The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Imp's More Complex Needs
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 5:33pm
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Imp's More Complex Needs

See the Discussions tab for the full ReadMe, FAQ, Changelog, and notes on creating compatibility patches for other mods.

IMCN is a realistic hunger/thirst/sleep mod for Skyrim. It assigns real world nutrition information to all foods, giving each item its own strengths and weaknesses, and adding a large array of new stats in addition to the usual hunger/thirst/sleep.

There are two modes available, Basic and More Complex. The general idea is to make it pretty basic to keep your hunger, thirst and sleep taken care of, to avoid penalties. Enable More Complex mode and you'll have additional stats to keep track of, but the potential to earn stat bonuses by taking better care of your character.

More Complex mode keeps track of:

Satiation - Penalties if greater than 100%, increases when eating
Calories - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Hydration - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Sleep - Penalties if greater than 100% (8 hours)
Blood (if you're a vampire) - Penalties if less than 0%, bonuses for high levels
Protein - Penalties if less than 75%, Bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 8 hours)
Nutrients - Penalties if less than 75%, bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 3 days)
Alcohol - Penalties and bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Caffeine - Bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Moon Sugar - Bonus depending on level (none for 0%)
Mental Fatigue - Penalties to magicka if greater than 0%, increases as magicka is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Physical Fatigue - Penalties to maximum stamina if greater than 0%, increases as stamina is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Morale - Bonuses if greater than 6.0, penalties if less than 4.0, increases or decreases depending on the appeal of the food you eat

Basic mode, which is similar to Fallout: New Vegas' Hardcore mode, keeps track of:

Blood (if you're a vampire)
Moon Sugar (skooma)

There's a great deal more to this mod than I can fit on this description page (there's a character limit) so check out the discussion tab, and the mod's Nexus page for additional compatibility patches, readme, and changelogs, and the Bethesda forums topic for the latest info on updates and planned features.

Nexus Page:
Bethesda Forums:

Basic Tips

Try to keep your hunger and thirst above 0, shoot for above 100% for both after a meal.
Eat before fast traveling if you find you're arriving too hungry.
Ride a horse. This will conserve calories and water, and give you a chance to recover from fatigue.
USE THE TIMESCALE ADJUSTER. It can be enabled and configured in the config menu.
Check out the +IMCN Conditions+ menu to get an idea of the kinds of penalties or bonuses provided.

IMCN supports SkyUI's Mod Configuration Menu (MCM). SkyUI is not a requirement for installation, but some configuration options will be unavailable without it.

The hotkey for checking your needs levels and using water sources require SKSE to be installed. SKSE is not a requirement for installing the mod, but the hotkey will not work without it.

Compatibility Patches for Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLCs are available:


!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!

Before uninstalling, enter the foods section of your inventory and click the +IMCN Vitality+ item, go to "Actions" and pause by either clicking the Enable/Pause toggle button, or the Reset button. The button should read "Enabled/Pauses: Paused" when you're done. This will dispel all active effects, making it safe to uninstall without messing up your character's stats. Save, then uncheck the files from your load order.

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!
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Imp  [author] Apr 26 @ 3:44pm 
@Lost_in_Strategy - It's mentioned in the FAQ on the Discussions tab, but the water detection works by looking for water-related references, like ripples. You need to be standing near whitewater for the water to be detected. (It was a lot simpler in Fallout 3, when all water worked as an activator.)
Lost_in_Strategy Apr 3 @ 12:01pm 
Open source body of water refill/drink option doesn't seem to be working. Most likely, something I'm wrong on my end? The mod works fine with everything else.

Can somebody please inform me what is going on here? I'm in Broken Oar Grotto (nothing but water in this cave) All I get is my nutritional values from the +More Complex Action+ ability. cannot bottle/drink any of it. (I have 3 empty wine bottles) I'm damn near going insane trying to figure this out. I've followed the authors advice on his nexus:

"Water can be bottled or drunk at many interior water sources, as well as near running water and most wells. To use water, select the +IMCN Actions+ lesser power from your spells list, and activate the power near a body of water or well. If you're trying to drink or bottle from an exterior river, look for the ripple effect near waterfalls and stand near that."

Would appreciate some help please. Thank you.
Mattrodynamix Apr 2 @ 8:26pm 
Truly amazing. Fun to play the game with a more survival like feeling to it.
Kapitän Dietrich Apr 2 @ 8:29am 
When I uninstalled by following all the instructions and safely disabling it, the next day when I loaded my save, it turns out it got corrupted as well as all my other saves. I had to start all over :c
Imp  [author] Mar 31 @ 9:57pm 
There are compatibility patches available for a few mods, available on Skyrim Nexus. Uploading patches here is a little awkward (they need to be separate files.) The process for making foods compatible is written out on the discussions tab.
Reigdaer Mar 27 @ 8:13am 
hi there

im starting to use this great mod to make skyrim more interesting but i have some doubts, beginning with if is there any mod incompatibility problems already known, because is not recognizing all the food as IMCN food, some food recipes are not usable to satiate the character needs

i use the mod rebuild list, but still some of them are missing...

any ideas?
Scribbledot Jan 27 @ 8:57pm 
well, i only have hearthfire and dragonborn. i have lots of mods for the game, so im gonna try to take some off to see if its just too much for skyrim to load soooo...
Imp  [author] Jan 26 @ 5:21pm 
@gamezombie - There's a lesser power that can be used near some bodies of water. It's mentioned in the FAQ on the discussion page.

@lilianna002 - Crashes in this engine can seem pretty arbitrary and are tough to diagnose. The mod is stable on my machine, and for most users. Mod conflicts or different hardware or game setups could be the cause. The Dawnguard DLC was also notorious for crashing repeatedly once started, so getting that out of the way or avoiding it entirely can help.
Scribbledot Jan 25 @ 7:08pm 
u keep getting kicked out of the game, any way i can fix this?
gamezombie Jan 25 @ 5:01pm 
can you refill an empty bottle after you drink the water cause every time i drink the water there is an empty bottle. If you can refill it how?