The Paarthurnax Dilemma
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etrexler 22 hours ago 
No,Wait! Wow! I went ahead and subscribed to this mod anyway after posting(below)about my concerns whether it would still work stacking on the "Paarthurnax Fix"mod that I'd used a couple of years ago. Well...it worked! I saw a new quest in my Quest Journal "Ask Esban about dragon lairs". I hadn't seen that before,so I thought what the hell,I might as well go over to Sky Haven and ask him. The dialogue with him opens the same way as before,me saying "About Paarthurnax..." but then an entirely different dialogue script opens up(unvoiced)allowing me to challenge the Blades about Paarthurnax! That's your mod,isn't it!!? Yay! Double Yay! How great are you?!! So,now I've done all the heretofore unavailable Blades Radiant Quests,picked up Dragonsbane(which I otherwise would have to steal),and killed a Dragon with my three Blade recruits. Marvelous. Thank you so much Arthmoor!
etrexler Aug 27 @ 12:37am 
O.K. Thank you so much for the info Arthmoor! I guess I just have to let the Blade Radiant Quests go. No loss,really. I'm sorry I missed your mod when I was looking for help!
Arthmoor  [author] Aug 26 @ 10:53pm 
No, Paarthurnax Fix edits the same quest I do and they're fundamentally incompatible with each other because of it.
etrexler Aug 25 @ 9:40pm 
Does anyone know if this mod will stack with the Paarthurnax Fix mod? Which I had downloaded last year so that I could finish the MQ without killing Paarthurnax. If I subscribe to the Paarthurnax Dilemma now will it cause any problems?
sparklingflow Aug 24 @ 4:51pm 
Etrexler- This mod is supssed to make you assert your authority as dragonborn over the blades. Once that's done Paarthurnax should be spared and the Blades will bend to your desire so you can continue their radiant quests. Also Paarthurnax gets some students to teach. I've never had any sort of problem with this mod. The earlier you download it for your game the better.
Angry Porto Aug 24 @ 8:33am 
While I found Delphine's threat to kill the Dragonborn if he spares Paarthurnaxx a bit audacious, nevertheless, this mod is a fantastic and much needed slap-in-the-face for the otherwise stubborn Blades. Well done, and thank you.

Oh, and the Dragonborn's threat coupled with the thu'um shaking was perfect!
etrexler Aug 24 @ 2:19am 
So,my question here is,does this mod help with post MQ problems with Esben and Delphine? I got a mod to change the dialogue with Esben and Delphine so that I could spare this dragon and finish the main quest with him still living. I have established the Blades in Sky Haven. I've brought three new recruits to the Blades. But when I ask Esben for the "Dragon Research" quest,or ask Delphine for the "Dragon Hunting" quest the only response I get from either one of them is "Paarthurnax must die". Is this mod a fix for that or not?
an actual bear Aug 22 @ 9:35pm 
I wish I had seen this mod before I spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out how to kill and then resurrect him just right to make everyone happy >_>
Fox Aug 21 @ 9:15pm 
Lmao *ground shakes* nice touch, although, it clearly states in the main quest line that the dragon born can not actually speak the language of the dovah.
Fox Aug 21 @ 9:08pm 
@Niksan You are told to kill Paarthurnax after the main questline, you are still in the middle of it.
Dayison2 Aug 15 @ 6:48pm 
I had this mod pretty early on becuase I knew from the beginning I wouldn't want to kill him. Unfortunately, afterward I couldn't continue the dragon hunting quests. Esbern and Delphine won't take any reqruits. Suggestions?
Niksan Aug 12 @ 4:51pm 
So I found about this mod by doing some research. I realized that P would die by my hand, I saw it coming waaaaay before I even finished talking to him, but anyways when I talked to P and then the game told me to meet either the Greybeard or Esberen... I stopped and downloaded the mod. Then I opened Skyrim and loaded where I left off. I went to talk to Esberen because I thought he would tell me to kill P and I could say no to that. So the question is... did the mod work? I'm told to go to the Collge of Winterhold and Esberen can teach me a blessing, Dalphine was with him when I began talking but then left and I can't find her. So what is going on? I thought after talking to P, I would be able to talk to Esberen, Dalphine and the Greybeards... Please help so I would know if the mod is going to work or not.
donna.mahoney Aug 12 @ 9:34am 
hmmm this mod doesn't seem right... oh wait you can already choose to let parthurnax live in the vanilla game but the blads hate you.
<[FFC]> ThePyroManiac Aug 11 @ 6:02pm 
I hated this SO MUCH thank you so much I just didn't like teh greybeard hating on me
кнαιנιιт Aug 9 @ 6:01pm 
XD First I shall save Paarthurnax, then i shall sentence Delphine and Esbern to death by beheading.
Rin Aug 7 @ 8:13am 
Paarthurnax he meh dragon buddy love this mod
Spoiled Milk Aug 4 @ 1:43pm 
I had a small glitch where i had to reload my save because the quest wouldnt even show up
ROFLMAOmatt Aug 2 @ 9:09pm 
I wish I knew about this two years ago
Evan, cshazlett Aug 1 @ 6:29pm 
*slaps delphine* Bad, no candy for you!
Aug 1 @ 10:19am 
Does this mod in Russian?
A Question Mark Jul 30 @ 10:04am 
I played console before PC and back then i got REALLY PISSED when the blades acted like 4 year olds an i had to sever all ties with the greybeards.But now i can have 200+ mods and save paarthurnax. thx man!
SlushieDee Jul 30 @ 8:11am 
Yes. Just yes.
infernalkitty216 Jul 29 @ 9:02pm 
dude... i love u forever for this!
Nicholas Jul 29 @ 3:18pm 
I just killed those 2 jerks. LOL
lxMattAranxl Jul 28 @ 11:42am 
I have a epic reason why NOONE should kill him: The voice actor!

