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Imp's More Complex Needs
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 5:33pm
Feb 9, 2013 @ 6:59pm
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Compatibility Patches for Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLCs are available:

Dawnguard: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126207204
Hearthfire: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126208965
Dragonborn: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=126209574

This is a fairly realistic hunger/thirst/sleep mod for Skyrim. It assigns real world nutrition information to all foods, giving each item its own strengths and weaknesses, effecting a large array of new stats in addition to the usual hunger/thirst/sleep. It has support for SkyUI's MCM (mod configuration menu, see screenshots above) but SkyUI is not a requirement for installation. It also has a hotkey for checking your needs levels and using water sources, if you have SKSE installed. SKSE is not a requirement for installing the mod, but the hotkey will not work without it.

There are two modes available, Basic and More Complex. The general idea is to make it pretty basic to keep your hunger, thirst and sleep taken care of, to avoid penalties. Enable More Complex mode and you'll have additional stats to keep track of, but the potential to earn stat bonuses by taking better care of your character.

More Complex mode keeps track of:

Satiation - Penalties if greater than 100%, increases when eating
Calories - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Hydration - Penalties if less than 0%, increases when eating/drinking
Sleep - Penalties if greater than 100% (8 hours)
Blood (if you're a vampire) - Penalties if less than 0%, bonuses for high levels
Protein - Penalties if less than 75%, Bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 8 hours)
Nutrients - Penalties if less than 75%, bonuses for greater than 125% (based on running average over last 3 days)
Alcohol - Penalties and bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Caffeine - Bonuses depending on level (none for 0%)
Moon Sugar - Bonus depending on level (none for 0%)
Mental Fatigue - Penalties to magicka if greater than 0%, increases as magicka is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Physical Fatigue - Penalties to maximum stamina if greater than 0%, increases as stamina is expended, decreases when you sleep or rest
Morale - Bonuses if greater than 6.0, penalties if less than 4.0, increases or decreases depending on the appeal of the food you eat

Basic mode, which is a bit more like the New Vegas Hardcore mode, keeps track of:

Blood (if you're a vampire)
Moon Sugar (skooma)

There's a great deal more to this mod than I can fit on this description page (there's a character limit) so check out the mod's Nexus page for additional compatibility patches, readme, and changelogs, and the Bethesda forums topic for the latest info on updates and planned features.

Nexus Page: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=10639
Bethesda Forums: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1440257-relz-imps-more-complex-needs-3/

Basic Tips

Try to keep your hunger and thirst above 0, shoot for above 100% for both after a meal.
Eat before fast traveling if you find you're arriving too hungry.
Ride a horse. This will conserve calories and water, and give you a chance to recover from fatigue.
USE THE TIMESCALE ADJUSTER. It can be enabled and configured in the config menu.
Check out the +IMCN Conditions+ menu to get an idea of the kinds of penalties or bonuses provided.

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!

Before uninstalling, enter the foods section of your inventory and click the +IMCN Vitality+ item, go to "Actions" and pause by either clicking the Enable/Pause toggle button, or the Reset button. The button should read "Enabled/Pauses: Paused" when you're done. This will dispel all active effects, making it safe to uninstall without messing up your character's stats. Save, then uncheck the files from your load order.

!!!!! IMPORTANT !!!!!!
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Nova_Delphine 11 hours ago 
haha :)
Imp of the Perverse  [author] 11 hours ago 
Crap, I've been hacked by vegans.
Nova_Delphine 17 hours ago 
During the game it works fine but when i try to eat meat it crashes the game, also when I try to purchase any meat product from a vender it also crashes. This has started recently but it was working fine up until a few days ago.
Ori (Flitch) Mar 26 @ 3:55pm 
I have foudn there is no values for Meat pies, Or for the special drinks sold in Riften. All they do is restore Stamina or health.
Is that suppose to happen?
garrisonedGuardian Mar 18 @ 3:41pm 
Ignore that last comment. Turns out I was being dumb. Great mod!
garrisonedGuardian Mar 18 @ 3:37pm 
I love this mod so far, but whenever I try and drink I get a message that says "Player has no Use Lesser Water power"
Coldfire Mar 14 @ 12:34pm 
Hmmm, I downloaded this mod and all three compatability patches. I have all expansions and the load order is fine. In the game, all seems to work fine. I activate the mod, food & drink work properly, etc. However, I find that when I go to a merchant to try and buy food, I get a near instant CTD. Once or twice I've been able to buy one or two things and leave, but if I'm in the menu for more than about two seconds, it's a lost cause. Anyone experience this issue before?
Are there any known compatibilty issues with this mod? And is there going to be extra content?
Marmot Mar 8 @ 2:58am 
Thanks for your quick reply, I started a new game since and everything works fine so far. If others don't report a similar problem, it may just be the fault of some tangled up scripts corrupting my old save. The Fishing in skyrim mod stopped working too, after all...
Imp of the Perverse  [author] Mar 7 @ 9:59am 
sina_jax - The stats update slowly because of digestion time.

Marmot - Sounds like an error in the food names, the game'll crash if they get too long. I'll take a look at it.