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Atmey Dec 6, 2012 @ 12:53am
Sexual content limit?
I searched the forums and have a general idea of "Your game must not contain offensive material"

I am not sure if I can compare our submissions to larger games, but Saints Row has full nudity but with a censor, implied nudity. The Witcher has sex scenes showing topless and backside.

My question is, can we take that limit as a guideline or it would not be acceptable? My thoughts it is like an extra/side content, not a porn game.
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Resolute Dec 6, 2012 @ 1:18am 
Full violence, disemboweling, decapitations, setting things on fire are all socially acceptable to most gamers.

But apparently a set of ♥♥♥♥ starts to frighten some of them (mostly American).

Welcome to the wonderful world of gaming.

Funnily the Germans go the other way, a set of ♥♥♥♥ is ok but as soon as there is red blood it's out.
Atmey Dec 6, 2012 @ 3:16am 
What I am trying to say, should I go ahead and make a game with level of provocative content, or it would be rejected by steam?

I think the parents' opinion outspoken all other gamers, personally I did not meet a fellow gamer offended by these kind of things, sure, maybe not all of them like it, but none offended.
AusSkiller Dec 6, 2012 @ 3:20am 
I think it's more about the relative levels of the sexual content, the games that have sexual content on Steam only have a relatively low amount of it compared to the rest of the game, but a lot of the games Valve are removing from greenlight are predominantly about sex or have a lot of it. GTA IV: LCS got away with uncensored full frontal male nudity (much to my unfortunate surprise, just when I got comfortable that they were going to continue tastefully hiding it BAM! DO NOT WANT! I did have quite a laugh over that though) but a smaller company would probably have trouble doing the same. My thoughts are that as long as it's not there just for the sake of having it, it's a minimal part of the game and you do it appropriately then I'd be very surprised if Valve would block you for it, though you may need to talk with them about it before they let you release it.
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C0untzer0 Dec 6, 2012 @ 3:21am 
If you do, you'll lose a lot of potential customers, run into the legal costs associated with age ratings in different countries, and have more localisation issues. Not saying definitely not to go for it, if it actually fits with the game, but remember it'll cause hassles.
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Skoardy Dec 6, 2012 @ 4:08am 
I suppose you've got to consider what it adds to your game and whether your game depends on it to get noticed. If it does, you've probably got bigger problems.
TOP-Proto - Dominating Studios Dec 6, 2012 @ 5:24am 
I think this is less for moral reasons and more for sales reasons.

The higher your age restriction the less gamers you will have who could buy the game.

Obviously tho games that are like those classic spectrum pron games where you had to waggle the joystick as fast as you could to win though to the next scene which was blatant sex and pornography are a line in the moral sand of valve.

Alot of companies are trying to use shock tactics to get people to buy their games with disembowelment, sexual scenes and graphic violence. Some even use the "banned in X countries" as a selling point. Whilst theirs nothing wrong with that its all about where your own moral compass sits and where valve sits.

I think valve will want to take these games on a case by case basis.
Killer Koala Dec 6, 2012 @ 10:25am 
I think as long as you don't show anything below the waist, you're good to go.
Kristoffer Dec 6, 2012 @ 4:42pm 
I noticed that they put up leisure-suit larry also now.
[SPQR] Emperor Maxentius Dec 6, 2012 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Direktør Deng:
I noticed that they put up leisure-suit larry also now.

It's a remake of the original Leisure Suit Larry, which had lots of dirty humor but no actual nudity. Not that nudity would matter with those old AGI graphics. :P
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Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel Dec 6, 2012 @ 9:04pm 
Originally posted by Resolute:
Full violence, disemboweling, decapitations, setting things on fire are all socially acceptable to most gamers.

But apparently a set of ♥♥♥♥ starts to frighten some of them (mostly American).

Welcome to the wonderful world of gaming.

Funnily the Germans go the other way, a set of ♥♥♥♥ is ok but as soon as there is red blood it's out.

I'm sorry but why did you just single out Americans? As far as I can tell the ban on video game nudity is almost world wide. The only place where artists can truly have ultimate freedom is Japan. Nothing is banned there.
AusSkiller Dec 7, 2012 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by The Rolling Cheese:
I'm sorry but why did you just single out Americans? As far as I can tell the ban on video game nudity is almost world wide. The only place where artists can truly have ultimate freedom is Japan. Nothing is banned there.
Except uncensored nudity, as I understand it ALL full frontal nudity is censored in Japan, even in pron :O. IMO it's probably why they have so much sex crime :(.
C0untzer0 Dec 7, 2012 @ 6:26am 
Originally posted by The Rolling Cheese:

I'm sorry but why did you just single out Americans? As far as I can tell the ban on video game nudity is almost world wide. The only place where artists can truly have ultimate freedom is Japan. Nothing is banned there.

Because the Americans have never really got over being founded by people too uptight for England?
Because no other country came up with the comic book code, or has networks of public media with so much ridiculous self-censorship?
Because Americans seem to have a very repressed idea of sexuality, leading them to call "kinky" or "perverse" what the Swedes call "Healthy"?
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Kristoffer Dec 7, 2012 @ 7:43am 
I wish Valve would try and push it through, but it doesn't seem likely considering how much work it would require for seemingly little to no payoff :(
Erinduck Dec 7, 2012 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by C0untzer0:
Because the Americans have never really got over being founded by people too uptight for England?

Stop perpetuating this myth kthx.
KittyKat Dec 7, 2012 @ 10:05am 
Originally posted by Erinduck:
Originally posted by C0untzer0:
Because the Americans have never really got over being founded by people too uptight for England?

Stop perpetuating this myth kthx.

Isn't exactly a myth though, Americans are generally a lot more reserved when it comes to that kind of thing. I'm not saying its just Americans but they are generally ( and I am speaking GENERALLY, not saying all) very religious and nowhere near as liberal as other countries.
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