This Land Is My Land

This Land Is My Land

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LadyRayneCloud Oct 15, 2019 @ 4:27am
About "No Planned Female Playable Character"
Is this a personal decision? Because if it's a "Historical" one, you'd be entirely inaccurate.

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/24/notable-important-native-american-warrior-women-of-the-19th-century/

* Buffalo Calf Road Woman
* Dahteste
* Lozen
* Woman Chief (Pine Leaf)
* Running Eagle
* Awashonks - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awashonks

Etc

There are plenty of examples of females leading tribes, of them being warriors, and as a Cherokee / Sappony-Sioux Native American, I really have to question your decision making here.
Originally posted by Natalino:
To answer your question, this is a decision made by the dev team. Not due to the historical accuracy part.
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Does this mean you go to the discussion pages of all the games with only female protagonists available and complain? No? Didn't think so.

Get a hobby.
duuzyb Oct 16, 2019 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by Hadley:
Does this mean you go to the discussion pages of all the games with only female protagonists available and complain? No? Didn't think so.

Get a hobby.

100 % agree, last thing that any game need are feminist spreading propaganda.

If I produce a product it`s up to me as owner to what it will contain, not customer and i didn`t see any "100 % historical acurate" futture of this product.
articulategrunt Oct 17, 2019 @ 2:20pm 
As a guy, it would still be a nice option. You know what else would be nice? Female NPCs. no extra actions needed, but, there are farms. These normally had women and kids once they got established, such as being in the enemy held territory. You go raiding a farm and screw up alerting the residents inside and not only does the lady of the farm step out with a shotgun but little timmy lets lassie loose to chew on your butt? Now that is some immersion. On the flip side of intimidation missions instead of just killing everyone to beat down and intimidate the husband/father and they abandon the farm. Positive karma instead of just killing everyone which should net you massive negative karma.
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Natalino  [developer] Oct 17, 2019 @ 3:04pm 
To answer your question, this is a decision made by the dev team. Not due to the historical accuracy part.
Jaxon108 Oct 17, 2019 @ 9:29pm 
The game is made by 4 people. Would you rather have them work on boob psychics or the core gameplay :steamfacepalm:
Dreamblade Oct 19, 2019 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by LadyRayneCloud:
Is this a personal decision? Because if it's a "Historical" one, you'd be entirely inaccurate.

There are plenty of examples of females leading tribes, of them being warriors, and as a Cherokee / Sappony-Sioux Native American, I really have to question your decision making here.

The game isn't really a Historical RPG. In many ways it's more of a rogue 'lite' than an actual recounting of history. It does have many historical elements but I believe a lot of that is mostly for visual dressing. If anything it's a little anachronistic covering a period as far as the mid 1860s to the late 1890's.

The focus of the game isn't the historical elements. It's simply a game with its own system meant to entertain on its own. You'll soon find many of those systems are 'gamey' and not really a reflection of anything that would have occured in real life.
Hexagoros Oct 29, 2019 @ 6:57pm 
Originally posted by Natalino:
To answer your question, this is a decision made by the dev team. Not due to the historical accuracy part.

I'm disappointed there won't be a female character. Much less interested in the game now, honestly.

Originally posted by Jaxon108:
The game is made by 4 people. Would you rather have them work on boob psychics or the core gameplay :steamfacepalm:

Do you want an honest answer?
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izotron Oct 30, 2019 @ 4:24pm 
who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cares?
Flamekeeper Nov 2, 2019 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by LadyRayneCloud:
Is this a personal decision? Because if it's a "Historical" one, you'd be entirely inaccurate.

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/02/24/notable-important-native-american-warrior-women-of-the-19th-century/

* Buffalo Calf Road Woman
* Dahteste
* Lozen
* Woman Chief (Pine Leaf)
* Running Eagle
* Awashonks - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awashonks

Etc

There are plenty of examples of females leading tribes, of them being warriors, and as a Cherokee / Sappony-Sioux Native American, I really have to question your decision making here.

+1



Originally posted by izotron:
who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cares?

We care. it's supposed to be a portrait of historical accuracy to an extent, you're supposed to have women in camps, their's also female cowgirls, point is, WOMEN WAS THERE AND IN CAMPS, and their children, women and men got slaughtered, not just men, also women reproduced to add to the camp.
Flamekeeper Nov 2, 2019 @ 6:39pm 
Originally posted by Jaxon108:
The game is made by 4 people. Would you rather have them work on boob psychics or the core gameplay :steamfacepalm:
boob physics ofc
articulategrunt Nov 4, 2019 @ 8:57am 
Honestly, idiots ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about boob physics. We are not talking about hookers standing outside a saloon with everything hanging and bouncing about we are talking about cowgirls and women on the range. Common attire would easily be a blouse with a sturdy vest over top and maybe even a jacket dang near hiding any curves and preventing bouncing as such things were commonly seen as obscene in many areas. No boob physics involved, just some slight rounding on the chest, reduction of the waist, maybe mild widening of the hips and lengthening of the hair. Relatively easy crap. Then guess what, add a dress and a lot of the leg movement physics become even easier.

