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GunZ 2: The Second Duel
xX_l0ngRaNgeSuporZXX_ 2013년 6월 27일 오후 4시 20분
K Style is gone, oh no!
Let's stop talking about the lack of K-Style. This is literally the BEST thing that could happen for GunZ.

Let's break this down...

1. The population is small, the population is full of trolls and is ego infested. New players aren't going to play a game where they are 6 years behind in skill development from the rest of the tiny community who get a high off killing new players and ruining their experience. Most of you are annoying in the first place so I doubt new players would want to play catch-up just to be part of your tight knit little community.

2. GunZ 1 rewarded spammability and different leading (worst thing ever to have in a shooting game when there are 16 people in a room and none of them have the same ping aka same distance to lead).

3. People complain about gunz 2 being restricted and dumbed down due to there not being any K-Style. GunZ 1 consists of a community of people who play with ONE weapon for the most part. Shotguns... I can't express my joy at finally having a lot of weapons that are viable other than shotguns. (Go ahead and name something else potentially vialbe, woah, out of every weapon the game could possibly make 99% of players equip 2 of the same weapon, how fun fighting against that, and nothing but that for 7 years.)

4. GunZ 2 rewards aim and not leading with spam.

5. More classes, more weapons, more versatility, more options, more is good. Let's try to get away from everyone using one weapon.

6. And finally, let's face it, those of you who think K-Style is necessary for GunZ to be GunZ... You were all terrible anyway, most of the community cannot aim, they couldn't lead. Sure 99.99% of you got good at learning how to spam moves that you missed with 9/10 times, or just BARELY clip someone slowly chipping them to death with shotguns. You weren't skilled, you just tediously learned to do moves you couldnt even aim with. Almost all the community was horrible at both gunning and gladiator, and it's nice that they're releasing the game on a more even playing field where actual aim and some creativity will go a lot father than RS with two shotguns.

Edit: Hopefully we can gets tens of thousands of new players and create a new metagame on GunZ 2 rather than have the 1-2 thousand players complaining that their training in the mountains all these years learning K-Style moves mean nothing now. REMEMBER, you were all bad anyway and stroking your own egos for all these years was nothing short of extremely annoying. If you really think you're good gamers then go ahead and become the best at GunZ 2, stop dwelling on the past.
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Blubber 2013년 6월 27일 오후 4시 30분 
There are open threads on the matter that are still on the front page. Read them, they contain very insightful posts.

It's not a for or against issue, it's about how it's going to be done in essence.

Seriously, go see the threads.
Emonium 2013년 6월 27일 오후 4시 43분 
Blubber님이 먼저 게시:
There are open threads on the matter that are still on the front page. Read them, they contain very insightful posts.

It's not a for or against issue, it's about how it's going to be done in essence.

Seriously, go see the threads.
Ikr, what a waste of time lol.

I'd totally read this but I feel like it's just the same wall of text whether it's defending kstyle or telling people to stop complaining about it being removed
Shay 2013년 6월 27일 오후 6시 10분 
This team님이 먼저 게시:
Let's stop talking about the lack of K-Style. This is literally the BEST thing that could happen for GunZ.

Let's break this down...

1. The population is small, the population is full of trolls and is ego infested. New players aren't going to play a game where they are 6 years behind in skill development from the rest of the tiny community who gets a high off killing new players and ruining their experience. Most of you are annoying in the first place so I doubt new players would want to play catch-up just to be part of your tight knit little community.

2. GunZ 1 rewarded spammability and different leading (worst thing ever to have in a shooting game when there are 16 people in a room and none of them have the same ping aka same distance to lead).

3. People complain about gunz 2 being restricted and dumbed down due to there not being any K-Style. GunZ 1 consists of a community of people who play with ONE weapon for the most part. Shotguns... I can't express my joy at finally having a lot of weapons that are viable other than shotguns. (Go ahead and name something else potentially vialbe, woah, out of every weapon the game could possibly make 99% of players equip 2 of the same weapon, how fun fighting against that, and nothing but that for 7 years.)

4. GunZ 2 rewards aim and not leading with spam.

5. More classes, more weapons, more versatility, more options, more is good. Let's try to get away from everyone using one weapon.

6. And finally, let's face it, those of you who think K-Style is necessary for GunZ to be GunZ... You were all terrible anyway, most of the community cannot aim, they couldn't lead. Sure 99.99% of you got good at learning how to spam moves that you missed with 9/10 times, or just BARELY clip someone slowly chipping them to death with shotguns. You weren't skilled, you just tediously learned to do moves you couldnt even aim with. Almost all the community was horrible at both gunning and gladiator, and it's nice that they're releasing the game on a more even playing field where actual aim and some creativity will go a lot father than RS with two shotguns.

