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Skeleton Heroes and Champions

These glowing assholes are strong as fuck and can't be undead feared. Very nice. I like it.

BTW armour stops having any effect from about 750 or so - that's when your physical damage resistance gets to 80% which is the maximum that the game will allow (and also what the Dragonhide spell gives you). That maximum cap means that once you get to very high levels armour actually becomes less and less effective against any levelled enemy, because their damage keeps going up while the effectiveness of your armour doesn't. You'll find the same thing if you try to take on guards at your level, and the Champs are tougher than guards! Once you get to the armour cap, all you can really do to stay effective at true toe-to-toe slugging while using a two-handed weapon is to increase your Health (health regen doesn't really help much, you might as well just keep popping the Ultimate Healing potions which you'll have hundreds of by that point).

No problem! Glad you like it, and glad they're challenging you :)

They are much tougher than they were in Oblivion - they weren't really top-level monsters in Oblivion, but when I made this mod I expected most people would have very high level characters and would need them to be hard.

I have around 1000 armour and am dealing around 100 damage a hit (two-handed at 100, maxed out dragonbone greatsword with no enchantments). I think the problem is that when I encounetered the Champion I was in a tight corridor with no room to maneuver (mod added dungeon, kind of poorly designed) I was just throwing up the Dremora Lords to stop him from destroying me. I have played a ridiculous amount of Oblivion and don't remember them ever being that difficult. By the way, I love your mods, they add the enemy variety and depth to combat that the base game is lacking. I guess this is just my transition stage to your more difficult enemies, haha. Thanks for responding!

By the way, Dremora Lords probably suck against Champions because they (the Lords) spend too much of their time trying to block. Dremora Lords also only go up to level 47, so against levelled enemies your level 53 character is going to see Dremora Lords increasingly unable to cope.

Skeleton Champions are HARD, Freedom's Flame. They're intended to be able to put the fear into level 53 characters! ;)

300 health and 150% health regen isn't really much at all. It sounds like your character is not built for toe-to-toe combat, especially against high level melee enemies, which the Champ is. My higher-level melee characters are at the armour cap (armour rating 750 or so) and doing more than 100 damage with every hit, and they only break a light sweat dealing with a Champ.

I'm sure you walk over the enemies from the base game, but the base game stops giving you tougher enemies once you are facing Ancient Dragons, Centurion Masters and Chaurus Reapers, which happens in the mid-30s somewhere.

Try using different tactics against the Champions... Or levelling your Smithing :)

So.... I'm level 53 and just had a Skeleton Champion tear his way through three Dremora Lords and then kill me in three hits. I have 300 health and 150% health regen with an item. This is on Adept difficulty too. Did you mess something up with your level scaling? Even his shield bashes take out a fifth of my health.

No idea why they didn't keep the higher skeleton ranks.

sweeeeet brah

I finally got around to doing a publishable wraith mod, check it out. It's called "Dread Wraiths".

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