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Imp's More Complex Needs
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 5:33pm
Feb 9, 2013 @ 6:59pm
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See the Discussions tab for the full ReadMe, FAQ, Changelog, and notes on creating compatibility patches for other mods.

IMCN is a realistic hunger/thirst/sleep mod for Skyrim. It assigns real world nutrition information to all foods, giving each item its own strengths and weaknesses, and adding a large array of new stats in addition to the usual hunger/thirst/sleep.

There are two modes available, Basic and More Complex. The general idea is to make it pretty basic to keep your hunger, thirst and sleep taken care of, to avoid penalties. Enable More Complex mode and you'll have additional stats to keep track of, but the potential to earn stat bonuses by taking better care of your character.

More Complex mode keeps track of:

Satiation - Penalties if greater than 100%, increases when eating
Calories - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Hydration - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Sleep - Penalties if greater than 100% (8 hours)
Blood (if you're a vampire) - Penalties if less than 0%, bonuses for high levels
Protein - Penalties if less than 75%, Bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 8 hours)
Nutrients - Penalties if less than 75%, bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 3 days)
Alcohol - Penalties and bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Caffeine - Bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Moon Sugar - Bonus depending on level (none for 0%)
Mental Fatigue - Penalties to magicka if greater than 0%, increases as magicka is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Physical Fatigue - Penalties to maximum stamina if greater than 0%, increases as stamina is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Morale - Bonuses if greater than 6.0, penalties if less than 4.0, increases or decreases depending on the appeal of the food you eat

Basic mode, which is similar to Fallout: New Vegas' Hardcore mode, keeps track of:

Blood (if you're a vampire)
Moon Sugar (skooma)

There's a great deal more to this mod than I can fit on this description page (there's a character limit) so check out the discussion tab, and the mod's Nexus page for additional compatibility patches, readme, and changelogs, and the Bethesda forums topic for the latest info on updates and planned features.

Nexus Page: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=10639
Bethesda Forums: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1440257-relz-imps-more-complex-needs-3/

Basic Tips

Try to keep your hunger and thirst above 0, shoot for above 100% for both after a meal.
Eat before fast traveling if you find you're arriving too hungry.
Ride a horse. This will conserve calories and water, and give you a chance to recover from fatigue.
USE THE TIMESCALE ADJUSTER. It can be enabled and configured in the config menu.
Check out the +IMCN Conditions+ menu to get an idea of the kinds of penalties or bonuses provided.

IMCN supports SkyUI's Mod Configuration Menu (MCM). SkyUI is not a requirement for installation, but some configuration options will be unavailable without it.

The hotkey for checking your needs levels and using water sources require SKSE to be installed. SKSE is not a requirement for installing the mod, but the hotkey will not work without it.

Compatibility Patches for Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLCs are available:

Dawnguard: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126207204
Hearthfire: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126208965
Dragonborn: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126209574

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!

Before uninstalling, enter the foods section of your inventory and click the +IMCN Vitality+ item, go to "Actions" and pause by either clicking the Enable/Pause toggle button, or the Reset button. The button should read "Enabled/Pauses: Paused" when you're done. This will dispel all active effects, making it safe to uninstall without messing up your character's stats. Save, then uncheck the files from your load order.

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!
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Sealop1 Oct 18 @ 3:16pm 
Why do i walk so damn slow
Imp  [author] Oct 18 @ 9:50am 
@ExtremeFruit - There's an option to force cannibalism in the MCM menu, but you need to have SkyUI installed (and NVSE for that). Here's links:


Not that I advocate cannibalism.

@eliterogue99 - I'm currently extremely busy, but it's on the to do list.

@Sealop - Thanks. I'm pretty excited about that feature, but I have a lot on my plate. This project, and that update in particular, really grew, and the code's sort of collapsing under its own weight.

ExtremeFruit Oct 13 @ 8:18am 
pleeeeeeeeeeeeaseeee make needs for cannibals
always hated that you couldnt be a cannibal until you got namiras ring
oldar Oct 10 @ 4:37pm 
Great immersion mod
eliterogue99 Oct 9 @ 3:29pm 
Is there any way to get the needs on a visual bar? Like the 3 bars for health and stuff? I enjoy the mod, but I have trouble keeping track of my needs.
Lance Dunsten Oct 5 @ 4:19am 
Great mod, it bring Skyrim to a new level. Had not been playing for a while and the reason to come back was for the experience of this mod. Great work!
Sealop1 Sep 14 @ 6:17pm 
But great mod
Sealop1 Sep 14 @ 6:17pm 
Please hurry up with the follwer needs
fedini872 Sep 9 @ 3:35am 
even more awesome, thanks for replying!!!
Imp  [author] Sep 9 @ 12:50am 
It also adds 4 bottles of water to your inventory to start, since the default game doesn't have it and you'd be out of luck if you suddenly had to start worrying about dehydration when you're at the bottom of some crypt.