[TD] Water Streakerz Oct 16, 2013 @ 8:51pm
how do i kill the shopkeep
or at least tick em off
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Haldurson Oct 16, 2013 @ 10:55pm 
You can anger Brax with any AE (area effect) ability or weapon, or any ability that can be targeted against a square or squares. For example, Polearms special attacks should be usable to antagonize him. I believe casting Astrology's Radiant Aura skill whille standing next to him minght anger him, but triggering it's area attack by being attacked by a monster will anger Brax for sure.
[TD] Water Streakerz Oct 16, 2013 @ 11:01pm 
is it worth shoplifting?
Haldurson Oct 17, 2013 @ 12:26am 
Sometimes. You can sometimes find really good items in shops even on low levels. The best way to do it, though, is to clear the level first, then make your way to a staircase, and never return to that floor. Invisibility, whether through Burglary or potions or mushrooms, can help, as can teleports. There are exploits as well, but I'm not going to tell you to use them. Any method that involves either not making Brax angry or not triggering the Dread Collectors from coming after you, is an exploit (which is a nice way of saying a cheat, when talking single-player games).

[TD] Water Streakerz Oct 17, 2013 @ 12:46am 
i do know one mushroom that makes you invisable when eaten will that work when i try to shoplift? merchant i was looking at while back had alot of great gear
Haldurson Oct 17, 2013 @ 1:02am 
Inky Hoglantern is what you are thinking of. So go for it. But make sure that you are done with the level and you know the best route to a staircase down (it could go through a teleporter). Dread Collectors will keep spawning on that level until either you leave it, or you kill all the shopkeepers on that level.
[LL] ๖ۣۜGorbax Oct 17, 2013 @ 6:13am 
Be sure you're prepared. Dread Collectors hit hard!
Haldurson Oct 17, 2013 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by LL ๖ۣۜGorbax:
Be sure you're prepared. Dread Collectors hit hard!
That's why I'm recommending invisibility and/or teleports, and getting to the stairs as fast as possible.
intok Oct 20, 2013 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by vinyl scratch (pony form):
is it worth shoplifting?
Depends, is there something in the shop that you can actually use? Remember, if you can't perform a craft on stolen items they can't be sold to another shopkeep.

What I stole was a Kronghammer which is one of the best maces and has +1 Smithing skill when equiped, I had gotten tired of running up a few floors to use it to craft new armor, but since my weaponskill is Maces and I had recipies for items that need more then maxed out Smithing it made sense to grab it and crack as many skulls as necessary to get out of there with it because at the time it still cost more then 3x the zorkomids that I had.

Originally posted by LL ๖ۣۜGorbax:
Be sure you're prepared. Dread Collectors hit hard!
I haven't found the Dreed collectors themselves to be much of a challenge, since I first sucessfully defeated their onslaut at around Lv20 with my beserker build, what does the real damage is their poison cloud, I recently at Lv30 wen't to clear out aonther floor's shops and for the first time had to retreat to the floor below because they kept spamming the purple gas cloud and that just started adding up way too fast even thoguh I can usually kill a Dred Collector in one hit once I've got a few spots of rage boosting my burlieness and melee damage to obsurd levels.
Haldurson Oct 20, 2013 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by intok:
I haven't found the Dreed collectors themselves to be much of a challenge, since I first sucessfully defeated their onslaut at around Lv20 with my beserker build,
That really will vary with your build and gear and level -- mages, for example, even with great mage gear, are not that great in close-quarter combat, and Dread Collectors can completely surround you if you aren't too careful or properly prepared.
intok Oct 20, 2013 @ 7:52pm 
Originally posted by Haldurson:
Dread Collectors can completely surround you if you aren't too careful or properly prepared.

Yeah, it's best to close doors to make a direct path between all the shopkeeps so that when you attack the first one it'll make it eaisier for the other Brax to get closer to you and to fight from positions you canbe attacked on as few sides as possible.

Now that I think about it it may be because I was using Shout, that doing so caused the DCs to bunch up and create huge masses of them instead of groups with gaps in them that allowed formore forward advancement.
Haldurson Oct 20, 2013 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by intok:
Now that I think about it it may be because I was using Shout, that doing so caused the DCs to bunch up and create huge masses of them instead of groups with gaps in them that allowed formore forward advancement.
They'll do that anyway -- they just keep spawning. Even when you are invisible, they can hinder your movement. I find that unless you want to get bogged down fighting them, it helps to have some kind of jump or teleport skill. It's not 100% necessary, but it can make things SO much easier and worry-free.
[LL] ๖ۣۜGorbax Oct 22, 2013 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by intok:
Remember, if you can't perform a craft on stolen items they can't be sold to another shopkeep.
This is not actually true. You can sell unaltered, stolen equipment.
On many occasions I've robbed an entire shop filled with unusable yet valuable loot just to sell it the next floor down.
intok Oct 25, 2013 @ 11:09pm 
eh, the current version w/ all expansions refuses to let me sell the stolen loot I have, though I'm not attacked for having it.
LemurMff Oct 26, 2013 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by intok:
eh, the current version w/ all expansions refuses to let me sell the stolen loot I have, though I'm not attacked for having it.

You are not attacked because you didn't leave the shop yet and reentered i guess? The best way i think is push things out of the shop (there is telekinesis for this job) pick them up and then if you don't change floors you will be attacked the moment you are going to get out of the shop so you should steal whatever you want by pushing things out and picking them up and then you have to change floor and never go back because you will still be attacked , on the next floor though you can sell the items you've stolen :)
[LL] ๖ۣۜGorbax Oct 26, 2013 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by intok:
eh, the current version w/ all expansions refuses to let me sell the stolen loot I have, though I'm not attacked for having it.
Are you trying to sell it to the same shop you've stolen it from? Because that doesn't work.
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