Gooddog Feb 7, 2013 @ 4:12am
Tom Clancys Ghost Recon 1 and OTHER unresolved flawed games ! Screw the consumers!
So after countless problems with GRAW1, after purchasing both GRAW 1 & 2 from Steam, I replaced my video card. I interrupted GRAW 2 to go finish GRAW 1, and then I got to level 6, where game crashing with me stuck in the floor of a vehicle looking up at the sky through the ground, twitching like an epileptic, brainless liberal zombie.

I tried support [ Steampowered ], and tried searching inside and outside the community, and find NO support or solution. So my purchase of GRAW 1 & 2 without the KNOWN crash issues, was ignored by Steam, and even hidden in search engines. This is not the first time I have felt cheated because Steam takes these flawed titles, and profits by selling these games complete with bugs and crashes included. So I was unable to complete GRAW1 !

If Steam was RESPONSIBLE enough to RESPOND to consumers and REFUND defective titles like Tom Clancys' Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1, and felt the profit loss, maybe they would stop selling broken merchandise ! 'Steampowered' should be re-named
'ScrewYouAllSalesFinalSucker!'. It was bad enough just searching for Quake fixes after they were finally available post Win98 ! BUYER BEWARE- There are NO guarentees at Steam. except that they will sell you broken games and bury search results when you try to find out KNOWN ISSUES!
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Spawn of Totoro Feb 7, 2013 @ 6:16am 
Steam did not make the game and does not offer supprot for 3rd party games. I suggest asking the developer/publisher for support since it is their responsibility.

It's like you are going into wat-mart and demanding they fix the game because you bought it there.

O'h, and the game runs fine for me and several of my friends.
Gooddog Feb 7, 2013 @ 11:00am 
As I may have stated elsewhere ; I was able to play without a hitch until LEVEL 6, and THEN it was stuck in a permanent glitch at the start of that level. I believe I already tried the Aegia download, but am trying it again, Obi Wan Kenobi ( you are my only hope). Oh, and aegia just informed me of the 32 bit error..so i will try again for 64 bit-thanks.

Originally posted by bloodraven43:
im pretty sure graw and graw 2 installed ageia physics into there games...if you have an nvidia graphics card the fix is easy...find the old ageia sdk drivers like 2.3.2 to 2.7.1 or more....download and copy and paste all missing ageia drivers missing in here

C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Engine

then the game will work correctly...took me days to find these drivers cause of the usa and piracy...they closed up alot sites and they have no clue that some of these files are needed to fix these broken games...thats life right...lol

btw also you might want to try going into your steam game file and making it compatible with winxp sp2...and admin rights but sometimes with steam when you do that...the game says it cant find steam...what a broken world gaming is anymore...lol

here i made it easy for you

http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDownload/AGEIA-PhysX-Driver-71113-Download-46209.html

btw instead of giving up and getting ♥♥♥♥ed off ...like my mama said...seek and you shall find
My Mama told me the same thing, but computers are as foreign to her as volume control on her TV remote, or any command on her cell phone ( if she can remeber where she placed either one). In one of my posts today, I explained the frustration searching for solutions from AMD, Steam, Physics drivers not related to my own, etc. I also tried backward compatibility, but computers have destroyed gaming, which you also stated.
I appreciate your response, and will see if your link is as easy as you describe, but as I said, I have AMD, and STEAM should have specific solutions categorized and available if they are to sell games WITH the flaws included anyway. Gosh, I miss board games, good pre-social-media- manners , and the analog world !!
[dirrty]gsharp Feb 7, 2013 @ 11:25am 
*shakes his head*
Buck213 Feb 22, 2013 @ 12:48pm 
I would not buy an Nvidia card for GRAW 1 if you have Vista/7 as Nvidia cards cause freezes on multiplayer map loads on Vista/7. Search the web if you would like more info on this.

About your GRAW 1 crash, does the game actually crash or do you just fall through the floor? Can you still use the menu to exit the game? Do you fall through the ground in multiplayer maps also?

As for GRAW 2, both the retail and steam versions crash quite often for everyone I have ever known. I would average that if a group of us played at least 1 of us would crash every hour.
WhiteKnight77 Feb 23, 2013 @ 12:43pm 
GRAW is not Ghost Recon 1. GRAW/GRAW2 was developed by now defunct GRIN. Ghost Recon was created by Red Storm Entertainment and runs great on my Core i7 with a GTX 285.

