Remove the ™ and ® symbols from all Steam game titles

[Laptop]

I'm making this thread on a slowly increasing problem on Steam game titles.

On some Steam titles, for example - Assassin's Creed 3, Far Cry 3, Age of Empies 3 and Batman: Arkham Origins. They all have an ® or a ™ in the name. While these games are a trademark of the company they belong to, there is absolutely no need to stick them in the game title name.

Let's take Assassin's Creed III for example - http://puu.sh/524TF/c243385b95.png

It is the only AC game that has the ® in the game title. No other AC games have it, not even AC4 has it. The apostrophe is also different on AC3 compared to the other AC games also.

Another example is the latest Batman game - http://i.imgur.com/8glUgTC.png

The ™ isn't supposed to be there.

This is the same case for Far Cry 3, which as the ® in it.

Age of Empires 3 does the same as it appears above 2, however I already contacted Microsoft about this and they stated they would talk to Valve and see about getting it fixed.

Other threads have been brought up in other places on this -

http://steamcommunity.com/app/209000/discussions/0/792924952507869276/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/209000/discussions/0/846966336308430585/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221380/discussions/0/864980734752128931/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/220240/discussions/0/846938351103113462/

I would imagine there are other Steam titles that this is the same case for. These are the only Steam games I own that have ™ or ® in them.

This is basically a request to Valve to remove all ™ and ® symbols from Steam game title names. OR allow us to rename our library games to our liking.

Some of you are probably thinking "this is the smallest bug I've ever seen", this is correct, but for people who have OCD will know how seriously annoying this is.

Thanks for reading and I hope Valve take action.

List of Steam games that have symbols in them (post in the thread for games that aren't in here):

Age of Empires 3
Assassin's Creed III
Batman: Arkham Origins
Far Cry 3
Far Cry 3 - Blood Dragon
Medal of Honor Single Player + Multiplayer
RIFT
Sleeping Dogs
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II

[Lone Wolfe (Hoover1979)]

like RIFT™?
It just keeps going.

[Laptop]

Originally posted by {E.B.N} Dog of Art 2.0:

like RIFT™?
It just keeps going.

RIFT is another example then.

[Felix]

To my knowledge, it is up to the publisher/developer as to how their game appears on Steam and the Steam Library. When giving the title of the game to Valve, they included the ™/®

[Laptop]

Originally posted by FrazerJC:

To my knowledge, it is up to the publisher/developer as to how their game appears on Steam and the Steam Library. When giving the title of the game to Valve, they included the ™/®

Yes, but let's take the AC series for example. Only AC3 has the symbol, NO OTHER AC game on Steam has it. Not even the new AC4 game has it. Why stick it in for AC3 only?

[Zinnoy]

I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for someone with OCD. I dont have OCD and even i would get pretty frustrated if my games would be listed in a messed up order.

[Zinnoy]

Originally posted by Case:

Incidentally, because "Arkham Origins (tm)" is set in a TIME prior to the events of the other games, it does in fact belong BEFORE those others CHRONOLOGICALLY.
Only if you werre ordering by release / publication/ development date etc. would it FOLLOW the others CHRONOLOGICALLY.

He also mentioned Far Cry 3, which i think does not belong before far cry 1. The problem is also not necessarily the trademarks themselves but the fact that they mess up the order.

[Laptop]

Originally posted by e24:

yeah, but you see.. Steam is now a competitor in the console market. and microsoft is spawning a legion of crypto-steam users and beginning an attack against everything Valve and Steam related. It mostly originated with that scam-ware called Age of Empires 2: HD. Which deceived many Steam users with it's unplayable fakeness.

ms is putting the blame on Valve and Steam.

Gabe opened up a can of worms when he criticised microsoft.

AOE2 works fine. This thread isn't about AOE2HD. If you follow the developers they are ironing out all the bugs.

[Tito Shivan]

To shine a bit of light on this, apparently they're kind of obligued to display those symbols when displaying the trademark.
According to 15 USC §1111[www.bitlaw.com]

A registrant of a mark registered in the Patent Office, may give notice that his mark is registered by displaying with the mark the words “Registered in U. S. Patent and Trademark Office” or “Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.” or the letter R enclosed within a circle, thus (R); and in any suit for infringement under this Act by such a registrant failing to give such notice of registration, no profits and no damages shall be recovered under the provisions of this Act unless the defendant had actual notice of the registration.

Basically if you trademark something, but fail to notice it (by, for example not displaying the trademark notice) You risk getting no profit or damage compensation on a future trademark litigation.

[Laptop]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

To shine a bit of light on this, apparently they're kind of obligued to display those symbols when displaying the trademark.
According to 15 USC §1111[www.bitlaw.com]

A registrant of a mark registered in the Patent Office, may give notice that his mark is registered by displaying with the mark the words “Registered in U. S. Patent and Trademark Office” or “Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.” or the letter R enclosed within a circle, thus (R); and in any suit for infringement under this Act by such a registrant failing to give such notice of registration, no profits and no damages shall be recovered under the provisions of this Act unless the defendant had actual notice of the registration.