Edit: Hopefully we can gets tens of thousands of new players and create a new metagame on GunZ 2 rather than have the 1-2 thousand players complaining that their training in the mountains all these years learning K-Style moves mean nothing now. REMEMBER, you were all bad anyway and stroking your own egos for all these years was nothing short of extremely annoying. If you really think you're good gamers then go ahead and become the best at GunZ 2, stop dwelling on the past.
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Rainy 2013년 6월 27일 오후 6시 11분 
Well agree with you to a certain extent, except GunZ Gladiator took no skill... this is down right Preposterous!
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Shay 2013년 6월 27일 오후 7시 38분 
Dreadful // Ldr님이 먼저 게시:
Well agree with you to a certain extent, except GunZ Gladiator took no skill... this is down right Preposterous!
I really hope you're joking seeing as gladiator took a lot more skill than gunning, coming from a gunner. Takes no time to be able to spam two shotguns as well as the "top players."
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xX_l0ngRaNgeSuporZXX_ 2013년 6월 27일 오후 9시 27분 
Blubber님이 먼저 게시:
There are open threads on the matter that are still on the front page. Read them, they contain very insightful posts.

It's not a for or against issue, it's about how it's going to be done in essence.

Seriously, go see the threads.

My posts are the only insightful ones, thanks for your contribution!

Idiot.
xX_l0ngRaNgeSuporZXX_ 2013년 6월 27일 오후 9시 35분 
Emonium님이 먼저 게시:
Ikr, what a waste of time lol.

I'd totally read this but I feel like it's just the same wall of text whether it's defending kstyle or telling people to stop complaining about it being removed

It's actually about GunZ 1 and GunZ 2 comparisons in general.
Emonium 2013년 6월 27일 오후 11시 44분 
This team님이 먼저 게시:
Emonium님이 먼저 게시:
Ikr, what a waste of time lol.

I'd totally read this but I feel like it's just the same wall of text whether it's defending kstyle or telling people to stop complaining about it being removed

It's actually about GunZ 1 and GunZ 2 comparisons in general.
Yeah its been done a couple dozen times here. I'm sure it was nice
[G4B2S]Fate <Mike> 2013년 6월 28일 오전 4시 24분 
The thing is, k-style was emergent game play. You can say shotguns were the only viable weapon, but they weren't. You could kite and hit with rockets, you could aim and use a rifle. "Zomg you can't aim!!!1111one" is anecdotal at best, I could aim. Clipping someone at a distance with a shotgun? That's what shotguns do at a distance.

Frankly, GunZ would have been boring and probably not popular without animation cancelling.
JinNJuice 2013년 6월 28일 오후 1시 11분 
So your other choice of weapons are the rocket launchers? What about GUNS? Oh my god. Your post is full of fail. So obvious, that I have to be captain obvious now.

User a single pistol with and against K-Style. See how that works out then. With everyone dashing at you already, they would make shotguns the more efficient weapon at an instant, despite any other weapon you choose.
xX_l0ngRaNgeSuporZXX_ 2013년 6월 28일 오후 4시 37분 
Fate <Mike>님이 먼저 게시:
The thing is, k-style was emergent game play. You can say shotguns were the only viable weapon, but they weren't. You could kite and hit with rockets, you could aim and use a rifle. "Zomg you can't aim!!!1111one" is anecdotal at best, I could aim. Clipping someone at a distance with a shotgun? That's what shotguns do at a distance.

Frankly, GunZ would have been boring and probably not popular without animation cancelling.

Yeah but see, you've never beaten an actual good player in your life. And that last part of your comment is as dumb as you are. I have to go but I will give you a more detailed answer as to why you're a ♥♥♥♥♥ when I come back.
Paraskevi 2013년 6월 28일 오후 10시 06분 
For Gunz, animation cancelling is essential, but K-style is just ridiculous.
The only reason it's around is simply because the dev's couldn't patch it
I will miss K-style. but only to a certain extent.
The one reason I got bored of Gunz and K-style is the redudancy.
Any room you go into will have people flying around spamming shotguns( or rockets) and flying around the freakin map, you can't even survive 20 seconds without using K-style yourself.
(Correct me if I am wrong, I haven't played Gunz for 7yrs + it was in KR server)
It was as if the only right way to play Gunz was k-styling.