I can't tell you what to do to get GRAW to run properly, but if you go be http://www.ghostrecon.net, you should be able to find some help with getting the game to run. I am not sure, but one of the former GRIN devs (Wolfsong) may still hang around and could possibly help. He also was big on giving help to modders wanting to mod GRAW.
Gooddog Feb 24, 2013 @ 5:33am 
No- I stated Visiontek RADEON ( I tried Nvidea...duh?)
2. The game stops responding as Level 6 starts after loading. The mouse stos responding, after I crash to the floor looking up, and the view shakes as I am looking up ( without even touching the mouse.
I could just repeat everything I posted previously, but I have to wonder why you would respond if you didn't even read my post to understand what you are responding to.
Yes, games crash ( I mentioned Fallout 3 becuase it is graphically richer and detailed, and crashes, but if you restart and move a different direction, or start from before that point, it's fine.
I bought both GRAWS, and had trouble in earlier levels of GRAW1 until my Graph card upgrade.
Even Fallout 3 was a huge improvement.
THIS IS MY POINT : If Steam ( or any third party ) sells a product, they should ensure it is playable if your machine meets minimum requirements. No, AMD, and Relic have no solutions, and ONLINE SEARCHES do not describe my issue, THAT is why I posted ! mAYBE YOU NEED TO Read WHAT you are responding to. I am tired of repeating what I ALREADY posted.

Originally posted by Buck213:
I would not buy an Nvidia card for GRAW 1 if you have Vista/7 as Nvidia cards cause freezes on multiplayer map loads on Vista/7. Search the web if you would like more info on this.

About your GRAW 1 crash, does the game actually crash or do you just fall through the floor? Can you still use the menu to exit the game? Do you fall through the ground in multiplayer maps also?

As for GRAW 2, both the retail and steam versions crash quite often for everyone I have ever known. I would average that if a group of us played at least 1 of us would crash every hour.
Gooddog Feb 24, 2013 @ 5:38am 
Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
GRAW is not Ghost Recon 1. GRAW/GRAW2 was developed by now defunct GRIN. Ghost Recon was created by Red Storm Entertainment and runs great on my Core i7 with a GTX 285.

I can't tell you what to do to get GRAW to run properly, but if you go be http://www.ghostrecon.net, you should be able to find some help with getting the game to run. I am not sure, but one of the former GRIN devs (Wolfsong) may still hang around and could possibly help. He also was big on giving help to modders wanting to mod GRAW.

Unbelievable ! No sh_t ! I clearly stated I upgraded Graph Card. ALSO, I CLEARLY STATED the issue is NOT with GRAW 2. I also CLEARLY stated that when I first got GRAW1 &2 from steam, when 1 had video glitches and freeze ups, but GRAW2 played, I switched out the card, and was able to play without a problem UNTIL level 6, and..oh forget it, GO read what you think you are responding to Numb nuts!
Gooddog Feb 24, 2013 @ 5:57am 
I've had problems with Steam offered games. The game descriptions never stae 'as is' like an ebay ad. I made the point comparing computer games to a tangible board game, kids : If I bought a deck of cards, cards don't crash. If i bought Monopoly, and it stopped at the jail space, I'd return it for a wORKING version.
I was thrilled when Steam offered the Quake series ( even older than GRAW) and add on pack issues were searchable and reparable. SINCE Steam sells games third party, or not, shouldn't I have an expectation of playable worthiness? Shouldn't the game developers or license owners support what is still being sold by them?
I know you are a kid. Todays consumer has no rights or expectations anymore. Guarentees are usually empty promises. We now live in an age, when, if the country is going bankrupt, businesses are failing, CEO's, banks, and politicians in office still get raises, bonuses, tax increases, and the president rresponsible for the majority of the debt gets re-elected by idiots who ignore tha facts. Log into Ebay, kid, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya.
Buck213 Feb 24, 2013 @ 12:50pm 
As for my posting of nvidia some had a post in here telling you to buy one that I can see they removed, as for the rest I was trying to clarify and see if your problem was similiar to a problem I have fixed multiple times for people before, but with your attitude you can enjoy your crashes, and I hope you get more of them.
WhiteKnight77 Feb 24, 2013 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by Gooddog:
Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
GRAW is not Ghost Recon 1. GRAW/GRAW2 was developed by now defunct GRIN. Ghost Recon was created by Red Storm Entertainment and runs great on my Core i7 with a GTX 285.

