Ok who's moron who has that idiotic brainchild to make champions impossible to beat on solo?

[ExperiencedNoob]

If you compare normal Legentary Quests, and new Rasputin Bunker Quests, difficulty barrier is high as ♥♥♥♥!? Why, and how come? Those Barried, Overload and Unstoppable champions are just IM-POS-SIB-LE to beat alone! And yes. I DO HAVE those weapon mods on, and also know how to use them. BUT! 1. You alwas run out/Dont have enough ammo for those weapons that you could even do considerable amount of damage for any of them. 2. Sometimes theres more than one such champion. So when you hunt another, another will always kill you ... in seconds. 3. Impact of any of those weapons that DO even damage them, is WAAAAYYY too little. They heal faster than you could hurt them.

So: Is this suppose to be enjoyable player experience, morons? Go back to McDonald to sell hamburgers, who ever invented this ♥♥♥♥!

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por maxkidd:

Escrito originalmente por YourBoySquid:

Seriously though, if you aren't 1000 power level, you shouldn't be trying to solo it. Just get a team from the LFG server. And it's really not that hard to swap weapon mods either... Use the Eriana's vow, and then a kinetic that you can mod.

im power level 980..still clearing bunkers easy peezy maybe 1 death during boss fight but ottherwise git gud really.

Yup.

[flymetothemoon]

If you need advice on how to deal with the champions I can help you.

I can fire up my stream and show you how I solo them, or record a video how I solo a bunker and legendary sector.

[Irek442]

I finished two bunkers, only half remained on IO, all legendary sectors I did alone, only one remained. I even did it without dying which gives 100 bits.

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por Irek442   :

I finished two bunkers, only half remained on IO, all legendary sectors I did alone, only one remained. I even did it without dying which gives 100 bits.

Ok.

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por flymetothemoon:

If you need advice on how to deal with the champions I can help you.

I can fire up my stream and show you how I solo them, or record a video how I solo a bunker and legendary sector.

Thanks for offer. But I already had help with two others, that showed how they dealt with them in same Fireteam. And I do already know (some of it thanks to those 2 dudes!) how to handle different Champions. Problem is mostly that you ran out of ammo way too often in it. And that pisses me most at the moment. As that is something you can do absolutely anything about on your own.

[maxkidd]

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

Escrito originalmente por flymetothemoon:

If you need advice on how to deal with the champions I can help you.

I can fire up my stream and show you how I solo them, or record a video how I solo a bunker and legendary sector.

Thanks for offer. But I already had help with two others, that showed how they dealt with them in same Fireteam. And I do already know (some of it thanks to those 2 dudes!) how to handle different Champions. Problem is mostly that you ran out of ammo way too often in it. And that pisses me most at the moment. As that is something you can do absolutely anything about on your own.

scav mods and reserve mods, im running a hand cannon and smg and never have an issue even without mods

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por maxkidd:

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

Thanks for offer. But I already had help with two others, that showed how they dealt with them in same Fireteam. And I do already know (some of it thanks to those 2 dudes!) how to handle different Champions. Problem is mostly that you ran out of ammo way too often in it. And that pisses me most at the moment. As that is something you can do absolutely anything about on your own.

scav mods and reserve mods, im running a hand cannon and smg and never have an issue even without mods

Ok.

[Super-XIX]

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

Run a good burst damage special weapon such as a 1-2 punch or trench barrel shotgun (the season pass one can roll with trench barrel) in addition to an anti barrier kinetic weapon with either a sword with overload mods or Leviathan's Breath, and get used to swapping weapons.

You only use the champion mods to stagger enemies, then you use the special weapon to finish them off. This is incredibly easy to do, even at low light levels.

Hilarious suggestions! : At least that first shotgun one. As I just tried once again (maybe I'm masochist? :P ) That Legendary Quarry once again. (as I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ARE GONNA KILL THOSE TWO LAST Centurios! :D ) ... and if you go even to a shotgun range of those - You are dead. If you even dream of punching them - you are dead. As one-two-punching doed WAAAAAYYY too little damage for those Champions that its even near killing them in time, until they got you. Sword has worked so far best. Unless it runs out of bullets during that swinging - which means you are dead.

And I do have tried also with 4th Horseman. Not even near killing those until it runs out of bullets. And same goes to that mentioned Leviathans Breath, btw. That I already have mentioned, so can I ask please read first what have been already said, please?

PS: And if its "incredible easy to do" please tell me when you get those last two Centurions killed by yourself soloing Quarry? :P

The Barrier Centurions? Fight them one at a time, break the shield and then I burst them down with Xenophage. I don't tend to solo LLSs because it's way easier to find a group on the LFG discord and blow through a couple quickly. I did the Moon LLS that has you fight a Barrier Servitor and two Overload Captains at the same time and decided there was no point doing it solo when you can complete them many times faster with other people.

