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Crimsonland
Martoon 14 nov 2012 à 15h38
Weapon balancing
In addition to making the blow torch useful, I'd like to see more weapon balancing overall. It seemed like the less interesting weapons like the plasma shotgun were the most effective, while the more interesting ones like the rocket launcher and ion gun weren't as effective. So high score chasing meant getting something like the plasma shotgun and keeping it through the game.

Maybe if there were an incentive to switch weapons more? Like if the weapon you were using very gradually became weaker, but then gradually ramped up again over time if you used other weapons (so there was a benefit to rotating between a variety of weapons).
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10tons  [développeur] 15 nov 2012 à 0h57 
Overall weapon balancing is definitely doable. It'll probably be impossible to get all the weapons exactly equal for high scores, and it has crossed our minds that maybe each weapon should get a leaderboard of their own. We of course wouldn't dump the old game modes tough.

First things first though; let's get the game greenlit and on Steam!
[MM] WMan22 15 nov 2012 à 2h59 
Some subtle weapon balance tweaks for the weapons he listed sound nice i guess, but not what he said about "Like if the weapon you were using very gradually became weaker, but then gradually ramped up again over time if you used other weapons (so there was a benefit to rotating between a variety of weapons)." What if i just want to use the jackhammer or shotgun version of the gauss gun the whole game? I'd hate to be penalized in any way for having a favorite weapon that i don't want to switch from, and i don't want to have to wait for a chance of getting a random perk that allows me to tell the game that "No, i do not want these guns to degrade. Let me keep using them with classic weapon balancing please."

It may be just me, but i like the weapons the way they already are, to be honest.
Spydrebyte 15 nov 2012 à 22h06 
Call me stupid but id love to dual wield pistols and uzi's :D ... just a random note :)
10tons  [développeur] 18 nov 2012 à 23h35 
Dual wield is definitely on the wishlist for a possible Crimsonland 2, and I guess it'd be natural to look into it as an update to Crimsonland. It's just one of those inherently cool things.
omeg 20 nov 2012 à 8h07 
Yeah, plasma shotgun was the best thing for racking up high scores, but that's because in survival mode you had fire bullets constantly after some time. Then the moment you ran out of powerups you were overwhelmed. Would be nice if powerups affected some of the less favourite weapons in a better way.
DeeDoubleU 28 nov 2012 à 3h31 
Possible Crimsonland 2?
People at your forums still waiting for it. Can you share more info or you tied by nda?
Anarchy is the only Freedom 16 déc 2012 à 23h48 
Plasma shotgun was great but for survival mode the Jackhammer could be just as good if not better. Fire bullets + super high rate of fire = dead monsters.

The game really became about timing your powerups. A shield picked up to soon would ruin you.
Lucas 117 18 déc 2012 à 2h51 
Whatever you do, please don't make the game more "accessible". Much of Crimsonland's charm (in my own humble opinion) comes from its difficulty, and the fact that it doesn't hold your hand.

And not that it really needs to -- it's a pretty self-explanatory game. Shoot stuff and don't die.
Martoon 18 déc 2012 à 9h47 
Lucas 117 a écrit :
and don't die.
Dammit, I knew there was something I was doing wrong.
Irobeth 19 déc 2012 à 14h38 
Only viable weapons are Jackhammer/Gauss Shotgun and that's a technical limitation.

If the size of the bullet array were bigger, Plasma Shotgun would outclass both
pavelsavilov 16 juil 2013 à 15h26 
Plasma Shotgun + Jackhammer is the best! 27kk in survival mode =)
OttoNL 17 nov 2013 à 12h42 
Imo the weapons are almost perfect as they are. I loved all ion weapons personally, they kicked ♥♥♥ but the slower ion rifles could have a sliightly higher rate of fire though. So I would prefer as little changes as possible.
But I wouldn't mind having the blowtorch removed personally as the flamethrower is basically the same thing and isn't even all that usefull as reloading is a dangerous situation with all the monsters so near to you.
MaxLightningUK 18 nov 2013 à 7h44 
An upgrade system could also be considered. Upgrades are the main hook in most games anyway because the player wants to see what's possible. A bit of creativity with this aspect could take you a long way.
OttoNL 5 jan à 10h02 
Upgrades are already possible though the perk system. I'm not sure but I think you lose the +25% clip size bonus when you pick up a new gun for instance.

Some weapons will stay a bit crummy though, but if every weapon would be perfect you wouldn't be happy when a plasma shotgun drops.
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