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Pierre-Loup Sep 16, 2014 @ 12:27pm
Known issues with AMD graphics support
This list will be updated as needed when driver updates are rolled out
  • Black or flickering screen when fullscreen mode is enabled in certain games
  • Lower performance and hitching in games compared to desktop distributions
  • Crackling sound over HDMI
  • Graphics memory reported as -0GB in System information; this is a Steam bug with reporting memory amount and doesn't affect actual usage of the graphics memory
Last edited by Pierre-Loup; Sep 17, 2014 @ 12:43pm
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Shark Sep 16, 2014 @ 12:38pm 
Here are some issues which I've found:

Recording with ffmpeg, libav or recordmydesktop doesn't work with AMD graphics drivers in combination with SteamOS compositor. It does work when running games on the Gnome desktop or when using an Nvidia graphics card. Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfqmfhQ8rA
I have no idea what was causing the noise, though. That noise didn't come out of the speakers during the recording.

I also think Steam still lists the vram on AMD graphics cards as 0 gb, but I might be wrong there.
Last edited by Shark; Sep 16, 2014 @ 1:19pm
NECROMANCERFORLIFE Sep 16, 2014 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Shark:
Here are some issues which I've found:

Recording with ffmpeg, libav or recordmydesktop doesn't work with AMD graphics drivers in combination with SteamOS compositor. It does work when running games on the Gnome desktop. Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfqmfhQ8rA
I have no idea what was causing the noise, though.

I also think Steam still lists the vram on AMD graphics cards as 0 gb, but I might be wrong there.
yes vram is since steam is out for linux set at 0 gb and you still cannot check for driver updates.
AJSB Sep 16, 2014 @ 2:26pm 
If you find this irrelevant, erase message:


In ANY Linux distro, using a A6-5400K (with CPU at 3800 MHz, Turbo+APM+Cool'n'Quiet OFF, iGPU OC to 950MHz, RAM at 2133MHz) , L4D2 and TF2 stutter like crazy and are unplayable when using Catalyst.

This doesn't happen in Window$ where same HW plays those games extremelysmootly with High FPS.

Now the interesting thing is that in Linux, using latest Kernel and Open Source Radeon drivers instead of Catalyst, the same games ALSO play smoothly and apparently with very good frame rate only slightly inferior to Catalyst in Window$.

My conclusion is that must be a bug in Catalyst for Linux that makes the stuttering .
Unyieldingly Sep 16, 2014 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by AJSB:
If you find this irrelevant, erase message:


In ANY Linux distro, using a A6-5400K (with CPU at 3800 MHz, Turbo+APM+Cool'n'Quiet OFF, iGPU OC to 950MHz, RAM at 2133MHz) , L4D2 and TF2 stutter like crazy and are unplayable when using Catalyst.

This doesn't happen in Window$ where same HW plays those games extremelysmootly with High FPS.

Now the interesting thing is that in Linux, using latest Kernel and Open Source Radeon drivers instead of Catalyst, the same games ALSO play smoothly and apparently with very good frame rate only slightly inferior to Catalyst in Window$.

My conclusion is that must be a bug in Catalyst for Linux that makes the stuttering .


AMD told a reporter not to long ago they was not really going to do any thing for the catalyst on Linux unless Linux takes off
Shark Sep 16, 2014 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Doc Holliday:
AMD told a reporter not to long ago they was not really going to do any thing for the catalyst on Linux unless Linux takes off
What if Linux takes off without them?
Lyam Sep 16, 2014 @ 2:54pm 
Several issues:
1: Mouse disappears after ALT-Tabbing out of a game like Garry's Mod. It appears on the desktop, but it is gone in steam, and the steam overlay. I haven't tried Big Picture mode though, I'll update later with that when I get home. This does not happen with any other fullscreen application that I'm aware of. It is impossible to get back on unless I close the game.
1a) After closing Garry's mod and trying to open it again, I just get a black non-responsive screen. I have to CTRL+ALT+F2 to reboot in order to open the game again.
These problems are in both the beta and stable channels of Steam

2: Google Chrome buttons sort of screwed up/misaligned. The first tab for some reason has a 1/10 tab sliver which moves all the other tabs out of alignment. That means that to click "x" to close a tab, I have to click about 1/10 of a tab to the left of it.
3: Mouse flickering/distortion. It's pretty random, and very unpredictable.

System Hardware:
AMD A10-5800k @ stock
AMD Radeon R9 290 (reference cooler) @ stock
-DVI out 1920x1080 @ 120 Hz
Asrock FM2A75 Pro4-M (Hudson D3)
8GB DDR3 @ 2133
120GB Kingston Hyper-X SSD
4 TB WD HDD
Corsair HX 750 Watt PSU GOLD rated

System Software:
Kernel 3.13 + 3.17
Latest X from Xorg Edgers
BlueGoliath Sep 16, 2014 @ 2:57pm 
Thank God! I've been wanting to play L4D2 on my SteamOS for awhile now but can't because the AMD drivers suck so bad.