So, I welcome this new approach and actual patching of K-style :P
GeD 2013년 6월 29일 오전 9시 41분 
I played gunz for over 3 years (with spaces inbetween) and of course kstyle was ridiculous but its what made the game, that is that wall canceling made the game, you wouldnt of had freedom without knowing how to do that first. Nearly all of the Kstylers did what they did cause they thought it was cool & the only way to play and because of such they were stupid, easy to beat with any weapon you chose. I started out using what I thought was cool: a sword, dual pistols & a rifle (this was dual mode) but the main weapons that got me to the (i think) 700's on leaderboard was a knife, an LMG and whatever i felt like at the time, sometimes another LMG. I just wanted to give some of my experience with the game and if theres anything to be kept from Kstyle its the freedom of climbing the walls and from what I've seen its still there. Gunz 2 looks liiiike the best.
Fox "N" Stuff 2013년 6월 30일 오전 11시 26분 
1. The population small? I believe there is private servers out there with about 2k people on right now and have like 4 servers, all being close, if not, maxed out by players, of all having anti-lead and such and all doing the same thing, K~Styling. The game, GunZ 2, as stated by maiet, was BASED off the IDEA of K~Styling. K~Styling, whether you like it or not, made gunz 1 what it is, otherwise it would of been a crappy game. and 6 years? COME ON be real, ANYONE can pick up K~Styling, you just need the drive to want to do it, so catching up is definitely NOT an issue.

2. This was implemented in private servers such as having anti-lead, im sure Maiet has, and DID put in some sort of system to get rid of that issue. So leading due to ping should not be an issue at all anymore.

3. GunZ 2 right now, from what I see through the testing of the Private Server in a few discussion pages before, that Assassins are OPed, which was never in GunZ 1, everyone was the same, that was great, now that there is 3 classes; not so much. Honestly, who has a problem with shot guns? I'm happier now that Sniper Rifles are in-game but what is wrong with shot guns? I rather have shot guns then a stupid ♥♥♥♥ing assualt rifle running around the map spraying like a ♥♥♥♥♥ going TEE HEE PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW DIE. And something that can be more valuable than the shot gun? Rocket Launchers, My friends hate it when I k~style with two rockets.

4. Rewards aim? Aim was more forgiving in GunZ 1, if you was near the hit box, it hit...sometimes.. GunZ 2, you got to be spot on, or it didn't happen. Thus, I think GunZ 1 is better for that for the new players that you seem to care oh so much about. And again with leading, You should just plaster say HEY NO K~STYLE CUZ WE NO WANT LEAD! Even though it's already fixed.

5. More is good? Not when the other classes can be OPed to ♥♥♥♥ and you can't do a damn ♥♥♥♥ing thing about it.

6. HAHAHAHAHAHAAH OH MY GOD YOU ARE A ♥♥♥♥ING JOKE!!!! Okay, so your saying 99.999% of the community who K~Style, which im sure you did too, that or you just sucked so much that you didn't know HOW to K~Style and now your on a vendetta against everyone who did, suck? You have to be kidding me right? They are STYLES, and the fact of the matter is, YOU HAVE TO DO THEM, you can't just press a button and say OKAY YEAH BUTTERFLY NOW. No, there is Combination and speed to do the moves. What you saying is basically is that, because You don't k~style and all you do is press left click on the mouse, you are better than every single person who played GunZ 1 who K~styled? You are stupid. And I can go a hole match without using shotguns in a Sword & Gun match and STILL come out number one, so if you want to blame any weapon, blame the sword. And I know plenty of people out there who K~Style with Pistols instead of shot guns. Let's blame it on the pistols too -.-. God you are stupid.


You need to get over yourself and think about how if K~Style didn't exist in the first place, GunZ 2 wouldn't have ANY of this ♥♥♥♥ thought about right now. If K~Style didn't exsist, GunZ 1 would of been slow as ♥♥♥♥. No quick slashing with shift and left clicking, no butterflies, no instant falls *which is pretty much what GunZ 2 flips are now except they linger now to have the same effect as Instant-fall* Just people walking around the map, or dodging all the time spraying their machine guns and occasionally doing the HUHHHH HAAAA WAHHHHHHH with their swords cuz thats the only ♥♥♥♥ they could do otherwise "it's considered a glitch cuz the devs never intended it to be that wayyyy!!!!" Boo ♥♥♥♥ity hooo


