Can we get an update to the Early Access information on the Store Page?

[Bootay]

Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“We expect the Early Access to last at least a year. While we have ideas for what needs to be done before the full release (see below), players’ feedback affects that and we’re ready to put in additional time.”

Now that it's going on two years, can we get a better idea of how much longer Early Access is expected to last? Instead of 'at least a year', can potential customers and actual customers get a real estimate on approximately how much longer the game is going to be baking?

[Schmurfy]

The game looks really interesting but I am not being it until it is done and would love to have an answer too, there are too many games which never left early access and live there permanently.

[Wolfman]

EA means here, that fundamental game mechanics are still subject to change and that major additions are still coming down the road and where it is unclear in what direction it will go. It's not EA in terms of bugs or technical issues. Maybe it's more like a live service game rather than EA.

[Schmurfy]

it does not matter what kind of EA, at some time we need to release your game.
There are great examples like Death Cell continuously improving after release but the game is bug free and rock solid.
From what I have seen there are still features missing in timberborn as well as bugs and that's my deal breaker.

[Wolfman]

The only 'bugs' I've experienced so far is that mods break the game after a major update. Usually, mods need an update, too, before they work again. But that is not a bug, that's because Steam Workshop is not yet supported. Besides that, there are no bugs as far as I can tell.

[Bootay]

Originally posted by Wolfman:

The only 'bugs' I've experienced so far is that mods break the game after a major update. Usually, mods need an update, too, before they work again. But that is not a bug, that's because Steam Workshop is not yet supported. Besides that, there are no bugs as far as I can tell.

Then maybe it's time to update the STORE PAGE to say 'We are almost done and will have a complete product in approximately 6 months'

[Wolfman]

Originally posted by Booyah:

Originally posted by Wolfman:

The only 'bugs' I've experienced so far is that mods break the game after a major update. Usually, mods need an update, too, before they work again. But that is not a bug, that's because Steam Workshop is not yet supported. Besides that, there are no bugs as far as I can tell.

Then maybe it's time to update the STORE PAGE to say 'We are almost done and will have a complete product in approximately 6 months'

Yeah maybe.

There was a major change in game mechanics recently, that had a fundamental effect on the game and how it works. I could imagine that they think about to fix all conceptual issues regarding the game mechanics that might have been in the game from the beginning but now it's clear that it should be changed before leaving EA. They have changed the storage system and you'll find many discussions on that matter here in the forum. Maybe there are big changes coming down the road in other parts of the game, too. Maybe how water works, I think they didn't touch it since day one and that could also be a major change in game mechanics that should be done during EA.

[Schmurfy]

looks like I will wait for the game to be complete but thanks for the info, at least I have a better idea where they are currently.

[Wolfman]

But I agree, a road map would be nice, though.

[stonelock99]

I am playing on easy mode, have almost built out the largest map, and have 3000 beavers. The game tends to crash without saving at least once a week. I lost two hours of work today having to do over things that I did but it didn't save.

[stonelock99]

To be clear, it tends to crash at least once a week. Obviously I save more often than once a week.

[Alcator]

Originally posted by Booyah:

Then maybe it's time to update the STORE PAGE to say 'We are almost done and will have a complete product in approximately 6 months'

Oh, I love football. It's hilarious watching 40.000 unemployed losers scream at 22 millionaires on the field: "Go, go! Work harder!"

/s

[Bootay]

Originally posted by Alcator:

Oh, I love football. It's hilarious watching 40.000 unemployed losers scream at 22 millionaires on the field: "Go, go! Work harder!"

/s

Should store pages have accurate information on the product for sale? Or should sellers be able to leave up outdated, incorrect information?

[Alcator]

Originally posted by Booyah:

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Should store pages have accurate information on the product for sale? Or should sellers be able to leave up outdated, incorrect information?

I've just re-read it, and there doesn't seem to be any outdated or incorrect information in the Early Access 'questions-and-answers' text.
If you believe there are, quote them.

[Bootay]

I already did. The question 'Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?' was not answered correctly, since no approximate amount of time was provided.

Also, the response given is outdated now. The original answer of 'at least a year' provides no actual information since the game's Early Access period has lasted beyond this original response. Previous customers who purchased already now have no idea what to expect, and new customers seeing 'will be in early access for at least a year' have no way of knowing if that's newly updated information, or information that was provided at the beginning of Early Access (which it was)

[Bootay]

Originally posted by Alcator:

Originally posted by Booyah:

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Should store pages have accurate information on the product for sale? Or should sellers be able to leave up outdated, incorrect information?

I've just re-read it, and there doesn't seem to be any outdated or incorrect information in the Early Access 'questions-and-answers' text.
If you believe there are, quote them.

Did you miss the part where I quoted it in the post that we're having this conversation on and in the Early Access section?