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wobbler 13 nov 2012 om 12:19nm
F2P or P2W?
I was just looking at this, since the starter pack is in the sale (not thinking of spending money just yet), but wondered, is it TRULY free to play? I heard it is definitely pay to win, unless you want a long boring grind to things that should be easily available.
How much, roughly, per month would you have to pay to get a decent game out of it, if it IS pay to win?
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Thomas45 13 nov 2012 om 12:35nm 
As someone who has played STO since it was in closed beta back in 2009 it has always had a Shop in it to buy stuff, however, this stuff was mostly customization and even the ships that were sold were not 'over-powered' compared to free ships.

Since STO went Free-to-play, a lot of the new ships and content have required you to purchase them, however you can do this in-game by just playing the game and earning 'dilithium' and exchanging it in-game for 'Zen' points which you use to buy stuff from the in-game store.

This system works pretty well and you are under no obligation to even use it. The items in the store are not unbalanced or give you an unfair advantage to someone who doesn't spend any money. Also, all content in STO is open to all players, so you can play everything without ever spending any money. Most people spend money on the fancy new ship that comes out and you might be tempted to do the same but it's no big deal and it all up to how much you love playing the game.

Give STO a go, it's a pretty good game now, the real game starts at Lvl 50 of course where most of the content has been developed lately with Fleet Starbases, Borg STF's, New Romulus etc but there is also the Foundry which has thousands of user created missions that exceed even Cryptic made missions.

It's a good game and I would not call it pay-2-win, more like pay-2-get fancy stuff that isn't important unless you really want it.
Bash 13 nov 2012 om 12:37nm 
I played right up to the edge of endgame entirely for free. It took me approximately a month and how things were then it was definitely not pay to win. Try it and don't buy this steam starter pack, the only thing useful about it is the xp boost but leveling in the game is quick and easy anyway. The space combat is great!
Thomas45 13 nov 2012 om 12:45nm 
I have bought the Steam Starter Pack, but solely for the Tier 5 ship, it's heavily discounted so its cheaper than the other ships on the store and better in stats than the other tactical ship I was looking at, the starting items aren't worth it though, you'll be done using them within 2-5 hours of playtime.
wobbler 13 nov 2012 om 12:47nm 
Thanks guys, because of your comments I am going to give this game a big fat yes, and try it out for a while
Kanly 13 nov 2012 om 7:03nm 
the console and stats on the tier 5 ship are WAAAY overpowered imo
Zorlac 14 nov 2012 om 2:49vm 
Free to play. You can even earn cash shop money in game.
Joseph Stassup 14 nov 2012 om 7:02nm 
I do free surveys on PW site. What? I don't actually do them. I just post fake names and adresses.
wobbler 14 nov 2012 om 7:25nm 
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Wtf is this?
ManDraKE 22 nov 2012 om 1:46nm 
You can get all the stuff using in-game currency, is your choice: play for it, or pay for it. I'm a PvP player and i have endgame ships equiped with all end-game gear and never spent a cent in this game, ofc took me a while get all that stuff.
Walker 23 nov 2012 om 1:07vm 
By the definitions of p2w, this game sadly falls in that category. The new term people are now using for p2w is "pay 4 advantage", since people get defensive about p2w. You can get better gear immediately if you put money in, through converting Zen to dilithium. This game is still amazing though!
Laatst bewerkt door Walker; 23 nov 2012 om 1:08vm
wobbler 23 nov 2012 om 2:47vm 
Thanks Walker, most honest answer I have had so far.
How much of an advantage can you buy?
MiKHA 24 nov 2012 om 8:27nm 
There's ways to get the zen/dil you want, and with enough effort you can have everything good in game.

Not very much. The broken combos in the game are: Klingon - Full Power Drain team and Disable then Tric Mine to the face. These 2 require no paid ship.

The most OP ships are paid, but they will still get destroyed by the above combos that anyone can pull off with good coordination and piloting.
[AoU] That-Damn-Duck 25 nov 2012 om 4:14nm 
The answer is moot untill they frickin fix the in-game Zen purchasing!!

"Hi! We are a game company who thinks players buying our product is not helpful to our buisness model. Therefore we will drag our feet and fix it...umm..you know..whenever..."
cowinspace 25 nov 2012 om 4:21nm 
Origineel geplaatst door That-Damn-Duck:
The answer is moot untill they frickin fix the in-game Zen purchasing!!

"Hi! We are a game company who thinks players buying our product is not helpful to our buisness model. Therefore we will drag our feet and fix it...umm..you know..whenever..."

You sure are one whiny little spambot today. So something broke in a patch, that isn't really unusual and they will fix it. Coding isn't easy, and fixing one thing can break another but little babies like you cry all over forums because the team who did it aren't fixing it "fast enough". This is a free game, play it as such and wait for the fixes.
[AoU] That-Damn-Duck 25 nov 2012 om 4:27nm 
lmao@whiny little spambot

I'm being a "little cry baby" over the fact I can't throw money at my favorite game and haven't been able to for a week. But my apologies if I have somehow caused you to raise your sword of justice to smite me down in all your superior goodness!

I grovel at your perfect feet and beg your forgiveness!

lolz
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