The Asylum
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toncica  [author] Oct 22 @ 3:51am 
I'm curious about your "longer" way and would like to see your recording. If making a video is too much trouble you can record a demo or illustrate your solution with screenshots. There's one alternative move I can see that would fit your description but it wouldn't really make the solution longer.
kyzka Oct 22 @ 2:08am 
wow just watched the walk through you did quite a few things quicker than I was doing them. Well done... I was doing the yoyo trick from inside the second section on the second level. It still works from there, just takes a lot longer...
kyzka Oct 22 @ 1:47am 
I've actually just worked it out. map just froze on me as I successfully did the laser catcher thing. Was doing the yoyo trick in the wrong way. Ill see if i can get through it long enough to record.
toncica  [author] Oct 21 @ 8:11pm 
Sorry to hear that, hope you fix your problems. I don't think it's the map though, it's rather small with few elements and the solution isn't very long. I've just added a walkthrough if you want to take a peek.
kyzka Oct 21 @ 7:19pm 
Unfortunately cant solve it, theres something wrong with my game and it keeps crashing on long portal peti maps and this is a long one. Worked out how to get both cubes over to the other section just not how to get the cube on the button without it trapping you in section 2. I know it has something to do with the yoyo move and I know what a yoyo move is, just cant see how it helps with this one. Theres a lot going back and forth, which is ok if there was not a long distance. Good map, just long. If my game ever gets fixed might take another look at it on someone elses computer.
toncica  [author] Jun 29 @ 11:38am 
Well, I've tested it with a cube button and it was even worse, meaning the exploit was easier to do. Instead I made a different change to prevent that.
taplonaplo Jun 27 @ 8:23pm 
No idea, i didn't know i could bump objects even when they don't actually clip the portal before today either. If i had to guess i'd say it's much harder to find a spot where a cube stays still so it doesn't get kicked into the fizzler when you bring down the wall for the 2nd time if it was cube button.
toncica  [author] Jun 27 @ 8:09pm 
Damn those cheeky portal physics. :D
I don't feel like doing something against it, but do you think it would have also worked if it was a cube button?
taplonaplo Jun 27 @ 7:52pm 
Well, to make up for it, here's some sketchy portal usage to do the final part way harder than you'd do normally... also the reason why i lost my cubes in the first place :P
toncica  [author] Jun 27 @ 7:42pm 
Phew! I had trouble imagining how that could be remotely possible. You go around scaring people, I've seen your comment on cyhborg's Bleached just now. ;)
taplonaplo Jun 27 @ 7:06pm 
My mistake, apologies for the false alarm, must have messed up the cube repositioning with noclip after i burnt my 2 cubes in the inner room. I'll delete the other comment.
toncica  [author] Jun 27 @ 6:13pm 
Where did you throw the cube? Can you show me?
toncica  [author] Dec 10, 2013 @ 4:35pm 
Thanks for telling, how can I miss something that obvious... Well, it's fixed now. :)
Sora Dec 10, 2013 @ 7:58am 
The way of how i getting the first cube into the room is unintended. I open blue portal and I stand underneath the cube drop, open orange portal on the button. The moment I pressed the button, the cube drop and I instantly open orange portal on the opposite room before the gate closed. Totally Unintended. Anyway this a good map especially last trick
toncica  [author] Sep 13, 2013 @ 6:59pm 
Sounds like you got the first cube exactly as intended. I would be very surprised if there was another way.
kimist108 Sep 13, 2013 @ 6:49pm 
Oh my. The hardest part for me was figuring out how to get that companion cube. I don't know if I got the first one up to the first button as you intended, but I got it. Squatting and catching was involved for that. Then, a lot (A LOT) of trial and error. And a lot of F6.
Prototype Aug 18, 2013 @ 2:46am 
Very good map, a clever combination of momentum and angles.
toncica  [author] Aug 8, 2013 @ 12:57pm 
One day I will try to understand the meaning behind that sequence of words you wrote in spoiler tags. For now I go with "no need to change anything". Since your plan starts with the companion cube and the puzzle is almost solved at that point...
BadMoon Aug 8, 2013 @ 5:15am 
OK, I am so silly. Solved it. I accidentially read the spoiler of ken.roberts and 5 minutes later it made "klick". And I totally agree with him, I also did it so many times and always forget it.

