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Gobekli Tepe predates even Agriculture, and is the oldest known man-made religious site on Earth, with an estimated date of construction at around 8000 BCE. Built in Turkey near the Syrian border, the site wasn't identified until the 1960's, when it was thought to be a Byzantine cemetery. Proper excavations on the site did not begin in earnest until 1995, when the true nature was revealed to be a neolithic religious site. Several of the large monolithic pillars, which were all quarried on site with flint tools and transported uphill with Neolithic technologies, feature animal motifs which are believed to be sacred. In whole, the site currently excavated is believed to be at least 300 metres in diameter, with excavations still ongoing and recovering more of the site. However, the site remains a key insight into human society of the period, having just emerged from the last Ice Age and slowly beginning the transition into an agricultural revolution which would ultimately give birth to civilisation. Ingame, Gobekli Tepe provides +2 Faith from every source of Stone and Marble worked by the city, and does not require a technology.

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The God Damn Mafia Mar 31 @ 7:04pm 
well to be honest m8 its estimated to be constructed around 12000BCE
Y'pahtalo Odh Dec 17, 2014 @ 6:47am 
I dunno about these wonders that are essentially pantheon beliefs. I think it's a little odd and probably imbalanced if stacked with the same pantheon or a complementing one. idk.
Pouakai  [author] Jun 1, 2014 @ 5:23am 
Well yeah, all of the other ones require you to have a technology unlocked before building them; this one doesn't.
DerEider Jun 1, 2014 @ 4:12am 
@Pouakai, query re assigning a Technology ? Do your other Wonders in general have Techs assigned ? If so, that could be the distinction as none of the others [I've done almost all at one time or another] have this problem.
DerEider Jun 1, 2014 @ 4:03am 
Understood. Thanks for your attention to this. I love your Wonder works and recommend them in Forums whenever someone is looking for a particular kind of wonder.
Pouakai  [author] Jun 1, 2014 @ 3:56am 
Ah, sorry. I misunderstood.

It could be an issue with not having a technology, since I have the wonder as not requiring anything as opposed to requiring Agriculture. But the Scout and Warrior are the same, and they seem to be related to the Ancient era just fine. Either way, adding in Agriculture as a prereq tech should solve the issue for you
DerEider May 31, 2014 @ 5:09pm 
@Pouakai, It is not an incompatibility with the PE mod that's the problem. Gobekli Tepe [GT] is not recognized as "ancient" in any mod combination I have tried. I try to build GT as often as possible for its early Faith benefits. However, whenever I am able to gain the "Monument to the Gods" Belief before building GT, I never get the 15% Production bonus.

My reference to Apshai's mod was not due to any incompatibility, but rather to point out that someone has figured out how to make "Pre-Ancient" Wonders that are recognized by Civ V as being "Ancient" without crashing the game. It IS an issue with your mod.
Pouakai  [author] May 31, 2014 @ 1:45pm 
While I try my best to ensure compatibility with mods, I'm not going to go out of my way to do so, epecially something as large as a Prehistoric Era mod. If the author of that mod wishes to ensure compaibity then he is more than welcome to do so, but the issue is not one with my mod.
DerEider May 31, 2014 @ 10:54am 
@Pouakai, btw using "Agriculture" as the hook for determining "Ancientism" would not work in cases where game-start is set prior to the "Ancient" Era {i.e., before Agriculture can be discovered}.
DerEider May 31, 2014 @ 10:41am 
What is "Ancient"
@Pouakai, Revisting the issue of whether Gobekli Tepe qualifies as "Ancient" or not, I recently played the updated "Prehistoric Era" mod by Apshai. Apshai seems to have been able to overcome the problem of having Wonders that predate the "Ancient Era".

The issue centers on the Pantheon Belief "Monument to the Gods" which applies a 15% production bonus to only "Ancient & Classical" Wonders . In Apshai's "Prehistoric Era" mod, this Belief worked for the Chieftain's Hut, Wunderwerk Cave, Theopetra Cave, Skara Brae and the Palace, all Wonders that may be constructed prior to the "Ancient" Era .
However, this was NOT true for Gobekli Tepe. ??

Should not this discrepancy be corrected ?? Certainly Gobekli Tepe must qualify as an "Ancient" Wonder !