With a Little Help From My Friends
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Bayram  [author] Jul 19 @ 7:41pm 
dmuk : Thanks for playing and your comments. Although when I created this map I had a very specific idea of how it should be played it has opened my eyes as to just how creative people can be. Congratulations on defeating the turrets with a rush; I've never been able to do that. You're right, the radio should play music. I figured out how to do that in my all-Hammer map: "Interface (Hammer Version)".
dmuk Jul 19 @ 6:41pm 
Watched the explanation/playthru (in the images above) after, and the intended solutions were slightly different than what I cobbled together... Used only 2 cubes (those from the start) and of course the round cube in that sideroom. For the turrets, I took the more 'gonzo' approach and just rushed them when the panel dropped open, holding one of the cubes as a shield.
dmuk Jul 19 @ 6:13pm 
Finished - in this case, 'toncica' was one of the friends who helped most with a wonderful idea! So, didn't use the mutant cube as intended... This is a very intricate chamber and takes thinking both ahead and behind (oh, yeah). How come the radio isn't playing any music??
mood3rd Apr 16 @ 2:07pm 
Bayram
aha, the penny dropped.
that is why the light bridges turn off.
I was trying to figure that out for a while :)
mood3rd Apr 16 @ 2:04pm 
Bayram
I considered that, but would have never solved the puzzles under time presure.
my way gave me as much time as I required.
so getting the gel covered franken on the button, guarded by turrets,
must have been unintended.
I sent it in there to kill some turrets, thinking I might be able to deal with the rest.
I turned my back on it to get to cover.
when I looked at it, it was on the button ?
so probably could not repeat that either.
all turrets unharmed.

hope you enjoy my map.
would be good to see a video of your maps intended solutions.
Bayram  [author] Apr 16 @ 1:56pm 
mood3rd, well done! I think that you probably solved most of the puzzles in an unintended way, but if you enjoyed it, who cares. The intended way isto have the frankencube walk the glass hallway to turn off each laser barrier as you come to it, which is fun on the way back because he doesn't stop so you have to be quick!

I will try your map, maybe tomorrow.
mood3rd Apr 16 @ 1:48pm 
Bayram
it came to me :)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249903942
I placed gel in 2 portals on the floor & waited until the gel lost most of it's hieght.
then fired a portal just under the upper area, that I wanted to get to.
then the gel came out on the floor, under it.

graet map-thumbs up
difficulty hard, for me.
satisfaction high
please try my map.
"more than one ?"
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=187016376
mood3rd Apr 16 @ 1:24pm 
Bayram
I am stuck here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249894546
I made it to the last pedestal button & am on my way back.
but can't get up here ?
the 1st time in here, I covered the franken in gel & bounced up off it.
the franken is now on the button, guarded by turrets.
perhaps the franken solution was unintended ?
their is also some glitch with the laser fields.
I had a cube blocking a laser going into a laser catcher, to turn off a laser field.
but the laser field went back on.
I had to move the cube to allow the laser to go back into the laser catcher.
then block it again, to turn off the laser field ?
Bayram  [author] Jan 21 @ 8:03am 
Thanks for the second demo with the non-ninja unintended solutions. I may make a few small changes as a result of this, but overall what you did wasn't so easy that it makes the map not work at all. You did miss a few things that I think are enjoyable, especially the easter egg, but even so it looked to me as if you were having fun.
Brave Jan 19 @ 4:07pm 
I made another demo solving this chamber unintended!
I think I did the beginning wrong, and didn't make use of the last section with the sphere or funnel, theres to much to my disposal in solving your chamber Bayram!
I noticed the details in this chamber, I can tell you put a lot of work using Hammer authoring tools, i'm not sure if you want to fix all these issues i've found.
Bayram  [author] Jan 19 @ 6:09am 
Thanks for the demo, but I've decided not to worry about alternate solutions that require extraordinary skill. Most people won't be able to do what you did. Those that can, well, maybe the map is too easy for them and it's more fun to look for alternate soluitions.

Losing the companion cube will definitely mess you up, that's why it's a companion cube, but there are lots of autosaves so you should be able to recover.