@OP i assume this is for ALL AMD GPUs, correct?
.dping Sep 16, 2014 @ 3:24pm 
L4D2 major input lag on my HD 5850, slight stuttering every so often but the input lag on SteamOS is horrible both streaming L4D2 and playing from SteamOS it self.

As you said, Black screen on NS2 on Startup. It seems to never get to where its computing shaders (which the game has to do when changing graphics settings or on first startup.

Every build I've done, after it should boot into steam OS, it seems to get stuck with a blank screen (or flashing blank screen) when the Steam EULA pops up, to which you cannot see. This is corrected with a few work-arounds I put on Reddit. the workaround basically toggles the lightdm to another interface, installs steam then you toggle it back to lightdm.

video card still shows -0 GB or VRAM, but that isn't really a core issue.

UVD (Unified Video Decoder) from AMD does not decode video like it should. its always using software from what I've seen. UVD should be supported in linux driver for the past few years (I could be wrong about this).

Crossfire support is non existant; but this is pretty much in the same boat with nVidia's SLI (which also doesn't work yet).

I've not been able to get dual display working nor to a know a work-around for it. this, ofcourse isn't a primary issue, but is one issue I'd like to mention since you've been great enough to post this topic!

Thanks Pierre-Loup! for putting a priority on this!


git good Sep 16, 2014 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by profoundWHALE:
2: Google Chrome buttons sort of screwed up/misaligned. The first tab for some reason has a 1/10 tab sliver which moves all the other tabs out of alignment. That means that to click "x" to close a tab, I have to click about 1/10 of a tab to the left of it.
I have radeon 7770.
Last edited by git good; Sep 17, 2014 @ 2:41pm
Lyam Sep 16, 2014 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by AJSB:
If you find this irrelevant, erase message:


In ANY Linux distro, using a A6-5400K (with CPU at 3800 MHz, Turbo+APM+Cool'n'Quiet OFF, iGPU OC to 950MHz, RAM at 2133MHz) , L4D2 and TF2 stutter like crazy and are unplayable when using Catalyst.

This doesn't happen in Window$ where same HW plays those games extremelysmootly with High FPS.

Now the interesting thing is that in Linux, using latest Kernel and Open Source Radeon drivers instead of Catalyst, the same games ALSO play smoothly and apparently with very good frame rate only slightly inferior to Catalyst in Window$.

My conclusion is that must be a bug in Catalyst for Linux that makes the stuttering .
I have the same problem with my integrated graphics when using catalyst. I read somewhere something about enabling color tiling?... something helps it but I can't find it anymore.

However, when running with open source drivers everything is buttery smooth! Things like motion blurring or AA just kill performance though. I can also overclock my iGPU to ridiculous levels. I went as high as my BIOS would let me and the thing actually booted. Most games crashed sure, but hey, it was interesting.

Note: I had these issues whether I was running my RAM at 2133, or 2400; my iGPU @ auto (800) or 950. And a note to overclockers, I find that making sure your RAM is faster than your iGPU keeps the overclock stable enough most of the time. As in, I could run an iGPU overclock @ about 1169 if I had my DDR3 at 2400 (which is 1200 x 2). That being said, I think it needed a voltage bump and I have a nice cooler on my CPU.

EDIT: Reminder, I'm talking about an A10-5800k on Hudson D3
Last edited by Lyam; Sep 16, 2014 @ 4:53pm
AJSB Sep 16, 2014 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by profoundWHALE:
Originally posted by AJSB:
If you find this irrelevant, erase message:


In ANY Linux distro, using a A6-5400K (with CPU at 3800 MHz, Turbo+APM+Cool'n'Quiet OFF, iGPU OC to 950MHz, RAM at 2133MHz) , L4D2 and TF2 stutter like crazy and are unplayable when using Catalyst.

This doesn't happen in Window$ where same HW plays those games extremelysmootly with High FPS.

Now the interesting thing is that in Linux, using latest Kernel and Open Source Radeon drivers instead of Catalyst, the same games ALSO play smoothly and apparently with very good frame rate only slightly inferior to Catalyst in Window$.

My conclusion is that must be a bug in Catalyst for Linux that makes the stuttering .
I have the same problem with my integrated graphics when using catalyst. I read somewhere something about enabling color tiling?... something helps it but I can't find it anymore.

However, when running with open source drivers everything is buttery smooth! Things like motion blurring or AA just kill performance though. I can also overclock my iGPU to ridiculous levels. I went as high as my BIOS would let me and the thing actually booted. Most games crashed sure, but hey, it was interesting.