If you're trying to solo.that stuff, make sure to have ammo finder and scavenger mods, and to understand how to work around champion abilities. It's not gonna be easy, unless you are exceedingly well-geared and know what you are doing.

-e-

It sounds like you're swapping between weapons in the middle of the fights and that is 100% your problem. Get a kinetic SMG and an energy handcannon and fill the other slot with a special weapon so that you can just swap between primary weapons BEFORE A FIGHT to have the champion mod you need, instead of trying to swap during it.

[Irek442]

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

Hilarious suggestions! : At least that first shotgun one. As I just tried once again (maybe I'm masochist? :P ) That Legendary Quarry once again. (as I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ARE GONNA KILL THOSE TWO LAST Centurios! :D ) ... and if you go even to a shotgun range of those - You are dead. If you even dream of punching them - you are dead. As one-two-punching doed WAAAAAYYY too little damage for those Champions that its even near killing them in time, until they got you. Sword has worked so far best. Unless it runs out of bullets during that swinging - which means you are dead.

And I do have tried also with 4th Horseman. Not even near killing those until it runs out of bullets. And same goes to that mentioned Leviathans Breath, btw. That I already have mentioned, so can I ask please read first what have been already said, please?

PS: And if its "incredible easy to do" please tell me when you get those last two Centurions killed by yourself soloing Quarry? :P

The Barrier Centurions? Fight them one at a time, break the shield and then I burst them down with Xenophage. I don't tend to solo LLSs because it's way easier to find a group on the LFG discord and blow through a couple quickly. I did the Moon LLS that has you fight a Barrier Servitor and two Overload Captains at the same time and decided there was no point doing it solo when you can complete them many times faster with other people.

If you're trying to solo.that stuff, make sure to have ammo finder and scavenger mods, and to understand how to work around champion abilities. It's not gonna be easy, unless you are exceedingly well-geared and know what you are doing.

legendary lost sector 13 minutes alone.

[Super-XIX]

Escrito originalmente por Irek442   :

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

The Barrier Centurions? Fight them one at a time, break the shield and then I burst them down with Xenophage. I don't tend to solo LLSs because it's way easier to find a group on the LFG discord and blow through a couple quickly. I did the Moon LLS that has you fight a Barrier Servitor and two Overload Captains at the same time and decided there was no point doing it solo when you can complete them many times faster with other people.

If you're trying to solo.that stuff, make sure to have ammo finder and scavenger mods, and to understand how to work around champion abilities. It's not gonna be easy, unless you are exceedingly well-geared and know what you are doing.

legendary lost sector 13 minutes alone.

And you can blow through them in like 5 minutes with a group. What's your point?

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

Hilarious suggestions! : At least that first shotgun one. As I just tried once again (maybe I'm masochist? :P ) That Legendary Quarry once again. (as I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ARE GONNA KILL THOSE TWO LAST Centurios! :D ) ... and if you go even to a shotgun range of those - You are dead. If you even dream of punching them - you are dead. As one-two-punching doed WAAAAAYYY too little damage for those Champions that its even near killing them in time, until they got you. Sword has worked so far best. Unless it runs out of bullets during that swinging - which means you are dead.

And I do have tried also with 4th Horseman. Not even near killing those until it runs out of bullets. And same goes to that mentioned Leviathans Breath, btw. That I already have mentioned, so can I ask please read first what have been already said, please?

PS: And if its "incredible easy to do" please tell me when you get those last two Centurions killed by yourself soloing Quarry? :P

The Barrier Centurions? Fight them one at a time, break the shield and then I burst them down with Xenophage. I don't tend to solo LLSs because it's way easier to find a group on the LFG discord and blow through a couple quickly. I did the Moon LLS that has you fight a Barrier Servitor and two Overload Captains at the same time and decided there was no point doing it solo when you can complete them many times faster with other people.

If you're trying to solo.that stuff, make sure to have ammo finder and scavenger mods, and to understand how to work around champion abilities. It's not gonna be easy, unless you are exceedingly well-geared and know what you are doing.

-e-

It sounds like you're swapping between weapons in the middle of the fights and that is 100% your problem. Get a kinetic SMG and an energy handcannon and fill the other slot with a special weapon so that you can just swap between primary weapons BEFORE A FIGHT to have the champion mod you need, instead of trying to swap during it.

As (already mentioned, but ... how else) those sectors are meant to pass by Fireteam, then why the game doesn't find you a fireteam? But you have to do it on your own? On other activities it DOES find you Fireteam. And on this PAYED CONTENT it doesn't?! Why? Because Bungie is a lazy ass punch? And what did I payed for then?!? Just that they make game for me, and others, more annoying, more time consuming, and most of all, more "not fun"!? Why? Are they not only lazy, but also morons? :D As at least I concider that this (my first, btw) season pass, was also my LAST season pass!