No joke... THE Charles Martinet, the voice of Mario and Luigi (and a few others), was also the voice of this very dragon! WHO would've thought?!?

PROOF OF THIS DRAGON'S EPICNESS: (skip to 6:04) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZTtN5f6jR0#aid=P-HSiaUvO6c
Fudgesticks Jul 27 @ 11:27am 
Paarthurnax was a total bro, thanks bud!
Knightquinn Jul 26 @ 4:34am 
when i saw this i was all like: and then i played it, i was like:
Capitane Jul 26 @ 1:55am 
Finally! a mod what helps with the blades. i don't like them wanting me to kill paarthurnax, and now i can save him.
Velocistar Jul 25 @ 9:18am 
THANK YOU! I always loved paarthurnax and thought the blades were idiots wanting to kill him thank you!

CrazyCrux Jul 24 @ 8:16pm 
This is possibly the BEST elder scrolls mod I have EVER come across. And this is coming from someone who has been modding since Morrowind!
FainterBread678 Jul 24 @ 1:25pm 
When i was talking to delphine all of a sudden i talked dragon launguage, that really caught me off guard but nevertheless im thankfull you made this mod
2 Para-UK Jul 23 @ 4:03am 
so what do i have to say to the blades?
Reticent Gleam Jul 22 @ 7:03pm 
Thank you for this. It always annoyed me that I couldn't tell Delphine to shove it when she demanded I kill the NPC who was MOST helpful in defeating Alduin, and that Esbern would go along with that illogical, vindictive stance.
Typical White Girl Jul 20 @ 9:02pm 
Or. you can just use console commands to make them non-essential npc's and slaughter them. After putting the blades to the sword, I hid their bodies in the slave quarters of castle draco to use as dead thralls
forgotten being Jul 19 @ 7:57pm 
I really like the dialogue you used, especially what the Dragonborn says, but I wish it was voice acted. Oh well, at least Paarthurnax isn't dead, and I can recruit people into the Blades!
typhoondiving Jul 19 @ 2:06pm 
I loved Paarthurnax as he was teaching me on my quest to save Skyrim. Since in the game you don't have any parents or older relatives, he kinda felt like a really wierd, scaly, oversized father... :-/
I kinda wish that he had other things for me to do after the quest line is completed cause he just fades into the background after you're done. Instead of having only things to chat about, he should have things that lead me on adventures.
[HCE] Cpt. Headcrab Jul 18 @ 7:56pm 
@TheGman Destroying everything would be fun.
The Boss Jul 16 @ 11:54am 
first I don't think the blades truly care about the dragonborn I think they just want to kill every dragon and they use the dragonborn as their puppet and the only reason they protected the others before the dragon's return was because if they came back they would have their pinocioe at the ready!.
but that aside you should make a different version of this when paarthurnax and the greybeards convince you that the blades are evil in truth and you and them kill all the gavered blades and new recruits (added in by you) and after lots of tracking down small bands, taking there equipment, taking over forts they control (added in by you) and finding your own recruits (added in by you.) You storm to the blades fort place where you find out about how the dragons were gone in the first place, to kill all the blades. I know the greybeards are mainly peaceful but everyone has a dark side!
rbull Jul 16 @ 7:46am 
This mod made so much sense to me since you had the choice to destroy the Dark Brotherhood or join.
I wish I had the choice to destroy the Theives Guild and that Black-Brier B-tch, Mabon and her son. You could make her non-essential and it would make my day! I'd like to take a shot at that Imperial Yarl in the Blue Palace also if someone could make a Clean-up Tamriel mod.

Me and Mjoll would be a great team to save Rifton and the rest of Tamriel from the evils that plague Tamriel.
Is there missing dialogue for Delphine and Esburn? I see character conversation options but I don't hear the NPC talking.
GhostNappa585 Jul 15 @ 1:58pm 
What kind of open world game would this be if you couldn't choose the other road?
Benyed Jul 15 @ 11:29am 
I was so annoyed when I saw that you can't not kill Paarthurnax, frankly, i would rather kill Delphine and Esbern instead. You know what? call me a villan but i'd rather side with Alduin and end the world with him, that would probably be more fun.
faithk9 Jul 14 @ 5:36am 
thanks for making it : )
faithk9 Jul 14 @ 5:36am 
this looks pretty cool i like that you can have more of a choice now
jsherman0018 Jul 12 @ 8:07pm 
@ Arthmoor I agree
Galinbradwarn Jul 11 @ 9:30am 
Like the idear but do the CW first then the main and boom leave the two non Blades who don't have any knolage of the last 200 years rot in the temple,once i get them there thats it never see the bitch again and all is right with the world, to the Oblivion player this will make sence, the blades let Uriel Septim VII die then there funky boss helped Martin save the day, and the last good deed thay did was help save the city, as for these two flush them down the drain.
Nordic Hoplite Jul 10 @ 12:15pm 
Awesome. Glad I have this now before I get to that part. Definately a thumbs up from me
Fuse018 Jul 8 @ 8:12am 
Thanks a lot for the mod mate.
Adding this to the questline was a stupid decision by the developers.
rhexxbex324 Jul 8 @ 7:26am 
@LarrytheGardenGnome he does that because he is a passive npc so you have to keep attaking him and eventually he will fight you
DovaDwarf Jul 7 @ 6:53pm 
I got a steam error 16 when I downloaded it
alexanderos123 Jul 7 @ 2:13pm 
if youre joining the blades with this mod, will you be able to speak with the greybeards then?