Personally I would also love to see native women in camps over a certain size because they would have been there taking care of their men and camp. There were a few who lead or participated on raids but they were a critical part of tribal and warfare dynamics. They were the near essential support role without which the warriors could not wage their resistance. To completely omit them, just feels lacking.
Hexagoros Nov 4, 2019 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by articulategrunt:
Honestly, idiots ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about boob physics. We are not talking about hookers standing outside a saloon with everything hanging and bouncing about we are talking about cowgirls and women on the range. Common attire would easily be a blouse with a sturdy vest over top and maybe even a jacket dang near hiding any curves and preventing bouncing as such things were commonly seen as obscene in many areas. No boob physics involved, just some slight rounding on the chest, reduction of the waist, maybe mild widening of the hips and lengthening of the hair. Relatively easy crap. Then guess what, add a dress and a lot of the leg movement physics become even easier.

Personally I would also love to see native women in camps over a certain size because they would have been there taking care of their men and camp. There were a few who lead or participated on raids but they were a critical part of tribal and warfare dynamics. They were the near essential support role without which the warriors could not wage their resistance. To completely omit them, just feels lacking.

So when people do 'not' want playable female characters, they are sexist/misogynists.

Yet, when they 'do' want playable female characters, they just want boob physics?

Okay then. XD
articulategrunt Nov 4, 2019 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by Hexagoros:
Originally posted by articulategrunt:
Honestly, idiots ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about boob physics. We are not talking about hookers standing outside a saloon with everything hanging and bouncing about we are talking about cowgirls and women on the range. Common attire would easily be a blouse with a sturdy vest over top and maybe even a jacket dang near hiding any curves and preventing bouncing as such things were commonly seen as obscene in many areas. No boob physics involved, just some slight rounding on the chest, reduction of the waist, maybe mild widening of the hips and lengthening of the hair. Relatively easy crap. Then guess what, add a dress and a lot of the leg movement physics become even easier.

Personally I would also love to see native women in camps over a certain size because they would have been there taking care of their men and camp. There were a few who lead or participated on raids but they were a critical part of tribal and warfare dynamics. They were the near essential support role without which the warriors could not wage their resistance. To completely omit them, just feels lacking.

So when people do 'not' want playable female characters, they are sexist/misogynists.

Yet, when they 'do' want playable female characters, they just want boob physics?

Okay then. XD

Not what I, I, was saying at all. Which if you had looked at my other comments in the thread at all you would have known but may have and just not given a dump about because it did not fit the narrative you are trying to push. Female or male playable chief, cool either way and understandable to not have considering it is made by 4 people. Complete lack of females in the game at all, disappointing. Heck, we can't even alter the look of our character/chief.
I would love for it to be historical, but the women would not be riding around fighting, they'd be making fires, food, working hides, gathering berries and nuts, taking down the tipis and setting them back up. If you think differently I 100% promise you I can prove your misconceptions wrong. These peoples were paleolithic nomadic hunter gatherers, women weren't even allowed in a tipi when the men were smoking and passing the pipe, none were consulted for tribal or band level decisions. The women were just as important as the men, but in entirely different ways. Women got up early every morning and got fresh water and started the fires as the men slept, if there was nothing going on. There is almost nothing about this game even remotely historically accurate, and the game is cool, but would be far more dynamic and interesting and 'hardcore' as Gamelabs likes to call their games, if it was historical.
Just be a male warrior and enjoy it. Nobody cried when Tomb Raider was the only halfway open world game for years and years and was female, or when GTA only offered a black character. Just play.
I really, really wish they would add women and children accurately, that is the one big handicap that made it so much more difficult for the native bands fighting the government, they had to protect their women, children and domestic needs at all times, they were vulnerable at all times.And there were no boobs showing, native women dressed very conservatively, they covered nearly everything all the time. You know nothing Jon Snow, nothing at all.
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There were a handful of isolated incidents of single women riding along on a horse raiding party or getting close to combat to watch and hold horses etc. One Cheyenne woman rode onto the battlefield at the Rosebud and saved her brother, helping him up on her horse and rode him out of there. There were no female warrior societies, but there were female quilling societies, the Cheyenne one being invite only and hard to get into.
The women among the Lakota, Cheyenne and Arapaho did the mutilations that happened after big raids or battles, they came up after the enemy was all dead or driven away and cut off genitals and other things like that. You know nothing.
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