A Spooky Ghost May 12 @ 9:49pm
Steam's stance on greenlight devs violating copyright?
The game Paranautical Activity is using sounds in defiance of their copyright status, including some with noncommercial rights. My earlier attempt to discuss this in the forum resulted in the mods banning me for "defamation" and deleting every single post I had made in the PA forum since September, the former of which only saw reversal once the forum began to complain about this and admins higher up in the chain of command came in.

Please note that this isn't a case of one or two audio files; this is a case of nearly, or all, the audio in the game which isn't music violating copyright.

For the record, here's a full list of my attempts to track each sound to the origin. All sounds were unpacked from the asset files.

WAV format audio

bubloo.wav = Is either a distorted version of http://www.freesound.org/people/murraysortz/sounds/192501/ or a composite of it and one other sound. As I can't identify the potential other component, I can only say that sound that is being used is: Attribution License. This one appears to be fine, provided credit is given.

chargeBow.wav = http://www.freesound.org/people/soundstack/sounds/77082/ This is where the problems start. This is an attribution, non-commercial license. SpooderW is not permitted to use this sound or anything derived from this sound in a commercial venture. Not legally.

bowfire.wav = Possibly http://www.freesound.org/people/Erdie/sounds/65734/?page=1#comment . This is an attribution license. However it may be ripped from Minecraft. Origin unclear.

explosion.wav = As near as I can tell it's an edited (slightly sped up) version of this: http://www.freesound.org/people/ryansnook/sounds/110115/ Attribution Non-Commercial. That being said there are many candidates for what this sound is from and I can't guarantee I'm right on this one.

gun gun gun.wav = The origin of this is unclear. There are somewhat similar sounds, but nothing that sounds close enough for me to even be sure they could be related.

gun item sound = http://www.freesound.org/people/EverydaySounds/sounds/125074/ This is under a "Sampling Plus 1.0" term. This requires attribution. It is okay to use an edited version of this sound for commercial purposes.

hit = http://www.freesound.org/people/Abyssmal/sounds/35213/ Another Sampling Plus 1.0. This requires attribution.

Laser.wav = http://www.freesound.org/people/mazk1985/sounds/187406/ Sound is: Attribution License

M14 Other Other = The origin of this is unclear as it's a fairly generic sound and there's a 2 minute long compilation of gunshots in that list of results. However odds are it at least requires an attribution. That being said as I can't source it, I can't say for sure.

pickup = Another unclear origin (these unclear ones are due to the length of time of the sounds and how generic they are).

rev down/rev up = These sounds are from http://www.freesound.org/people/daveincamas/sounds/25591/. Attribution license.

rocket sound = http://www.freesound.org/people/qubodup/sounds/182794/ This is public domain.

shotgun-old_school-RA_The_Sun_God-1129942741 = As discussed earlier this is an attribution lisence.

slice = Appears to be http://www.freesound.org/people/lmbubec/sounds/118792/, which is public domain. It may be derived from http://www.freesound.org/people/qubodup/sounds/184422/, which is an attribution license. Due to the duration and sound quality I can't quite tell.

spinning = This one is difficult because it appears to be a mashup of a few sounds. However one of those sounds may be an extract from http://www.freesound.org/people/Robinhood76/sounds/161434/ with knife cut sounds overlaid. This is an attributional noncommercial license. However due to the heavily edited nature of the sound I can't say with total certainty it's involved, so take this with a grain of salt.

thunk = Again due to short duration I can't say with certainty but this seems to be http://www.freesound.org/people/LeMudCrab/sounds/163458/. If so it's public domain.

use = Another extremely short one. May be http://www.freesound.org/people/cormi/sounds/93979/, which is public domain.



OGG Format:

ammo pickup: There are several candidates for what this is sourced from.

armor pickup: http://www.freesound.org/people/timgormly/sounds/170964/ This is an attribution piece.

bomb pickup: I think this may be the same source as the crossbow stretch, but due to duration I can't tell for sure.

coin pickup: Tail end of http://www.freesound.org/people/timgormly/sounds/162805/. Public domain.

death sound: http://www.freesound.org/people/jobro/sounds/46415/ Attribution.

door close: http://www.freesound.org/people/krcrawley/sounds/94753/. Sampling Plus, which means it must be attributed.

door open: http://www.freesound.org/people/skyumori/sounds/104533/ Sampling Plus, which means it must be attributed.

fuse: http://www.freesound.org/people/j1987/sounds/140715/ Public domain.

health pickup: Due to the duration this could be from many things.

hurt: http://www.freesound.org/people/Under7dude/sounds/163441/. Public domain, but amusingly someone else is commenting about it being in Paranautical Activity. Can anybody confirm if this is "stolen" from the minecraft beta as the comments allege?

item sound: http://www.freesound.org/people/pycckuu20032003/sounds/85245/. Sampling Plus, which means it must be attributed.




Nothing has been attributed and there are noncommercial clauses for some. The devs only comment on this has been that they'll change them later, but that doesn't change that they've been making cash off of other peoples work unfairly via Steam since September 2013.

Edit: Entire history of devs audio download here: http://www.freesound.org/people/spooderw/downloaded_sounds/?page=1#sound
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Satoru May 12 @ 10:15pm 
http://steamcommunity.com/app/250580/discussions/0/540741131152645803/

4. There are no copyright infringements in Paranautical Activity. Sounds are placeholders from a free to use site.. Bottom line, no legality there. Sounds are being replaced before the game drops. As was always the intention.

Stop spamming your nonsense everywehre
A Spooky Ghost May 12 @ 10:24pm 
Originally posted by Satoru:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/250580/discussions/0/540741131152645803/

4. There are no copyright infringements in Paranautical Activity. Sounds are placeholders from a free to use site.. Bottom line, no legality there. Sounds are being replaced before the game drops. As was always the intention.

Stop spamming your nonsense everywehre

That's demonstrably false though. Almost every sound is infringing copyright by not being attributed or in select cases used in a commercial environment. Even the free to use site has these notices and guidelines for use up.
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Tito Christmas May 13 @ 2:50am 
No need for multiple threads on the subject.
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