I agree that there's a lot of stuff packed into this map. Sorry that you didn't like that, I'd hoped to earn a thumbs up, but as GLaDOS says, "fair's fair". Thanks for playing.
Brave Jan 18 @ 2:52pm 
I spent over 20 minutes in this chamber before I realize it can be solved unintended, but only if you're good at tossing cubes!
Also I accidently destroyed the solid cube at the pistol platform and dropped in the goo, which I had to go back on a saved the first time I played!
Other than that, being your first chamber the design is very nice, but this small chamber is really busy with lots of laser emitters, pedestal buttons, and floor buttons!
Don't get me wrong, back when I started playing portal, I loved busy chambers, "small or large," just not anymore!
Not sure if you want to fix this unintended solving
Bayram  [author] Dec 2, 2013 @ 4:29am 
Thanks for playing and commenting. Yes, quicksave is important, but there is also some fairly complicated autosave logic in this map, particularly for the dash back to the entry / exit area when the frankencube does not stop and wait for you.
Stagger Lee Dec 2, 2013 @ 3:53am 
I finally got around to playing this. Tricky map but I made it through although I may have done some parts in unintended ways. Quicksave was my friend as much as the Companion Cube was as there are ways one can trap themself.in a couple of areas. It is fairly obvious where so that is why I quicksaved first. Very rewarding chamber to play though.
Bayram  [author] Nov 23, 2013 @ 5:07am 
Thanks, Jade, for checking it out again.
Jade BGE Nov 22, 2013 @ 11:34am 
Nice looking test. You did a good job with the hammer. Still fun and challenging to play too.
Thank you for sharing the update :)
Bayram  [author] Nov 22, 2013 @ 4:12am 
Yes, I realize this, but I can't do any ninja stuff so it's pointless trying to block it. Ninjas will play my maps however they want, but as far as I can tell I don't get down-votes from ninjas who find they can bypass the puzzles with fancy jumps and such. Ninjas tend to be honorable people; it's newbies I get the down-votes from when they think the puzzles are too hard. I think of exploits (portal bumping, re-portalling, etc.) as just cheating and if people want to do that then fine, but they may as well just noclip to the exit because they're spoiling their own fun. Thanks again for your comments.
NotAghost Nov 21, 2013 @ 5:44pm 
It is still possible but now would fall under the category of ninja/exploit. I can link you the demo I recorded on mediafire if you want.
Bayram  [author] Nov 21, 2013 @ 4:20am 
If you mean from the walls in which the lasers are mounted to the areas at either end, then fixing this was intentional. I widened the gaps. The railings are to reduce the chance of the player or the cube falling into the goo. Thanks for your comment.
NotAghost Nov 20, 2013 @ 6:16pm 
Before you added in the railings, there was one easy strafe that could be made to beat the map in like 30 seconds. Nice job removing it, intentional or not.
Bayram  [author] Nov 12, 2013 @ 2:38pm 
November 12 : Updated with Hammer to make it more visually interesting, easier in execution and less prone to accidental death. The puzzles are the same. The easter egg is much, much better, and if you didn't find it when you played, this would be the time to re-play. The player trap found by Mr.Finn.T has been fixed. I've lost the .p2c file, so all updates with now be with Hammer. That should force me to learn it!
Bayram  [author] Oct 30, 2013 @ 7:00am 
Thanks for playing and the comment. This was my first map and I learned a lot from players, including how hard it is to eliminate unintended solutions in a complex map. Something else I learned (that is almost impossible to correct on this map) is that the overall structure of the puzzles may be glaringly obvious to me, the creator, but that doesn't mean it is even easy for players to figure out. I think I got a lot of down votes from people who quit after two minutes of frustration. Thanks for sticking it out.
Chev Chelios Oct 30, 2013 @ 4:53am 
this was a b*tch. took me a while. especially at the frikin start with the blue gel.only problem with the map is it's very chaotic at start and if i didnt know you (that you make logical maps) i would have quited in the first 2 mins. overall very good map
Bayram  [author] Oct 18, 2013 @ 6:03am 
Thanks for playing, I will take a look at this problem.
MrFinnT Oct 17, 2013 @ 12:14pm 
there is a way to get yourself stuck, at the 2nd Beam (or 3rd room), you put a portal above it and jump in the beam. you get to the end and you will stay... well you fly there for an eternety
Bayram  [author] Sep 29, 2013 @ 3:26pm 
I ask about the easter egg specifically because you said "Had fun taking out those turrets". To make it easier to find the easter egg, ponder the hint in the description: "you will know when it is time to go looking for it".
kimist108 Sep 29, 2013 @ 10:13am 
Argh, I forgot to look. Will go back and look.
Bayram  [author] Sep 29, 2013 @ 4:58am 
Thanks for playing and for the thumbs up! Did you find the easter egg?
kimist108 Sep 28, 2013 @ 5:15pm 
WOW. That made me think about all of the tricks picked up along the way. I only played one map previously that did that with the frankencube. In the first room. Had fun taking out those turrets.
martinbarrett Sep 18, 2013 @ 8:13am 
I worked it out.
Great Map
martinbarrett Sep 18, 2013 @ 8:04am 
Have to come back to this one. Can't seem to kill the turret.
daloboy Jul 16, 2013 @ 8:34am 
For the hidden room: in the last room, when I'm on the top, looking through the hole in the black tiles, I can see a very little part of a white tile. That's how I got in.
Bayram  [author] Jul 16, 2013 @ 5:39am 
Thanks for playing and the thumbs up! Yes, that door is the way into the hidden room; you must have got in via the exit, although I can't see how. There's nothing I can do about that gap; it's a problem with PuzzleMaker. I don't think it's anything to worry about in this case; the glass is meant to make sure that the player remembers the blue gel but to prevent him from portaling directly from the first side-room into the second.

