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GunZ 2: The Second Duel
Elate 7 nov 2013 à 10h52
Don't get your hopes up
So, I got into the beta for EU players.. Suffice to say, it's a mess. Feels like an alpha, the pings are still obscene. There are game breaking imbalances, and the whole thing feels like it's there to milk your money. As a Gunz player, I'm massively disappointed. I'll be keeping an eye on it, since it is 'beta' and some of those issues might be fixed, but some are so deeply woven into the game that it'd be impossible to change them now.

All in all, it's what most of us feared. A shallow cash in that destroys the original feel of Gunz. To give you an idea of some of the biggest imbalances, you can get completely stunlocked by one person, grenade launchers and flamethrowers are so overpowered that they dominate the entire match. Oh, and there's a 'skill' system tied to your level, with unlocks at every 10 levels I think. It's a mess.

EDIT: Before anyone starts spouting that it wasn't meant to be like Gunz, I'm aware. Most people compare it to S4 League, which I loved the hell out of, Gunz 2 doesn't even come close to that.
Dernière modification de Elate; 7 nov 2013 à 10h58
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Emonium 7 nov 2013 à 11h17 
If you played it anything like I did in cb2, you'd probably like it more. Also, US against EU = massive lag. That's not really surprising so you can just cross that out. The cash doesn't do much of anything really, unless they added even more cash items that you can't buy with ingame currency
Razzi 7 nov 2013 à 11h19 
I don't know about you, but other than the issue of stunlocking and rental items, it's everything I dreamed of. An accessible, but stylish TPS that's more about using the enviroment to you advantage rather than seeing who can mash buttons in repeition the most. All they need to do is adress the balance issues, revert dashing back to the way it was in the EU CBT1/TW beta, then introduce a diving/tumbling mechanic (probably will add a class that can do this), and then the game will be near perfect.
Elate 7 nov 2013 à 11h24 
Emonium a écrit :
If you played it anything like I did in cb2, you'd probably like it more. Also, US against EU = massive lag. That's not really surprising so you can just cross that out. The cash doesn't do much of anything really, unless they added even more cash items that you can't buy with ingame currency

No, I'm in the UK, so no dice. The lag was horrible in anything but UK matches. The cash doesn't do much, because there's nothing there yet, but they already have timed items in, and reforging, buying characters etc, the potential to cash cow is there.

Rahzzy a écrit :
I don't know about you, but other than the issue of stunlocking and rental items, it's everything I dreamed of. An accessible, but stylish TPS that's more about using the enviroment to you advantage rather than seeing who can mash buttons in repeition the most. All they need to do is adress the balance issues, revert dashing back to the way it was in the EU CBT1/TW beta, then introduce a diving/tumbling mechanic (probably will add a class that can do this), and then the game will be near perfect.

I wouldn't say perfect, but those changes would make it passable, enjoyable at the very least. As it stands now, the balance issues, and as you pointed out, the dashing make it unpleasant to play. Esspecially the stunlocking.

I guess when I said trying to milk you for cash, I mean the fact that they already have all the systems built into the game. Lets not kid ourselves, Gunz was kinda pay to win, esspecially towards the end, I'm exceedingly worried that Gunz 2 is heading for that, but from the get go. We'll see, you do seem to get a lot of gold per match though, which might balance it out nicely. However, the skill system is ♥♥♥, pure and simple, you're automatically giving anyone with a higher level an advantage, which in competitive arena fighter, is completely unbalanced. The only fix I can think for that, would be limiting skills to PvE only.
Emonium 7 nov 2013 à 11h29 
Idk about you guys, but I didn't have much of a disadvantage at level 10 versus max levels. Using the default Katana as an SA and everything. Any good GunZ player should be able to do that. I can't speak for the other classes really since I haven't played much of them but anyone who learns the shield trooper is unaffected by level. Level doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ really. And there's a way to dash faster so it doesn't feel so stiff. Check this out. Start around 1:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUe51TtqddU
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Elate 7 nov 2013 à 11h44 
Just to add about that lag, it seems the more people join, the higher the pings go.
Edit: Also I was reading it wrong, you get a pathetic amount of gold per match. I was reading the next level rewards.
Dernière modification de Elate; 7 nov 2013 à 11h51
JinNJuice 7 nov 2013 à 21h21 
I've already mentioned it before. I was immensely appalled by the melee mechanics and the balance of the guns in the game. I posted a massive thread of suggestions toward the melee mechanics, and P7S1 has helped me forwarded it directly to MAIET. As for the guns, there are just a few very basic tweaks they can implement to make it surprisingly so much better.
caveman8 8 nov 2013 à 22h05 
Ain't talking about... beta? Do you mean to say, it is like the Diablo 3 launch, or say... WoW?
[ pRiNz + kiM ] 9 nov 2013 à 3h32 
I already know this will be kinda like s4 but ohh well I am still waiting for itxD and you also know that people in s4 don't care about buying stuff as long that they like it and it looks cute even though we already have the same weapon but diff. style.. as long that you start to like the game why not spend some money on it? it is not like they will force you to buy it..
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Elate 9 nov 2013 à 4h46 
kim.moto13 a écrit :
I already know this will be kinda like s4 but ohh well I am still waiting for itxD and you also know that people in s4 don't care about buying stuff as long that they like it and it looks cute even though we already have the same weapon but diff. style.. as long that you start to like the game why not spend some money on it? it is not like they will force you to buy it..

Oh, I wish it were like S4, I adore that game, well, before all the hackers anyway. No, it currently feels like a completely unfinished mess with broken mechanics and insane latency issues (the exact same we saw in the original).



caveman8 a écrit :
Ain't talking about... beta? Do you mean to say, it is like the Diablo 3 launch, or say... WoW?
I mean to say, downgraded Gunz 1 trying to ape S4 without being compotent enough, with a slightly better looking lick of paint.
Ricky Blaze 9 nov 2013 à 18h52 
Was expecting more considering how much time they put into development .-.

Still cant wait till its on steam so i can try for myself.
terrance_brown1990 10 nov 2013 à 15h32 
What website is the gunz 2
[ pRiNz + kiM ] 10 nov 2013 à 18h57 
I also play s4 and I've been there with all those hackers specially when they just release the bomb. But still they also need to make money to keep the game going (GUNZ 2) so why not support them when you really like the game?. I just can't wait to play Gunz 2^^
Elate 10 nov 2013 à 19h09 
kim.moto13 a écrit :
I also play s4 and I've been there with all those hackers specially when they just release the bomb. But still they also need to make money to keep the game going (GUNZ 2) so why not support them when you really like the game?. I just can't wait to play Gunz 2^^

Because I'm not going to support a company that is more interested in my wallet than in making a quality game, frankly, and as I said, the game is ♥♥♥. I don't like it. I loved Gunz 1, and I paid for content on that.
[ pRiNz + kiM ] 10 nov 2013 à 19h50 
lol been there in gunz 1 too before they have ijji I think? been a long time cause I stop playing gunz 1 when they have lots of hackers. but I wish it is fun like s4 league this will take lots of time though cause they are just starting to put this out and they are rushing it so there will be alot of changes^_^
Emonium 10 nov 2013 à 20h09 
kim.moto13 a écrit :
lol been there in gunz 1 too before they have ijji I think? been a long time cause I stop playing gunz 1 when they have lots of hackers. but I wish it is fun like s4 league this will take lots of time though cause they are just starting to put this out and they are rushing it so there will be alot of changes^_^
They're not rushing anything. They're taking their sweet ♥♥♥ time. That's why we haven't heard anything about an NA release in forever
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