to some forsed sexual seduction.

Or you could get a vision of a lost family member or loved one trying to trick you and you could role play resisting to be good or falling for it to be evil ... Again it covers the same ground and fits in with the story.

There was no need for the weird crap.

[Shinimaru]

Originally posted by Redfuryin:

go outside

Says the first person who responded to a random thread...

[ΕΝ Alexander]

My recommendation would be for you to not use the tadpole if you don't wish to engage with the content that results from it.

As for why the dream sequences are the way they are, it's because a central theme of the game is "temptation". Synonyms of this word are seduce, attract, allure, entice etc... It's a theme that has a degree of sexuality to it by nature.

You can be tempted to do or accept things that aren't sexual, which the tadpole most certainly isn't, but depictions of temptation as a concept, in fantasy especially, are usually sexual. Hence why the succubus is one of the more popular forms temptation tends to take in fiction.

[DeportedFetus]

The worm lady is at least caring and likes you.

[Shinimaru]

Originally posted by Shinimaru:

Originally posted by Leo:

The majority of the Dungeons and Dragons community, that's who this 'crap is for', you don't need to play it, just like I don't need to play for example Mortal Kombat which to me is just weirdly cringe torture porn. Funny how you've probably never complained about that though right?

Also most of the players want this, so feel free to go!

I'm part of the DND community and I been waiting decades for a video game to do DND right. Bg3 does everything else right but the force some weird erotica into places they shouldn't be.

If you want to wank to your DND games that's on you. Go have some PRIVATE table top sessions where everyone has given ther CONSENT and IMPUT for erotic subject matter and have at it.

Buying a crpg on steam is not giving consent to have to sit through cringe foreplay scenes that aren't for you.

Fighting dragons and mindflayers and uncovering mysteries while piecing together intricate character builds and strategies? That's what I paid my money for.

You fantasy husband/wife and your bedroom fun is not.

It's one thing when people can choose whether to do that fake "no real life so I need virtual romance bs". But the dream sequences happen automatically.

Now Miss me with your gatekeeping garbage. I'll play what I want to play and say what I have to say about it

Oh and also, I know quite a few people in "the community" and watched a bunch of content about the game over the years. Forcing unwanted sexual situations into a DND game is, in fact, a red flag and frowned upon. Kill that noise, son!

[Shinimaru]

Originally posted by DeportedFetus:

The worm lady is at least caring and likes you.

Lol she is just trying to use you... It's a manipulation.

A manipulation that could have easily been written without sexual undertones

[Leo]

Originally posted by Shinimaru:

Originally posted by Leo:

The majority of the Dungeons and Dragons community, that's who this 'crap is for', you don't need to play it, just like I don't need to play for example Mortal Kombat which to me is just weirdly cringe torture porn. Funny how you've probably never complained about that though right?

Also most of the players want this, so feel free to go!

I'm part of the DND community and I been waiting decades for a video game to do DND right. Bg3 does everything else right but the force some weird erotica into places they shouldn't be.

If you want to wank to your DND games that's on you. Go have some PRIVATE table top sessions where everyone has given ther CONSENT and IMPUT for erotic subject matter and have at it.

Buying a crpg on steam is not giving consent to have to sit through cringe foreplay scenes that aren't for you.

Fighting dragons and mindflayers and uncovering mysteries while piecing together intricate character builds and strategies? That's what I paid my money for.

You fantasy husband/wife and your bedroom fun is not.

It's one thing when people can choose whether to do that fake "no real life so I need virtual romance bs". But the dream sequences happen automatically.

Now Miss me with your gatekeeping garbage. I'll play what I want to play and say what I have to say about it

'gatekeeping garbage'? You're the one complaining about a game that from day one, from the very first trailer said it would have explicit scenes with the romance options.

You are literally frothing at the mouth with hate and you sound beyond any sane margin if you're getting yourself this wound up. Here's a better idea instead of hurling insults randomly how about YOU refund the game and YOU go off and do a private table top session?

You gave your consent when you saw the initial dev deep dive to the game 2 years where they already showed concept art of how explicit they were going to go with their scenes and decided "This is the game for me"

You are not the majority here, you're the minority, you'd think that'd be obvious. So if it's not for you, how about you just go?

[Brady4444]

I'm not sure that the entity in our dreams is the same as the tadpole. I'm still in the camp that thinks they are different things. I've got no real evidence, just a feeling based on how things are presented. It might be more clear once we can actually go on the main quest.

[Shinimaru]

Originally posted by Alex ✓:

My recommendation would be for you to not use the tadpole if you don't wish to engage with the content that results from it.

As for why the dream sequences are the way they are, it's because a central theme of the game is "temptation". Synonyms of this word are seduce, attract, allure, entice etc... It's a theme that has a degree of sexuality to it by nature.

You can be tempted to do or accept things that aren't sexual, which the tadpole most certainly isn't, but depictions of temptation as a concept, in fantasy especially, are usually sexual. Hence why the succubus is one of the more popular forms temptation tends to take in fiction.

But as I said it could have been done differently.

A mindflayer tempting you with power, palpatine style.

Or some other form of trickery.

I write fiction, there are actually many ways to do a temptation theme that isn't sexual frfr.

I don't see any other sexual themes in the game except the romantic mechanics which can be ignored.

Someone in the dev team chose specifically to make thos dream sequences that way even though there are many other ways to show temptation...

Frfr I wanted to do an evil run and use the tadpole powers. Giving in to the evil mindflayer's temptation of using the power wouldn't feel creepy at all. It we would feel cinematic and pretty badass. Especially since you see the shape of a mindflayer behind your character when you use the powers in combat.

But when I try that run I get those forced cringe scenes instead.

Flat out a giant Cthulhu looking mindflayer with fire and drimstone behind him trying to TEMPT you to the dark side every time you do a long rest would be badass and you know it.

That's your temptation theme right there, done better and in a less problematic way.

[Shinimaru]

Originally posted by Brady4444:

I'm not sure that the entity in our dreams is the same as the tadpole. I'm still in the camp that thinks they are different things. I've got no real evidence, just a feeling based on how things are presented. It might be more clear once we can actually go on the main quest.

But when the vixen gives you the "gift", you then have new powers which clearly show the form of a mindflayer floating behind your character when you cast them.

You have noticed that, right? It's pretty solid evidence.

[Shinimaru]

If I block someone, will it remove their posts from the thread?

[Charnel]

Your opinion is noted but ignored
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