Basically if you trademark something, but fail to notice it (by, for example not displaying the trademark notice) You risk getting no profit or damage compensation on a future trademark litigation.

That makes sense but there is a store title page and a library game title page. If the store page titles for a game have symbols then that's fine, but they don't need to be on the library title page.

Far Cry 3 has it, but the others don't? Assassin's Creed 3 has it, but none of the other AC games have it? Batman: Arkhan Origins has it but the other two don't? Come on its ridiculous.

[Fox]

Originally posted by Laptop65:

I'm making this thread on a slowly increasing problem on Steam game titles.

On some Steam titles, for example - Assassin's Creed 3, Far Cry 3, Age of Empies 3 and Batman: Arkham Origins. They all have an ® or a ™ in the name. While these games are a trademark of the company they belong to, there is absolutely no need to stick them in the game title name.

Let's take Assassin's Creed III for example - http://puu.sh/524TF/c243385b95.png

It is the only AC game that has the ® in the game title. No other AC games have it, not even AC4 has it. The ® causes it to appear at the top of the game title list and out of place on the AC games series. The apostrophe is also different on AC3 compared to the other AC games also.

Another example is the latest Batman game - http://i.imgur.com/8glUgTC.png

The ™ isn't supposed to be there. It causes the Origins game to appear above the other two games. While in the Batman games storyline this is set before the previous two games, in ORDER OF RELEASE DATE, this game should be the third one down.

I'd also like to point out that Arkham Asylum GOTY Edition and Arkham City GOTY are not named the same. I would like to suggest that Arkham City have 'GOTY Edition' on the end also.

This is the same case for Far Cry 3, which as the ® in it. It also appears above Far Cry 1 and 2, which is wrong as shown here - http://i.imgur.com/aIrn2WI.png

Age of Empies 3 does the same as it appears above 2, however I already contacted Microsoft about this and they stated they would talk to Valve and see about getting it fixed.

Other threads have been brought up in other places on this -

http://steamcommunity.com/app/209000/discussions/0/792924952507869276/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/209000/discussions/0/846966336308430585/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/221380/discussions/0/864980734752128931/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/220240/discussions/0/846938351103113462/

I would imagine there are other Steam titles that this is the same case for. These are the only Steam games I own that have ™ or ® in them.

This is basically a request to Valve to remove all ™ and ® symbols from Steam game title names. OR allow us to rename our library games to our liking.

Some of you are probably thinking "this is the smallest bug I've ever seen", this is correct, but for people who have OCD will know how seriously annoying this is.

Thanks for reading and I hope Valve take action.

List of Steam games that have symbols in them (post in the thread for games that aren't in here:

Age of Empires 3
Assassin's Creed III
Batman: Arkham Origins
Far Cry 3
RIFT
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II

A nice idea, but for me, a little too much work for the actual benefit.

A more broader suggestion would be something like "being able to reorganize games as we please". Doing this would render your suggestion obsolete, as nothing would ever stop you from reordering your games, and it's far simpler than renaming (drag-drop, done).

Invalid.

[Laptop]

Originally posted by Fox:

A nice idea, but for me, a little too much work for the actual benefit.

A more broader suggestion would be something like "being able to reorganize games as we please". Doing this would render your suggestion obsolete, as nothing would ever stop you from reordering your games, and it's far simpler than renaming (drag-drop, done).

Invalid.

Not really too much work. Just edit some titles.

Yes being able to re-organise the order of your games would be good also, whether this suggestion goes through or not. Some games series are not in the correct order due to the they are alphabetically named. Renaming would be nice too, some people may want to rename their games whether or not there is a symbol in there.

Valid suggestion!

[Meatbug]

I would guess thats the Developers (or Publishers) fault.
I'm not into that technical stuff on how a game is implemented to Steam, but i would bet they get their info from the Dev/Publisher and just add everything like they get it.
So if Ubisoft gives them the Name of their game with a TM/R in it they just use this, regardless if it was in the name on the previous titles.
And i doubt Valve can just change these names on their own.

[Broken_Ai]

it does need fixing

[«Gғм» Kid Of The Century]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

To shine a bit of light on this, apparently they're kind of obligued to display those symbols when displaying the trademark.

I recall one of the Valve devs in this thread (not entirely sure though) saying that they could have replaced those ugly "(tm)" with the proper "™" but in any case they weren't allowed to remove them.

[Shiro]

Yeah I think those symbols are pretty silly too.

Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is

"Sid Meier's" Civilization

"Tom Clancy's" Rainbow six

And so on and so forth.