I can't tell you what to do to get GRAW to run properly, but if you go be http://www.ghostrecon.net, you should be able to find some help with getting the game to run. I am not sure, but one of the former GRIN devs (Wolfsong) may still hang around and could possibly help. He also was big on giving help to modders wanting to mod GRAW.

Unbelievable ! No sh_t ! I clearly stated I upgraded Graph Card. ALSO, I CLEARLY STATED the issue is NOT with GRAW 2. I also CLEARLY stated that when I first got GRAW1 &2 from steam, when 1 had video glitches and freeze ups, but GRAW2 played, I switched out the card, and was able to play without a problem UNTIL level 6, and..oh forget it, GO read what you think you are responding to Numb nuts!
I did read what you wrote, hence me telling you were to find help to get past where you are stuck at in the game due to bugs and whatnot. If you don't want the help, well, p*** off.

How do you expect GRIN to support GRAW now that the company no longer exists? I don't know if you have played many Ubi games in the past, but they are notorious for not supporting games compared to how they used to. Ubi no longer cares about it's customers and keeps releasing garbage. Their GOTY franchises have been ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ized and are not worth the money or the time to play them.
Gooddog Feb 25, 2013 @ 11:20am 
My attitude? The earlier responses only explain Nvidia was compared and summarily rejected.
I respond to comments in kind- point by point. No one enjoys crashes, and I wouldn't wish them on anyone. I have tried many solutions, including the simplest, common sense solutions. So my good attitude sometimes brings negative comments. That is just the nature of the Internet.
As far as clarification, I already clarified, so get off your high horse and recognize I get to the point, and anticipated that you would overlook the details. Have fun.

Originally posted by Buck213:
As for my posting of nvidia some had a post in here telling you to buy one that I can see they removed, as for the rest I was trying to clarify and see if your problem was similiar to a problem I have fixed multiple times for people before, but with your attitude you can enjoy your crashes, and I hope you get more of them.
Gooddog Feb 25, 2013 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
Originally posted by Gooddog:

Unbelievable ! No sh_t ! I clearly stated I upgraded Graph Card. ALSO, I CLEARLY STATED the issue is NOT with GRAW 2. I also CLEARLY stated that when I first got GRAW1 &2 from steam, when 1 had video glitches and freeze ups, but GRAW2 played, I switched out the card, and was able to play without a problem UNTIL level 6, and..oh forget it, GO read what you think you are responding to Numb nuts!
I did read what you wrote, hence me telling you were to find help to get past where you are stuck at in the game due to bugs and whatnot. If you don't want the help, well, p*** off.

How do you expect GRIN to support GRAW now that the company no longer exists? I don't know if you have played many Ubi games in the past, but they are notorious for not supporting games compared to how they used to. Ubi no longer cares about it's customers and keeps releasing garbage. Their GOTY franchises have been ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ized and are not worth the money or the time to play them.

OH, well, then you DID get my point ! No need for arrogance. I don't CARE that Grin no longer exists- STEAM sells games then with NO SUPPORT available for games with a HISTORY of failure- THAT is ALSO what compelled me to create this thread. I have played enough games to be frustrated- that's all. If STEAM is seling UbiSoft, grin, or ID games, THEY should provide support. No need for your attitude with me. My replies may seem hard, but that is because most people don't need to reply if all they have are the simple, logical, common sense suggestions any fool would know to start with. That would make ME just such a Fool. Now read between the lines at my statements. Notice how I compare [analog] board games dependability to computer games that are obsolete within a year? You don't see the sarcastic humor?
I try to search for reviews of games, and issues before i make a purchase, but negative reviews and comments can often diappear relatively quickly. Companies don't care if their crap is flawed, they're all in it for the money. They sell two legged chairs and get away with it- and THAT is wrong. Are you starting to see what I am getting at? Wrong is just wrong, people.
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