The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking
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Oct 21, 2012 @ 1:33pm
Nov 19, 2012 @ 2:31pm
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Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking

This mod improves the stealth AI for followers, so they don't rush into combat before the enemy has fully detected the player. Followers will also unequip torches while sneaking. This will work with any follower who uses the default follower system, including followers added by other mods and even animals (if they use the default follower quest).

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I'm no longer active in supporting or maintaining my files on Steam Workshop. The latest versions of my mods, as well as my more recent mods, can be found on Nexus:

This mod changes follower behavior in two ways. These changes only occur while the player is sneaking. If the player is not sneaking, then the follower's behavior will be unchanged.

1) While the player is sneaking, the follower won't initiate combat with nearby hostiles until after the enemy has actually attacked. Once either the follower or the player is attacked, the follower will enter combat like normal.

2) If the follower has a torch equipped, they will unequip the torch while sneaking.

Note: If you give your follower a torch while they are already in sneak mode, they may choose to equip it. If you don't want them to use the torch, simply exit sneak mode, wait a few seconds, then re-enter sneak mode. This will trigger them to unequip the new torch.

After installing the mod, a new dialogue option ("Let's discuss stealth combat tactics...") will appear when you talk to your follower. Selecting this dialogue will assign your follower to one of the Better Stealth aliases. After this, you will have two options...normal combat behavior or the modified stealth combat behavior. YOU MUST SELECT THIS DIALOGUE OPTION BEFORE YOUR FOLLOWER WILL EXHIBIT THE STEALTH BEHAVIOR. You can choose to switch back and forth between these modes any time you talk to your follower. Followers who have been assigned to Better Stealth aliases will always unequip torches while sneaking no matter which combat mode they are in.

This mod is fully compatible with other mods that alter the NPCs such as Better Followers and Specialized Followers. It is also compatible with mods that alter the follower quest/dialogue such as UFO, EFF, or AFT.

UFO USERS: It may be necessary to reset the follower back to vanilla combat behavior (using the dialogue option) before dismissing them.

1) You must select the initial dialogue topic before your follower will exhibit the new stealth behavior.
2) If you dismiss your follower or have them wait, they will retain the chosen behavior the next time you ask them to follow (unless you clear the aliases).
3) You can have up to 25 followers assigned to Better Stealth aliases. If you exceed this number, a message box will come up asking you if you want to clear the aliases. Selecting "Yes" will clear all aliases. This means you will have to speak with any followers to reassign them.
4) For some reason, followers don't always put away their torch the first time you sneak after hiring them. This issue can be corrected by dismissing/rehiring them. It also seems to naturally correct itself after the first combat engagement.
5) Cicero and the Dark Brotherhood Initiates are already assigned permanent aliases, which don't count toward the twenty-five follower limit.

In addition to standard followers, a few quest followers have been given this modified behavior. The better stealth behavior has been added to Mercer Frey (during the quest Speaking with Silence) and Brynjolf & Karliah (during the quest Blindsighted). These quest followers will automatically exhibit the better stealth behavior and do not have the dialogue option to toggle the behavior on/off.

fg109 for helping me with the initial script.
DreamKing, JustinOther, and nbtc971 for the unequip torch script.
technowizard79 for script improvements.
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^ASoG.^WookieMate. Jul 19 @ 12:24am 
Sorry you won't see this but you really have made a big impact om my gaming and I appreciate it so much... and to all the other modders[??] out there who take time to share and prepare either for own or for publc use... I cannot access the nexus thingy or I would make it over and tell him, maybe one of you who does can ... Cheers and this is a great piece of work on my machine at least with 44 mods currently working together..... :)
^ASoG.^WookieMate. Jun 10 @ 1:12pm 
wow, what a difference this makes - my sincere thanks, gaming has taken on a new thrill -
and much less of an anger bank
ENGINEER ALF May 8 @ 10:02am 
Hi, Serana doesn't have the dialog option, where dawnguard memburs do.
gord_davies Jul 29, 2014 @ 8:00am 
outstanding mod! thank you! lidia is now very helpful instead of a PITA
[FtW]Fenrir[LS] May 31, 2014 @ 8:32am 
does it work with follower mods
Korsall Kaiser May 6, 2014 @ 5:05pm 
Forgot to come back and mention, it's working now for Meeko. I eventually got a CTD (Not from this mod I'm quite sure) and when I started back up I had the option.
Korsall Kaiser Apr 30, 2014 @ 12:23am 
Does it work on animals like Meeko?
123Rullh Apr 7, 2014 @ 9:15pm 
Im not getting the dialogue, but Im suspecting this might be because Im allready using a stealth mod which lets you either ask followers to silently kill enemies when ready, or on your signal
(a "power" granted as you pick the dialogue option which you have to "cast" on the ground close to a target thats in line of sight from either you or the follower.)

That being said, im pitching the idea of these two mods working in unison, as the follower stealth-kill mod doesnt modify ...."reckless"...follower behavior, and from what I can gather from reading here, this mod doesnt have the stealth-kill feature.

Maybe theres a chance to collaborate and merge the two into one awesome stealth-mod?

(unless such a version allready exists that is, I haven't really prowled nexus for it as I prefer the simplicity of the steam manager rather than faffing around with zips and data-folders. and yes, im lazy I know :P Still, figured i'd pitch the suggestion =) )
Mike Feb 16, 2014 @ 6:42am 
the dialogue doesnt appear :(
wraith Jan 15, 2014 @ 10:49am 
i just took their torches