Personally in my opinion, if gunz 2 doesn't have K~Styling or played "well" like GunZ 1 was, without your ♥♥♥♥ing leading ♥♥♥♥♥♥ you where saying before, GunZ 1 will always remain a better game and will live in the lives of Private Servers which is JUST fine now cuz they are all C#ed and they can do w.e the ♥♥♥♥ they want now to make the game even more fun and interesting to players.
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Shay 2013년 6월 30일 오후 12시 00분 
Fox "N" Stuff님이 먼저 게시:
1. The population small? I believe there is private servers out there with about 2k people on right now and have like 4 servers, all being close, if not, maxed out by players, of all having anti-lead and such and all doing the same thing, K~Styling. The game, GunZ 2, as stated by maiet, was BASED off the IDEA of K~Styling. K~Styling, whether you like it or not, made gunz 1 what it is, otherwise it would of been a crappy game. and 6 years? COME ON be real, ANYONE can pick up K~Styling, you just need the drive to want to do it, so catching up is definitely NOT an issue.

2. This was implemented in private servers such as having anti-lead, im sure Maiet has, and DID put in some sort of system to get rid of that issue. So leading due to ping should not be an issue at all anymore.

3. GunZ 2 right now, from what I see through the testing of the Private Server in a few discussion pages before, that Assassins are OPed, which was never in GunZ 1, everyone was the same, that was great, now that there is 3 classes; not so much. Honestly, who has a problem with shot guns? I'm happier now that Sniper Rifles are in-game but what is wrong with shot guns? I rather have shot guns then a stupid ♥♥♥♥ing assualt rifle running around the map spraying like a ♥♥♥♥♥ going TEE HEE PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW DIE. And something that can be more valuable than the shot gun? Rocket Launchers, My friends hate it when I k~style with two rockets.

4. Rewards aim? Aim was more forgiving in GunZ 1, if you was near the hit box, it hit...sometimes.. GunZ 2, you got to be spot on, or it didn't happen. Thus, I think GunZ 1 is better for that for the new players that you seem to care oh so much about. And again with leading, You should just plaster say HEY NO K~STYLE CUZ WE NO WANT LEAD! Even though it's already fixed.

5. More is good? Not when the other classes can be OPed to ♥♥♥♥ and you can't do a damn ♥♥♥♥ing thing about it.

6. HAHAHAHAHAHAAH OH MY GOD YOU ARE A ♥♥♥♥ING JOKE!!!! Okay, so your saying 99.999% of the community who K~Style, which im sure you did too, that or you just sucked so much that you didn't know HOW to K~Style and now your on a vendetta against everyone who did, suck? You have to be kidding me right? They are STYLES, and the fact of the matter is, YOU HAVE TO DO THEM, you can't just press a button and say OKAY YEAH BUTTERFLY NOW. No, there is Combination and speed to do the moves. What you saying is basically is that, because You don't k~style and all you do is press left click on the mouse, you are better than every single person who played GunZ 1 who K~styled? You are stupid. And I can go a hole match without using shotguns in a Sword & Gun match and STILL come out number one, so if you want to blame any weapon, blame the sword. And I know plenty of people out there who K~Style with Pistols instead of shot guns. Let's blame it on the pistols too -.-. God you are stupid.


You need to get over yourself and think about how if K~Style didn't exist in the first place, GunZ 2 wouldn't have ANY of this ♥♥♥♥ thought about right now. If K~Style didn't exsist, GunZ 1 would of been slow as ♥♥♥♥. No quick slashing with shift and left clicking, no butterflies, no instant falls *which is pretty much what GunZ 2 flips are now except they linger now to have the same effect as Instant-fall* Just people walking around the map, or dodging all the time spraying their machine guns and occasionally doing the HUHHHH HAAAA WAHHHHHHH with their swords cuz thats the only ♥♥♥♥ they could do otherwise "it's considered a glitch cuz the devs never intended it to be that wayyyy!!!!" Boo ♥♥♥♥ity hooo


Personally in my opinion, if gunz 2 doesn't have K~Styling or played "well" like GunZ 1 was, without your ♥♥♥♥ing leading ♥♥♥♥♥♥ you where saying before, GunZ 1 will always remain a better game and will live in the lives of Private Servers which is JUST fine now cuz they are all C#ed and they can do w.e the ♥♥♥♥ they want now to make the game even more fun and interesting to players.

didn't actually read your boring ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but did skim through and notice all your swearing, you are pretty upset aren't you? lmao
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