So. I was looking at the achievements, and I saw the "I can't belive that worked!" One. So I decided "what the hey, I'll do it, and get my first permadeath done too!" So this discussion is to tell how things go when trying for that achivement. I just ask no mods when trying it. Or have them. But some mods add rooms and items that make it to easy. So. My current try is on floor three, and I have NO MANA SPELLS. I forget the names, I'll get them the next time I do work on it. I get tons of money from all the spare booze I can't use. I also have more shrooms than I know what to do with.