Really nice map, I especially loved the franken cube. Some more of them and I'd be ready for asylum too.
BadMoon Aug 8, 2013 @ 4:48am 

I finished it, but I didn't solved it yet!
I found and unintended solution, but there is absolutely no need to change anything to prevent this.

1) Place the Companion cube on the button for the angled panel near the goo.
2) Bring the other cube to the upper room with the button to angle the other panel.
3) Create and endless loop killing the cube: Blue portal above the goo (plate with grating, but the cube will fall through), orange portal on the ground. Drop cube through orange portal and replace orange portal under the cube dropper. Quicksave!
4) First try: As soon as cube passes orangen portal press the button to angle panel and place orange portal at same place but with plate angled. Quickly shoot 2(!) blue portals on the left half (the side next to you) of the other angled panel. Now the cube flies to the button to open the gate and stays on it.
BadMoon Aug 8, 2013 @ 4:47am 
5) First quickload! Now you have to be very quick: Do point 4) but after placing the blue portals jump down and place an orange portal on the floor right before you hit the floor. You have to place the portal before the cube hits the button, but after it left his orange portal.

Here's a screenshot. No demo as I tried about 50 times.
Now I stop playing around and start thinking again! ;-)
ken.roberts Jul 27, 2013 @ 5:28pm 
Although I have used it many times before - for some reason I did not see the yo-yo move. It is the only way to get the cube onto the final Exit button without have to trap yourself into area 2.
stormsend May 18, 2013 @ 12:28am 
Hallelujah. I've been playing this map for months. Today was my lucky day. Fantastic puzzle and all the kinks were worked out before I started so no glitches, (except in my head) I'm going to play through again after I've rested a bit. Thank you for this one.
Kababesh May 14, 2013 @ 3:16am

Double unintended solution - in that it is not what I was trying to do either. My plan was to kill the weighted cube by moving it into the fizzler - then have it knock the companion cube onto the button when it dropped after respawning.

Tried to set up the collision some more, but could never get them to hit each other without the companion cube sliding onto the button on it's own. Too bad.
Uglee May 10, 2013 @ 8:23am 
Oh for fuck's sake. I could manage to the very end but I would never ever ever ever be able to guess that move you posted last in the video. Well, maybe in a few more hours but I need some tome to live as well. :) It seem's I'm not thinking enough with portals. Really hard map and yet so small...
toncica  [author] Apr 25, 2013 @ 5:00pm 
Thanks for the feedback. That's good to hear that you encountered no problems except those the puzzle posed. I'm pretty happy with this map and another confirmed playthrough warms my heart. :)
Thanks for playing.
Hazelton Apr 25, 2013 @ 4:49pm 

This chamber has been kicking my arse for months, now, but at last I'm through the exit door. The accomplishment was somewhat cheapened by the fact that I spoiled myself on how to solve the final problem, but honestly, I don't think it would have occurred to me in any reasonable time frame.