And all of your "get gud" giddous out there: It doesn't make ANYONE any better on anything, on any game, if you just have to click your mouse button 3-4 more times than on normal PvE gameplay, by killing just those same pretty stupid AI NPC characters. (Ok. AI istn't 1:1 same on Rasputin Bunker legendaries, it's WORST! As: NPC's tend to hide more and faster, and even hide better, without their heads popping out of cover that much. And thats exactly what makes it worst, because that too just adds to that "timeconsumness"! And at least I didn't bought that Season Pass because I wanted spend all my playing time ONLY to play seasonal stuff!
And even that doesn't make you any better playing on anything, if you have to hide all the time on almost any enemy, who constantly one-shot kills you. That just makes you a Psion, and as stupid as Cabal. And thats not any kind of mark of a good or enjoyable gameplay. Its only mark that game Company cant balance their gameplay. As theres even any kind of automatic difficulty adjustment for those sections, but its all the same are you playing them alone, or with Firegroup! Another example how lazy ass folks Bungie is. Even with payed content. Money for Nothing was kinda 80's theme?

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por Irek442   :

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

The Barrier Centurions? Fight them one at a time, break the shield and then I burst them down with Xenophage. I don't tend to solo LLSs because it's way easier to find a group on the LFG discord and blow through a couple quickly. I did the Moon LLS that has you fight a Barrier Servitor and two Overload Captains at the same time and decided there was no point doing it solo when you can complete them many times faster with other people.

If you're trying to solo.that stuff, make sure to have ammo finder and scavenger mods, and to understand how to work around champion abilities. It's not gonna be easy, unless you are exceedingly well-geared and know what you are doing.

legendary lost sector 13 minutes alone.

Yep.
It takes me about 15 min? IF I haven't run out of ammo. Then its impossible and/or takes forever. And as I dont have forever, I rather quit them :P
(With a little help from my little friend, Heavy Frame. Which you DONT HAVE when you try to clear them out first times!)

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

Escrito originalmente por Irek442   :

legendary lost sector 13 minutes alone.

And you can blow through them in like 5 minutes with a group. What's your point?

My point is:
If I pay for something, I DONT want to do MORE work for it by myself also! If those activities are meant for only group play: 1. Why doesn't game then tell so? 2. Why doesn't game find me a group? It does on ie. Vanguard Strikes!? 3. I don't have a goup. And no: I don't even want to spend my time to find group on Discord/Companion, if I have payed for something! Why I should do all the work for something that Bungie should do? On my money.

[maxkidd]

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

And you can blow through them in like 5 minutes with a group. What's your point?

My point is:
If I pay for something, I DONT want to do MORE work for it by myself also! If those activities are meant for only group play: 1. Why doesn't game then tell so? 2. Why doesn't game find me a group? It does on ie. Vanguard Strikes!? 3. I don't have a goup. And no: I don't even want to spend my time to find group on Discord/Companion, if I have payed for something! Why I should do all the work for something that Bungie should do? On my money.

Raids,nightfall,trails,- welcome to destiny harder stuff requires good light level/gear to solo or run it with some squaddies. "all the work" type lfg (activity name here) and do whatever else till you que up. so difficult. Or farm primes/pinnacles till you can clear it solo

[ExperiencedNoob]

Escrito originalmente por maxkidd:

Escrito originalmente por TimppaXL:

My point is:
If I pay for something, I DONT want to do MORE work for it by myself also! If those activities are meant for only group play: 1. Why doesn't game then tell so? 2. Why doesn't game find me a group? It does on ie. Vanguard Strikes!? 3. I don't have a goup. And no: I don't even want to spend my time to find group on Discord/Companion, if I have payed for something! Why I should do all the work for something that Bungie should do? On my money.

Raids,nightfall,trails,- welcome to destiny harder stuff requires good light level/gear to solo or run it with some squaddies. "all the work" type lfg (activity name here) and do whatever else till you que up. so difficult. Or farm primes/pinnacles till you can clear it solo

Sure! Thats fine with me, and thats how all games should be. They get tougher, as you progress! I guess no one would even play any game thats same all the time?
But you don't have to PAY anything for content that you just mentioned! :D And as enemies gets tougher, so do you! As you get better weapons, and you even get better at gaining more precision shots and got better knowledge how to play, like situational awarenes and map knowledge (thats that "git gud" for you "git-gut-giddies! ;) ). So ultimately: You dont have to spend any more time on those end game activities than before, as as enemy is tuffer, so are you!

But if I PAY clear money for that, that game gets more boring, grindier and especially more time consuming, without getting some damn awesome guns to be able to kill those paid content monsters one helluva quick, I dont wanna pay ♥♥♥♥ for such a ♥♥♥♥!