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Imp's More Complex Needs
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 5:33pm
Feb 9, 2013 @ 6:59pm
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See the Discussions tab for the full ReadMe, FAQ, Changelog, and notes on creating compatibility patches for other mods.

IMCN is a realistic hunger/thirst/sleep mod for Skyrim. It assigns real world nutrition information to all foods, giving each item its own strengths and weaknesses, and adding a large array of new stats in addition to the usual hunger/thirst/sleep.

There are two modes available, Basic and More Complex. The general idea is to make it pretty basic to keep your hunger, thirst and sleep taken care of, to avoid penalties. Enable More Complex mode and you'll have additional stats to keep track of, but the potential to earn stat bonuses by taking better care of your character.

More Complex mode keeps track of:

Satiation - Penalties if greater than 100%, increases when eating
Calories - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Hydration - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Sleep - Penalties if greater than 100% (8 hours)
Blood (if you're a vampire) - Penalties if less than 0%, bonuses for high levels
Protein - Penalties if less than 75%, Bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 8 hours)
Nutrients - Penalties if less than 75%, bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 3 days)
Alcohol - Penalties and bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Caffeine - Bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Moon Sugar - Bonus depending on level (none for 0%)
Mental Fatigue - Penalties to magicka if greater than 0%, increases as magicka is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Physical Fatigue - Penalties to maximum stamina if greater than 0%, increases as stamina is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Morale - Bonuses if greater than 6.0, penalties if less than 4.0, increases or decreases depending on the appeal of the food you eat

Basic mode, which is similar to Fallout: New Vegas' Hardcore mode, keeps track of:

Blood (if you're a vampire)
Moon Sugar (skooma)

There's a great deal more to this mod than I can fit on this description page (there's a character limit) so check out the discussion tab, and the mod's Nexus page for additional compatibility patches, readme, and changelogs, and the Bethesda forums topic for the latest info on updates and planned features.

Nexus Page: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=10639
Bethesda Forums: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1440257-relz-imps-more-complex-needs-3/

Basic Tips

Try to keep your hunger and thirst above 0, shoot for above 100% for both after a meal.
Eat before fast traveling if you find you're arriving too hungry.
Ride a horse. This will conserve calories and water, and give you a chance to recover from fatigue.
USE THE TIMESCALE ADJUSTER. It can be enabled and configured in the config menu.
Check out the +IMCN Conditions+ menu to get an idea of the kinds of penalties or bonuses provided.

IMCN supports SkyUI's Mod Configuration Menu (MCM). SkyUI is not a requirement for installation, but some configuration options will be unavailable without it.

The hotkey for checking your needs levels and using water sources require SKSE to be installed. SKSE is not a requirement for installing the mod, but the hotkey will not work without it.

Compatibility Patches for Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLCs are available:

Dawnguard: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126207204
Hearthfire: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126208965
Dragonborn: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126209574

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!

Before uninstalling, enter the foods section of your inventory and click the +IMCN Vitality+ item, go to "Actions" and pause by either clicking the Enable/Pause toggle button, or the Reset button. The button should read "Enabled/Pauses: Paused" when you're done. This will dispel all active effects, making it safe to uninstall without messing up your character's stats. Save, then uncheck the files from your load order.

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!
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Pandora 11 hours ago 
I use a mod that adds more meat (wolf meat, etc). I followed your Compatibility Patches thread, but all if did was crash when I tried to search a dead wolf for meat. I used TESEdit, but I still had green highlighted entries and red writing for the new meats in the patch I created.
Imp  [author] Dec 16 @ 11:02pm 
@Pandora - Running out of room in your load order? It is possible to merge, but re-merging for every release would get annoying.

@Major League Infidel - Click "N" if you have SKSE installed, or use the +More Complex Actions+ power, when you're near ripples, waterfalls, or a well, and it should give you the option to refill. There's a FAQ on the Discussions tab that goes into more detail on refilling.
Pandora Dec 16 @ 4:18pm 
Any chance of a complete edition, the main mod plus patches...
Buddie7171 Dec 14 @ 2:52pm 
What is the console command for water?
GenuinelyPolish Nov 28 @ 9:24pm 
I love this mod, really improves the gameplay, but I aswell faced crashes while trading, had something to do with a merchant's food, because it was seemless so long as I traded with a weapons dealer, but it would crash elsewise, I'm afaird I will have to uninstall, unless you intend to create a debug, which would be much appreciated.
ARZARNAR Nov 23 @ 1:32pm 
By debuffs I mean my two handed, blocking etc. have lower skill point things than normal and I have less magic and stamina.
ARZARNAR Nov 23 @ 1:30pm 
I'm having a interesting problem that I think has to do with this mod. After using this mod I uninstalled correctly with the instructions above but...I'm still having debuffs on my magika & stamina. If there is any way to fix this other than making a new game that would be great.
axenor-ale Nov 16 @ 7:12am 
Nice Mod, i really enjoyed it for a while, but i found an error which make the game crash everytime i trade food with seller or i pick up food from barrel, chest, etc
Not a big problem, was just to let you know my issues.
Kavvan Shrike Nov 11 @ 5:04pm 
If I wanted to make a spell that did a % of health/magika/stamina damage to an enemy and give it to the caster as well as slightly satisfying hunger/thirst/sleep what IMCN values would i need to acheive that?
Tommy Gun Gaming Nov 5 @ 7:36am 
I have SKY UI but the mod doesent appear on the MCM and it doesent work at ALL