Big props on the precision of your design. There is nothing superfluous, nothing to mislead the player, and it's impossible to get irretrievably stuck or die.
bobdugan_2000 Feb 17, 2013 @ 9:41pm 
Thanks Tonica for that one. Very humbling, but with enough thought, trial and error, and a few coffee breaks, I completed it.
For me, getting to the cube on top of the glass was hard. Harder still was at the end where figuring out how to get the cube onto the exit button successfully and still get back to the exit door room.
Great job on ths map. That was like a good job; work, but fun work :)
toncica  [author] Dec 9, 2012 @ 1:27pm 
Yay! I'm glad this map could compensate some of your trouble you had with the other one.
KennKong Dec 9, 2012 @ 12:56pm 
Much better without the strafe jump. The puzzle is just as hard, but doable by mere mortals. Added to my Favorite Hard Maps collection.
toncica  [author] Nov 22, 2012 @ 7:35pm 
Nice creative thinking. I wasn't aware of that possibility when I made the map and I probably couldn't prevent that anyway. I'd say it's almost a valid alternative solution but of course it has to feel unintended. The last move was expected to be this:
Mevious Nov 22, 2012 @ 5:51pm 
My solution felt unintended. I balanced the companion cube on top of the normal cube right next to the exit door button, then respawned the normal cube so that the companion cube fell onto the button and opened the exit door.
toncica  [author] Nov 8, 2012 @ 4:53am 
I'd say the hardest part in the other map was realizing that you had to fling between the two rooms, grab the cube and then air strafe to the ledge near the exit - all in a continuous move. That part is completely gone.
LPChip Nov 8, 2012 @ 4:26am 
@Inspirata, you probably are looking for a hint, but I'll answer your question anyway...
The map used to be harder because it was less clear what one could do. The new redesign makes things more clear and obvious. You no longer guess what you need to do, thus its easier. But the solution itself hasn't changed much. It did change, and it might actually be harder, but only slightly, as other parts have been made easier.
toncica  [author] Nov 8, 2012 @ 4:21am 
Is that a rhetorical question or do you expect a hint?
p0rtalmaster Nov 8, 2012 @ 3:36am 
How can such a map be so hard even when the difficulty has been toned down several notches?
LPChip Oct 14, 2012 @ 5:26am 
Damn, this is a really hard map.

I was stuck at 3 places.
1. To get the cube with me to open the door
2. To get both cubes to the other side
3. to exit

In the end, solving it gave enough satisfaction.
RED Oct 10, 2012 @ 5:15pm 
No idea
Will try again another day.
toncica  [author] Oct 6, 2012 @ 5:22am 
No changes, just new preview picture for Dreamer. :)
Dreamer #F4F Oct 4, 2012 @ 4:10am 
this chamber is the hard version of preperation 3 and it has a better design, it is bigger and it is challenging more. Just the editor picture is bad ^^ I had a lot of fun with this chamber. thx you
toncica  [author] Sep 28, 2012 @ 2:01am 
Congratulations to you FoG Leo, with finding the intended solution on your own you have joined an exclusive club. Welcome! :D
›› ╚℮Ѳ ‹‹ Sep 26, 2012 @ 1:37pm 
Yeah I solved it (@ my third but first bug-free trial)

Congratulations for the creation of such a mean map with rather few elements ;)
Geneosis Sep 23, 2012 @ 4:47am 
Yeah that's the main problem : you could think forever about wrong solution when you don't get the precise portal placements for the right one X)
toncica  [author] Sep 23, 2012 @ 4:30am 
Well, respawning the cube would be legit any other time, but I was already lenient on the predecessor maps and allowed that, so I feel like insisting on the original solution for once. It's easy to execute, no skills involved, purely thinking with portals.
Geneosis Sep 23, 2012 @ 4:13am 
Just said that about the old version ^^
toncica  [author] Sep 23, 2012 @ 4:04am 
@Leo, sorry. I have seen that happening on other maps but in all the countless playthroughs I've done on this map it's never happened to me. Sucks that you are the one to win the bug lottery.
›› ╚℮Ѳ ‹‹ Sep 23, 2012 @ 3:59am 
hm i got stucked because the elevator remained in the upper position while i was already on the floor again, thats something you cant solve, I know. I will restart and then quicksave in the final room today evening...
toncica  [author] Sep 23, 2012 @ 3:34am 
Did you just try the updated version or are you refering to your playthrough from yesterday?
Geneosis Sep 23, 2012 @ 3:30am 
Being able to trap yourself is not cool... But I really don't see any other way to activate this button AND come back to the main room without respawning the cube like that X)
toncica  [author] Sep 22, 2012 @ 2:06pm 
Yeah, one single laser field wouldn't help at all, I noticed that. Both fizzlers would need to go so you can't destroy the cube anymore. But that brings the possibility for the player to trap himself.