Warsmith Gwydion Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:21pm
Where have all the good real time strategy games gone?
Short and simple... I can't find any RTS games that I like lately. If anyone has one they think they know of thats even semi decent and think I might not have it (good luck but try anyway to help me out!) drop its name. I don't consider dota 2 run offs and things like a valley without wind to be strategy games either... Yes I know they require strategy, but im talking the really old GOOD ol RTS games age of empires 2 dune 2, dawn of war, spellforce etc. If you read this and seriously think you know a RTS game thats a true gem fire away.... because until CoH 2 (hopefully) or Warhammer Total War and/or Rome 2. I'm looking pretty S.O.L here.
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MasacruAlex Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:46pm 
they just dont make em anymore sadly, coh2 might do it and well rome 2, but i miss as well games like aoe 2 (Aoe 2 being my all time fav) Why can't they remake rise of nations?

Sudden strike series are all amazing.
rise of nations (told already above :D)
Hidden Stroke 2 (Kinda like sudden strike)
Battle Realms (with the expansion)
the classic settlers =D


Quick fact about aoe 2 some new expansion got released for it (a mod) will be trying it, it looks promissing, also it got supported on GameRanger which is the haven of RTS games, aoe 2 has over 140 servers on it right now.
http://www.forgottenempires.net/
V10Club Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:56pm 
I'm waiting on CoH 2, Rome 2, Planetary Annihilation, and hoping the new F2P C&C coming out is good and not pay to win.

Planetary Annihilation.

http://planetaryannihilation.com/

It exceeded its kickstarter goal and looks amazing.
MasacruAlex Mar 4, 2013 @ 3:58pm 
oh yeah planetary! that one, forgot about it, can't wait for it!
V10Club Mar 4, 2013 @ 4:02pm 
Oh there's the new SC2 coming out what next week was it?

It looks good. My favorite RTS games: Traditional base building Starcraft, Command & Conquer, etc. Never gets old.

PS: Have you played World in Conflict? If not you can get the complete pack for cheap. Highly recommended.
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Ûvatha Mar 4, 2013 @ 4:49pm 
The genre doesn't generate enough sales and you can't play them on consoles very well. They even stopped developing Age of Empire Online. I wonder if Command and Conquer Generals 2 will be succesfull.

However there are still a few left like:
Supreme Commander
RUSE
Earth 2160
Hegemony
Star Wars: Empire at War
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MayhemMike Mar 4, 2013 @ 5:38pm 
Try AI War, looks like a 4x game but it is a hardcore difficult RTS game.
V10Club Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by Ûvatha:
The genre doesn't generate enough sales and you can't play them on consoles very well. They even stopped developing Age of Empire Online. I wonder if Command and Conquer Generals 2 will be succesfull.

However there are still a few left like:
Supreme Commander
RUSE
Earth 2160
Hegemony
Star Wars: Empire at War

That just isn't true. At all.

The Total War series is a million + seller. It has half the budget and marketing massive AAA console games do so it doesn't need to sell 5 million copies just to break even. Creative Assembly is growing and in fact SEGA has said they are one of the driving forces behind their profit.

Football Manager is another huge game that SEGA is investing heavily in because of how important it is to their bottom line.

The Dawn of War games have also been massive sellers along with the first Company of Heroes.

Civilization V was also a million plus seller and the latest XCom was one of the driving forces for 2K's record profits last quarter and has been a big hit for them on the PC.

Starcraft needs no introduction.

A game doesn't need to sell 5 to 10 million copies to be successful. You only get that when you have an overbloated budget with ridiculously stupid marketing. Only a company like EA can come out and say Dead Space 3 needs to sell 5 mil to break even.

The PC market doesn't suffer from the same BS the console market does. Each game I listed has been a huge hit.

The genre generates enough sales if you make a good game. AoE Online was a mediocre game at best with overpriced content and used the god awful GFW LIVE. That's why it died. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft would rather have us all game on their Xbox.

So word of advice; don't make things up and present it as fact.
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bvguthrie Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:34pm 
@Tenclub: Uvatha may be wrong, but a lot of the games you listed to counter his argument are irrelevant--the genre in question is the RTS. Total War, Civ 5, and Football manager are not RTS games.
Going back to the original point of the thread, check out 0 AD (play0ad.com). It's free, and draws a lot of inspiration from AOE2.
Iceman77's_SON_LEAVE_ME_ALONE Mar 4, 2013 @ 10:37pm 
They still make good rts games?
MasacruAlex Mar 5, 2013 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by ***1cem@n***:
They still make good rts games?

Not really, all the epic past rts's were made with passion and not to milk $$.
Taco Sauce (Banned) Mar 5, 2013 @ 3:30am 
The question is what does it matter if it is brand spanking new.

What matters isn't when the game was made but the quality of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_2070
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starcraft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Keeper_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrifice_%28video_game%29

There you go a couple good rts's.
Release date isn't 2013 but who cares?

Games are not garbage just cause they are not released/created in the current year.
Abu Mar 5, 2013 @ 2:59pm 
For your traditional base-building RTS game, try Starcraft II. The expansion is coming out next week.

I'm also a big fan of map-control RTS games like Company of Heroes and Dawn of War 2.
Purple Tentacle Mar 5, 2013 @ 4:47pm 


Originally posted by bvguthrie:
@Tenclub: Uvatha may be wrong, but a lot of the games you listed to counter his argument are irrelevant--the genre in question is the RTS. Total War, Civ 5, and Football manager are not RTS games.
Going back to the original point of the thread, check out 0 AD (play0ad.com). It's free, and draws a lot of inspiration from AOE2.

think you'll find the total war series to be RTS games, just because it mix's TBS with RTS dosen't mean it isn't either
SmartAndy_s Mar 5, 2013 @ 4:57pm 
imstill play ythe original c&c so im good for the future lol
SmartAndy_s Mar 5, 2013 @ 4:57pm 
trlolololo
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