I've had an idea for a spy knife like this:

+Causes bleed on target for 5 sec
+10% damage

-Cannot backstab
-10% cloak

It's like a less stealthy spah.

How about this... I like some of Cloud Strife's ideas:

+Causes beed on target for 5 sec (not on backstab)
+20% damage (not on backstab)

-50% cloak drain speed
-30% health on wearer

Maybe:
+50% Damage
+Bleed Effect for 5 seconds

- Can not backstab
-25 HP

You are marked for death while this weapon is active
-50% Damage Penalty (Only if its not a backstab)
-20% Firing Speed
-99% Max health
+Infinite Cloak

Originally posted by L'il SMO (Hoovy):

You are marked for death while this weapon is active
-50% Damage Penalty (Only if its not a backstab)
-20% Firing Speed
-99% Max health
+Infinite Cloak

∙_∙ you thought way too hard on this one. Infinite cloak isnt worth that much unless you have the dead ringer with you, -99% max health? Are you crazy? -20 firing speed well i can actually agree with that one, and -50 damage + marked for death? NO. If those were the stats on this wep if it was added before all these crazy buffs and nerfs, it would get like 20 buffs. Besides, Valve decides stats, not the people.

No backstab = Bullsh*t
Think better people.

um im not sure whther this is a good idea but it would encorage a more open spy tactics and would make playing spy more of a team experience

+75 health
-backstabs do no damage
+backstabbed opponents are frozen for 2 seconds
+backstabbed opponents are marked for death for 2 seconds
+ this weapon crits when it would normally minicrit

the idea being that although you dont do damage on a back stab 2 seconds of crits would be enough to kill the guy you just backstabbed, and the +75 health lets you get out of sticky stiuations without the need for dead ringer. but would be pretty bad on public servers cause you cant rely on your team mates to kill the heavy you just froze whilst you run away from the rest of his team.

+On kill plus 40 health
+30% damage increase
-Missing marks you for death
-60% slower weapon switch

Originally posted by Triforcesplash, idiot on wheels:

um im not sure whther this is a good idea but it would encorage a more open spy tactics and would make playing spy more of a team experience

+75 health
-backstabs do no damage
+backstabbed opponents are frozen for 2 seconds
+backstabbed opponents are marked for death for 2 seconds
+ this weapon crits when it would normally minicrit

the idea being that although you dont do damage on a back stab 2 seconds of crits would be enough to kill the guy you just backstabbed, and the +75 health lets you get out of sticky stiuations without the need for dead ringer. but would be pretty bad on public servers cause you cant rely on your team mates to kill the heavy you just froze whilst you run away from the rest of his team.

It would be op on pubs. Dead Rigner+ This + L'Etranger= DR spam with extra 75 health and Bushwacka style crits. Pure ownage.

Originally posted by Hunter:

No backstab = Bullsh*t
Think better people.

You're obviously retarded.
No backstabs because it's a reference to Pshyco.
Pshyco was never stealthy.
Idiot.

Originally posted by Wheat:

Originally posted by Hunter:

No backstab = Bullsh*t
Think better people.

You're obviously retarded.
No backstabs because it's a reference to Pshyco.
Pshyco was never stealthy.
Idiot.

I am talking game-wise. Also, this is a stat discussion. It would be a nice reference, but Valve has to think about balancing and no backstabs = UP as ♥♥♥♥.

Most likely a reskin >:3 . If it WAS a new item (and if valve actually adds it in) then:

+20% attacking speed
+50% afterburn resistance

-On kill: Wearer cannot activate cloak (including deadringer) for 3 seconds.

This knife will build up a "Confidence meter" with kills. When the meter is fully charged, you can activate it (mouse 3) and increase movement speed by 25% for 6 seconds. Explosion and bullet resistancee is reduced by 75% for 3 seconds.

no backstab = no spy

Originally posted by Wilson Percival Higgsbury:

+35% Damage
When A Succeful Backstab 10 second Of Mini-Crits
On Miss Hit Your Self Bleeding For 5 Seconds
On SuccesFul Hit Enemy Bleeds For 5 Seconds
-5% Maximus Health

These are the best stats.

Would be like a your eteneral reward

cannot disguse

On backstab disguse

Silent killer

start with 95% cloak

Once backstabbed enemy give 125% cloak

+10% fire damage on self.