I will play your map.
daloboy Jul 15, 2013 @ 10:31pm 
Fun map! A lot to do! Found the hidden room! Was this door suppose to be open in the hidden room? I noticed that here, there's a gap between the glass and floor, permitting a portal through!
Here's one of mine. Please test and comment. Thank you.
UFS FrostGiant May 4, 2013 @ 6:25am 
Enjoyed playing this map:) Could u try my new map
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=142987052.
Mr Bonkers May 3, 2013 @ 4:09pm 
Nice :) Hardest part for me was figuring out the blue gel part at the start. I guess we all think differently!
Bayram  [author] Apr 22, 2013 @ 7:05am 
Thanks for playing and the thumbs up! The intended way back is in the hint video; if you open it in YouTube and view the full description you can click and skip ahead to that part.
I certainly do remember Quirkafleeg, which I enjoyed a lot in spite of failing to figure out one part myself.
Aardvark64 Apr 22, 2013 @ 6:25am 
Delay in doing your chamber due to a holiday in Turkey, remember doing my Quirkafleeg? , but I've just completed and it's a resounding thumbs up. I was off to a slow start as I didn't know where to head for and didn't spot the neat gel trick at first. Then I made steady progress and got the exit open. Then a long pause until I figured out a way of getting back. My method was hard work (turning off one laser field at a time with the companion cube) so it might not have been the intended one, but it got me there eventually! Excellent chamber, enjoyed it a lot.
On the subject of the puzzles folder, having lost the contents of mine once when I re-installed Portal, I now make sure I keep a current backup of that folder on an external drive.
Bayram  [author] Apr 19, 2013 @ 10:22am 
OK, thanks. I did some research, but came to the wrong conclusion. So I think I have the .vmf file for this chamber, but the p2c file is lost. Anyway, I'm pretty happy with it and I don't think I'm going to be able to make it much better, especially if I'm getting thumbs down for it being too hard. I won't make the same mistake again. On to the new chamber!
toncica Apr 19, 2013 @ 10:15am 
That's the wrong folder, the editor files are here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\portal 2\portal2\puzzles\"large number"\
The file names are numbers, you can identify which puzzle is which when you look at the images, for each p2c file there is a corresponding jpg picture file.
Bayram  [author] Apr 18, 2013 @ 1:03pm 
I saved off the wrong folder, then. I saved ...\Portal 2\sdk_content\maps. On the other hand, the new ...\Portal 2\sdk_content\puzzles presently contains only one file, devtest.p2c, although I have created several more (unpublished) chambers.
toncica Apr 18, 2013 @ 11:41am 
The files for the editor are stored in the portal2 subfolder named "puzzles". If you installed the OS onto the same hard drive or partition then those files are lost.
Easy maps get more votes because more people complete them, every map gets some thumbs down though.
Bayram  [author] Apr 18, 2013 @ 11:32am 
toncica : Thanks for everything! Please don't trouble yourself about the trap as I've lost the ability to change this chamber. I re-installed the OS and I can't figure out how to get the files back into puzzlemaker. I've started work on a new chamber which is a bit easier as my guess is that I'm getting thumbs-down ratings from people who just think that this chamber is too hard.
toncica Apr 18, 2013 @ 9:17am 
Congrats to 25 votes. :)
I played the map again a few days ago and encountered a situation where I was trapped, that was after the panels close. I'll do another run soon to see what exactly happened as my memory is a bit fuzzy about that.
|B3ATB0X|KittenGamer|DJ| Apr 17, 2013 @ 9:49am 
lau = bitch =)
Bayram  [author] Apr 17, 2013 @ 9:05am 
Lau : You gave the chamber a thumbs down and posted a nonsense comment; did you play the chamber?
Bayram  [author] Apr 15, 2013 @ 8:13am 
Assuming that you are looking at the Description tab of this chamber's page in the Steam Portal 2 Workshop, at the top you should see a large picture of the chamber and under that a row of smaller pictures. The leftmost picture is the video. Click on it to watch in the Steam browser. Or follow this link to watch in YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoX4-wdqaHg. It's probably easier to skip to the sphere room in YouTube.
|B3ATB0X|KittenGamer|DJ| Apr 15, 2013 @ 7:55am 
where is the vidéo ?
Bayram  [author] Apr 14, 2013 @ 2:23pm 
<^the*kitten*gamer ^>™ : Thanks for the thumbs up and I'm glad you liked the chamber. If you had fun, whatever you did to get the ball was "right". If you want to see the intended solution, look at the video and skip to 10:54.
|B3ATB0X|KittenGamer|DJ| Apr 14, 2013 @ 2:16pm 
My coop maps called Kitten in science collection