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Nobody is forcing you to read these anti-EA threads, lol
The thing is yet that even if i do not read them there taking out from the notification list new treads that i can help on or talk abut... and that for me is a bad thing after all we are limited on that
(even that some may not understand how i cant handle with abut only 100 posts that is not that big of a number)
Maybe if Steam will make a suggest thing that if you make a title with a few key words that the Mods can put in.. it will suggest 1 tread... so it will be like if you have Early access never finsh,bad,cake,tags
Then it will suggest a comman tread for it pick by the mods... so if someone say something abut cake and that will become a comman tread that keeps been made the Mods will be able to add it to a list of keywords recommending a cake tread?
Just don't read those threads. Until people are happy about the Early Access situation, one can only expect people to discuss what 'might' be the problem and possible solutions.
One thing that doesn't help, is people complaining about others complaining. That just adds to the less constructive side of conversations and discussions.
Eventually something will be done to appease the Early Access crowd, for the most part.
Then it will be something else, right?
It's best not to get all worked up about other's opinions that you claim not to care much about.
Just my observation.
I do care abut it.... i will love it if they get something done and will really talk abut it over
But what we get there is the same discussion going over and over and over, sometime it even go for a little then the OP say.. i do not really care i just want it off
As in i post it just as i can, to to take off my nerves and give me some feeling, he dose not even really want to talk abut it
The point is even that many other things happen over and over (Tabs or Trade bans or VAC Ban) they do not come as much as these.... and most of them are really looking for help.... or learn something
The Early Access thing is MUST be known to Valve by now.... i think i seen abut 5-9 treads abut it in the last 3 days give or take.... maybe more
Even more sometimes its in the matter of seconds to have 2 posts abut it.... its a joke....i like them to talk abut it... but make it on the same tread... that is what i am asking for
What i am hoping to get from these is that small amount of guys that really may look at the forums for just a few moments and see these then maybe take there time to really search the forums before making one more tread out there abut the same subject...
Also that if someone want to post.. give some real info something to stand on
You can see way over the top posts the blame abut these and that and are proved wrong... or cant even give any thing to hold there words
But top of all i do care abut there posts... and getting 100000 posts saying the same thing really dose not help not them or us.... it just become spam when its the same thing so many times.. and not really moving any were not giving new ideas... and not working in groups to find how to get the best out of it
You get only like 1 or 2 guys saying how its bad and 10 guys saying its good to have EAG... is that saying that there is less that do not want early access? no.... it says that they cant work on the same tread and help each outher....
Some thing that who dose want EAG or agree to it can do
(and yes i am on the good with EAG group... but these tread will have been made also if i hated EAG)
But for most short i can do:
Keep EAG treads on 1 tread and stop posting more and move of them... i think that sums up the main part
He does not like people creating unnecessary threads about this issue so he has created another unnecessary thread to say this.
Yes, many people "whine" about early access and its recent proliferation.
It all basically comes down to a stong "buyer beware" ethic that is being perpetuated by the manner in which Early Access games are being marketed.
So rather than go about complaining about YOUR customers,how about you actively do something to work with valve / steam to prevent the cause - the littering of early access games being promoted on store pages right next to and akin with complete and functioning games.
A seach option to allow for the exclusion of ealry access games would be a huge start. This would prevent the increasing occurance of people buying something without having a full understanding of what they are purchasing.
When you couple the "buyer baware" idealogy that you have shown to support with your own statements, along with the censorship of anything that draws remotely conflicting views by moderators / Steam, is it any surprise that threads are repeated locked which has created the need for your percieved constant miss-use of the forums ??
You seem to have a view that your own efforts in the gaming industry are a gift to us all, there is nothing further from the truth. You are a programmer, this is a chosen career path, it is a job and a business with a purpose of having you undertake work, to derive a product you can sell to make a profit. Some are better or WORSE than others in their chosen field of employ.
But the moment you attacked your potential customers, over your own issues with your job, you lost any chance of gaining the support or consideration of your customers.
You are not a "gift" to us all, neither is your "work". It is a commercial endevor, and if you don't like the reaction, look at the root cause, not the end issue. This ideal might help you with your apparent coding and community issues.
And btw ppl, this only highlights a point i made in another post, devs DO have and use "user" accounts to their own ends.
And on these post once again i am not saying there is no bad in post abut early access
What i am saying is that i will prefer much if they can keep it on one tread and not keep posting over and over more or less the same things on new posts...
Not only do i think that its becoming spam more then any real Discussion i think it also loses its power.. as you have many small treads abut it... and not one long big one that really show how many may want it or not... to be off the front page...
Instead it brakes the call to many treads... and its just making it harder to navigate in the forum I say the same on many treads like Tabs that is also here and there coming over and over...
But the Early Access just keep going on and on abut it... i mean ok you want to give a point i think that is great... but keep it on one or 5 treads no need to post 500 treads abut it, even more if you see on the start when these treads start there were growing and even more seem to really try to work on finding ways to help and improve
But now there are soooo many treads abut it that just keep saying the same things and show no real support to it... some even just say things with no proof behind them, or just post and never even return to replay on there post...
So in the end for me as a User on the forums these looks much more like spam now then someone really trying to say something... or help...
And i must say i am some what flatted you can think of me as a Game Dev