Valve needs to keep it's promises. Period. Hold them accountable.

I do and do not agree with the points that walking_target has made in his arguements for the L4D2 Boycott. Confused? Don't be. Allow me to elaborate:

1) The arguement that Valve has not kept its promises to their loyal customers regarding the release of new content for L4D is correct; we are fully justified in our righteous anger.

2) The arguement that the source code that makes up L4D2 has not had changes made to it that could not be handed out as an update to the current L4D source code is wholly INCORRECT. Although I do not work at Valve, I am in college for video game design/programming (graduate in March, take note Valve!) and have an understanding how the Havok Engine that L4D uses works. The kind of base gameplay changes that L4D2 claims to offer WOULD, in fact, require (for proper operation) a whole new game to be coded and produced. After all, what gamer wants DLC that crashes your game's source engine in mid-game? No one, that's who. Over all? I am with you.

@below, that's exactly why it was banned. It still doesn't make sense, of course. What, because we can shoot limbs off zombies, we're all expected to run around with guns shooting people on the streets to achieve a similar effect?

Gov's can go eff themselves. They think we don't know better/

I heard it got the refusal because of the more 'realistic' limb damage. Or w/e - But apparently the fact Zombies will still run at you even after you blow an arm off.

Rather than in L4D, when it was Lethal.

Could be wrong.. I hardly pay attention to L4D2 anyway.

Can they really stop us from buying l4d2 on steam thow? if it gets banned im so gonna murder someone

One more reason for L4D2 to be delaye for another year or two, which of course it should be.

Government here can't handle videogames or jokes at all. Not that' I'd planned to get L4D2 anyway, but still, that's not going to stop Aussies getting it off Steam one way or another.

The more forbidden something is, the more people will want their hands on it.

I think the reason for Aus banning L4D2 is the introduction of the meele weapons. To my knowledge, that is what their ratings group think is to violent. I imagine that Valve will release a cut version for use in Aus.

I find it hard to believe that other countries are more strict that us when it comes to violence and forced ratings, but so be it. cheers down unda though, you guys will help the boycott cause. how many millions play l4d in australia? lol nice move valve

Sucks for good ol' Aussies. But what exactly was wrong with the current 'L4D' level of violence that had to be ramped up by valve?

It's not like the Austrailian government just refused the game 'because we don't like it', but due to the violence. If L4D already passed (their standards) and thats fairly violent, then what exactly is L4D2 doing? Making zombies bleed out (??? - They're already dead, blood clotting) on every shot?

Playing L4D I don't find it's the blood or the violence that is the key thing that is massively missing from the game, Valve...