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Elsword
GIB OFFERINGS 2013年2月19日 3時34分
Post here if you want the IP block gone
As stated, we need to correct this issue before it Greenlits.
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Ingeniosi 2013年2月23日 19時38分 
Vote up!)
Aww Yiss 2013年2月25日 19時15分 
Ive been gone longer than i thought o.o; unless its just something i never knew about :o
LemonLime 2013年3月3日 2時15分 
This is na/oceania version..... it's been mentioned more than enough already. Obtain the rights for whatever the region yourself and give it to KC if you don't want the ip blocks.
Luke0090 2013年3月14日 11時03分 
It's easy enough to say "it's your problem, you fix it" Lemon, but the fact is it is the publisher's job to cater to its customers, they aren't going to simply throw money at them now are they. Otherwise, why would somebody vote they would play it, when they can't?
LemonLime 2013年3月14日 18時48分 
They never said it's the global version, I don't see why they need to carter to a global audience when they never intended to. It's like telling a ice cream shop to sell beef because you need it.
[VIP]saxxy_saxxo[MY] 2013年3月21日 14時37分 
many game on steam are global.. so if this game still will have ip block event in steam.. then no need to put it on steam.. just do what ever they are doing now.. zzz
GIB OFFERINGS 2013年3月21日 14時40分 
LemonLime の投稿を引用:
This is na/oceania version..... it's been mentioned more than enough already. Obtain the rights for whatever the region yourself and give it to KC if you don't want the ip blocks.
They cited that as an excuse but they have all the power to purchase Global rights, they're just lazy and don't want to risk losing money. There has been NO real English version for Europe and rest of the world ever since they quoted some crappy German site as a possible purchaser.

Mabinogi used to have the same deal going until European server opened then died years later, we used to be able to play in Beta, now they reopened to us and they have more activity/purchasers ratio than ever before, it's been a fun ride. There is no reason to disallow at least 1/5 of the missing countries in this version.

It's about time they remove this embarrasingly dumb IP block.
LemonLime 2013年3月21日 17時22分 
Except nexon owns all the rights to mabi...... they can do whatever they want with the game they have all the rights to right from the start.
KC on the other hand can't, it's not just a simple issue of money. It's more complicated to obtain global publishing rights when many other regions already have other publishers.
GIB OFFERINGS 2013年3月21日 19時09分 
lol, you crazy? Nexon didn't do Mabinogi, Devcat did.

They didn't even globalize DFO for the same reason, the rights rest with Neople, not Nexon.
Christopher808 2013年3月21日 22時04分 
What you fail to realize is that all of this costs money, the servers, the rights, localization, etc, much more than their small team can afford. You bring up Nexon like KC has the funding and the player base to match it which is false. Like LemonLime KC never said this is global version, and yes Steam maybe a global platform but that doesn’t apply to MMOs only the regular games you see on the store page.

Keep in mind that this is p2p or Peer to Peer which already makes it hard for some people to play in the NA/Oceania region so think what would happen if this game was global, or no IP block.
GIB OFFERINGS 2013年3月22日 0時14分 
ChristopherASM の投稿を引用:
What you fail to realize is that all of this costs money, the servers, the rights, localization, etc, much more than their small team can afford. You bring up Nexon like KC has the funding and the player base to match it which is false. Like LemonLime KC never said this is global version, and yes Steam maybe a global platform but that doesn’t apply to MMOs only the regular games you see on the store page.
I've never said this was, and had to be a Global version. I said they could just open anytime if they wanted to. It's more like they refuse to do so because they don't want to risk losing money even though they already have a ton and the mere fact that an unknown company like KC managed to get the license for Elsword means they have, or had money at a time.

Opening Mabinogi to everyone actually helped their funds by the way. They had more purchases than ever before and everyone lived happy.

ChristopherASM の投稿を引用:
Keep in mind that this is p2p or Peer to Peer which already makes it hard for some people to play in the NA/Oceania region so think what would happen if this game was global, or no IP block.
This is the stupid ♥♥♥♥ you people keep bringing into as an excuse to not pay.

Again, let's look at Mabinogi. It uses p2p in parties and it works fantastic, even though the game is a skill mashfest, way more demanding in numeric input than Elsword.

I've played p2p services like GGPO, Supercade...etc...where with my good connection I get to play with my NA, South America and Hawaii friends with no noticeable delays.


If you're so afraid of change and popularity, just open different regional Servers for those who want to head in different ways. It worked for Mabinogi and we're all in the new Servers.
LemonLime 2013年3月22日 5時06分 
Poorman's unusual の投稿を引用:
lol, you crazy? Nexon didn't do Mabinogi, Devcat did.

They didn't even globalize DFO for the same reason, the rights rest with Neople, not Nexon.

Considering nexon is the only host for all versions of mabi they do literally own all the hosting rights to it.

I see that you are already have the idea of how KC is not getting global hosting right because it's afraid of loosing money and don't seem like you'll accept much more other wise so I'll just shrug and get off the wagon here.

Just like to point out that lvlupgames owns elsword BR hosting rights and that's not gonna be a easy matter for anyone seeking the global hosting rights.
Christopher808 2013年3月22日 10時22分 
First all stop bringing up Mabinogi because that doesn’t apply here. P2p maybe fine for YOU, but not for everyone else. None of those p2p services you used matter, because they aren’t KC, they don’t use KC servers, this isn’t about them this is about KC. I never said I was afraid of change and popularity you did. It would great for KC to remove the IP block, it’s not going to happen as KC isn’t a Nexon, Arena Net, nor Blizzard, they don’t have that kind of money.
GIB OFFERINGS 2013年3月22日 12時02分 
Nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about what you think, most of what you say is fallacies, I'm referring to KC when it comes to popularity and risks of opening.

I'd like to see you justify not opening Elsword when Mabinogi basically had the same servers for ages and they've had lag attacks when Global started, they were fixed and nothing of value was lost.

All in all, it'd be more of a problem to adquire the rights for Global opening from KoG/Nexon. Then again, back when KC opened, it wasn't even part of Nexon except in Japan.
Connor Kenway 2013年3月23日 6時52分 
NO IP BLOCK!!!!!! NEVER IP BLOCK
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