ynotak47 11 sep 2013 om 11:25nm
Family Sharing seems limited
So instead of being able to share and play at the same time with any game makes co-op single player you take that away. Most games will make us buy a third party key because they want money for that extra computer being able to play. If we are going to borrow games from friends or family I think if the asking person is in the same network then it should be 100% shared and transfered to play together. If someone is outside the network then 1 at a time. No extra cdkey required. This is similar to trading console games with friends. If you don't pay a subscription fee its shareable. Thus it should be similar with computers since most of the consoles are going to start dying off here soon with the ♥♥♥♥ they are producing, and wanting to get rid of the trading option as well.
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Laptop65 11 sep 2013 om 11:27nm 
I think computers on the same IP should all be allowed on. Especially for LAN games. For Valve games this is easy as Valve manage Steam and so on. But for games like Call of Duty and such, the publishers may say otherwise.
ynotak47 11 sep 2013 om 11:30nm 
Publishers are going to kill this anyways asking for us to pay for additional cd-keys, or buying a second copy. This is why this will be a limited option and mostly just steam based games, and indy games that are willing to fully cooperate with this feature. Just like xbone talked about getting rid of trading games.
Laatst bewerkt door ynotak47; 11 sep 2013 om 11:31nm
just.dont.do.it 12 sep 2013 om 12:14vm 
So far, it seems to be very limited due to lack of ability to share individual games, coupled with exclusive access to one's entire library. In other words, you won't be able to play ANY game as long as the library owner plays any other game. Even if you two want to play different games.
Rzep 12 sep 2013 om 12:26vm 
I think this is as far as they can take without Publishers taking their games off Steam, or adding some new scheme to limit what Steam is trying to do. Remember Steam is a store and no matter how popular it may be, it is still dependant on Publishers. If no one allows their games on Steam, then steam goes down.
-Silver the Dragon- (Verbannen) 12 sep 2013 om 12:53vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Rzep:
I think this is as far as they can take without Publishers taking their games off Steam, or adding some new scheme to limit what Steam is trying to do. Remember Steam is a store and no matter how popular it may be, it is still dependant on Publishers. If no one allows their games on Steam, then steam goes down.
thanks for posting this its a point we all depend on Steam staying alive has top priority for us that have a lot of games on i! Good Argument and solves the case for me i would decide too that way ! even if they wanted they cant risk that !
Laatst bewerkt door -Silver the Dragon-; 12 sep 2013 om 12:54vm
Ljaahni 12 sep 2013 om 5:32vm 
Sharing one single game between multiple persons isn't something you could do with a physical game, why should you be able to just because you bought it on Steam?
Having a friend/family member play a game of yours, while you are playing something else - thats something completely different, that SHOULD be allowed!
ᴷᴬᴿᴿ 12 sep 2013 om 5:47vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Ljaahni:
Sharing one single game between multiple persons isn't something you could do with a physical game, why should you be able to just because you bought it on Steam?
Having a friend/family member play a game of yours, while you are playing something else - thats something completely different, that SHOULD be allowed!

That though is not what the publishers are going to want to happen. They want everyone to BUY games, not be able to lent out 10 other copies of their games to people until they have played 200 hours of them and can give them back never to be played again or purchased! They want a system of "here, try this game" so that they person gets into it and likes it, but because they keep getting kicked out, they are moved towards purchasing their own copy!

As for:-
Origineel geplaatst door ynotak47:
So instead of being able to share and play at the same time with any game makes co-op single player you take that away.
There was only ever one copy of the game. You would never be able to play co-op with someone unless there were two copies of the game. This hasn't changed anything.
Spawn of Totoro 12 sep 2013 om 7:42vm 
It is, afterall, going to be in Beta. There may be limitations preventing the sharing of individual games and it may also change at a latter point in time.

Lets focus on what we are getting first, then we can focus on how to improve it.
Satoru 12 sep 2013 om 8:07vm 
Well you have to balance between 'sharing' and 'out right piracy'.
Assknight 12 sep 2013 om 8:27vm 
It's for familys.

Parent's can decide exactly what their kids can play.
Silv3r9 12 sep 2013 om 8:32vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Spawn of Totoro:
Lets focus on what we are getting first, then we can focus on how to improve it.

I had a long winded wall of text ready to agree with the above statement but I got distracted by a shiny star... Congrats Spawn!
Purple Tentacle 12 sep 2013 om 8:34vm 
im assuming theres something stopping me from playing my steam games in offline mode whilst i share my library ? i can see how they could stop it if i wanted to share but i had 1 PC but not if i had 2
ᴷᴬᴿᴿ 12 sep 2013 om 8:59vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Assknight Of Assonia:
It's for familys.

Parent's can decide exactly what their kids can play.

This has nothing to do with parental controls. EVERY item in your account is shared, you have no control over individual items.
[PCP]Ulanor 12 sep 2013 om 9:24vm 
Origineel geplaatst door just.dont.do.it:
So far, it seems to be very limited due to lack of ability to share individual games, coupled with exclusive access to one's entire library. In other words, you won't be able to play ANY game as long as the library owner plays any other game. Even if you two want to play different games.


Even though thats NOT how steam says it works and it wouldnt make sense for it to as for that I could just trust someone enough to let them play on my accout in the first place
[PCP]Ulanor 12 sep 2013 om 9:28vm 
OK different releases from steam saying different things, but if thats all it is I can ignore it then.
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