Note: I had these issues whether I was running my RAM at 2133, or 2400; my iGPU @ auto (800) or 950. And a note to overclockers, I find that making sure your RAM is faster than your iGPU keeps the overclock stable enough most of the time. As in, I could run an iGPU overclock @ about 1169 if I had my DDR3 at 2400 (which is 1200 x 2). That being said, I think it needed a voltage bump and I have a nice cooler on my CPU.

EDIT: Reminder, I'm talking about an A10-5800k on Hudson D3


AFAIK, colorTiling is related with 2D graphics. If your HW plays well movies, don't worry about it even with OSS driver.

OTOH, HyperZ enabling is a MUST for the Radeon OSS driver when using graphics 3D (i.e. games).

I forgot to mention that i enable HyperZ when using Radeon OSS driver.
I use AA and still get a good performance from this little APU.

Because i heard about enable it in two different ways, do this in command line:

export R600_HYPERZ=1
export R600_DEBUG=hyperz


One of them is correct so i use both :))

...or you can edit:
your_account_name/.profile
...and add those two lines to it...this way when (re)boot, HyperZ will be enabled by default :)


PS:
As for OC these APUs, they all seem to accept go up to 950MHz and some to 1014 or 1020 MHz but i always stop at 950MHz.

I also DOWNVOLT CPU, iGPU *and* RAM, no problems whatsoever for doing so. ...but i'm not trully OC the CPU part, so, no wonder.

I don't let ANY of those in AUTO....maaybe because of that i don't have problems ?
Using a AsRock FM2A88X-ITX+ MoBo with 8GB @ 2133MHz G.Skill DDR3.
2.5" HDD of 500GB but soon a 2TB one.

All inside a case 218x200x56mm with skived copper HS and using only a single fan, a Cooler Master Blade 80 (80x80x25mm PWM).
Fan almost touches side panel of case and i made a perfect 70mm circular hole in it and fan sucks fresh air without hot air feedback....very low temps and to avoid noize i use the following profile:

30C 10%
40C 40%
50C 70%
60C 100%
Last edited by AJSB; Sep 16, 2014 @ 5:46pm
cordoba47 Sep 17, 2014 @ 5:36am 
Radeon R7, catalyst driver (fglrx), Ubuntu 14.04, amd64: Metro Last Light invariably crashes before even reaching the main screen.
NeptNutz Sep 17, 2014 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by .dping:
Every build I've done, after it should boot into steam OS, it seems to get stuck with a blank screen (or flashing blank screen) when the Steam EULA pops up, to which you cannot see.

+1 on this issue right now.

BOARD: ASUS P8H77-M/CSM
CPU: i5-3570 3.4 GHz
GPU: MSI Radeon R9 270 (OC Edition)
MONITOR: Acer AL1916W (1440x900) via DVI

UPDATE
Okay that was too easy. (especially for me!)

I hot unplugged the DVI and hot plugged HDMI. No luck.

Then I just power-cycled to reboot. It rebooted in verbose mode, Steam came back in the desktop, did an update, and some kind of kernel configuration.

It rebooted verbose again (first with kernel mods this time, I believe), flashed the light-purple splash logo this time, did a Clonezilla in text mode, and landed on a 'Choose mode' screen of poweroff, reboot, cmd, etc.

I chose 'reboot'. It shutdown verbose, rebooted silent, splash logo--[....then a long wait.....]--screen flickered, and BOOM - The Big Picture Sploosh!
(No sound. That was b/c of the HDMI hot plug earlier. Fixed it in Settings.)

I'm up and running!

I did a reboot, just for the Whoosh!

Last edited by NeptNutz; Sep 17, 2014 @ 10:23am
NeptNutz Sep 17, 2014 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by cordoba47:
Radeon R7, catalyst driver (fglrx), Ubuntu 14.04, amd64: Metro Last Light invariably crashes before even reaching the main screen.

+1 here.

The opening movie ran okay...in a lobed, stuttering sort of way. Once it got to the opening 'Press Any Key' splash screen, it locked up hard!

I downloaded Serious Sam 3: BFE since that's hardware heavy too. Nothing to write home about--especially for an i5 and R9 270 @1440x900. It was a nice, bumpy 30-40 fps. V-Sync or FMV at ultra settings jam it up.

Both these games run consistenly well on my official Steambox with a Phenom 9150e 1.8 GHz and GTX 660 @1080p. It's still the place to play them.
Last edited by NeptNutz; Sep 17, 2014 @ 2:28pm
Unyieldingly Sep 17, 2014 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by Shark:
Originally posted by Doc Holliday:
AMD told a reporter not to long ago they was not really going to do any thing for the catalyst on Linux unless Linux takes off
What if Linux takes off without them?
who know's it's AMD hell they don't fix bug's in the catalyst for Windows as well i seen some bugs for windows that have been around for like 3 years they do a lot more for the catalyst on Windozes but it's crappy too
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