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Knopey Feb 23 @ 4:10pm
Thanks for nothing, Volition!
I quit. The game has lost me. For good.

I've been spending twice as much time reading through the billions of guides and support other players have gathered (thanks, people), trying out patches and mods players have created (deep thanks) to make up for the crap Volition didn't bother to cover. And nothing. The game is still hardly playable. One game crash after another, for absolutely no reason.

Even IF there is a way to make it run smoothly on my PC, I won't try and find it out anymore, because all a game has to do when i pay for it is: work. It doesn't even have to work perfectly. It only has to work.
This helluvacrapuva port simply doesn't. Not for longer than 1 hour (which happened only twice).

I know SR 2 is not the youngest game of the series, but after this bitter disappointment I heavily doubt that I'll get one of the other games. Way to go, Volition. Thanks for the massive waste of time I've bought. A digital middlefinger for your masterpiece Saints Row 2, from the depths of my heart.
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WhistlerDark Feb 27 @ 1:30am 
Saints Row 3 and 4 where produced by Deep Silver and not THQ that did Saints Row 2. It makes all the difference in the world. 3 and 4 have PC ports that work just fine and are very playable on PC. You won't have the same fustrations. Honestly, they shouldn't have offered Saints Row 2 on Steam for PC users, but the popularity of 3 & 4 pushed them to up it up.
Knopey Feb 27 @ 4:23am 
But Deep Silver and THQ are the publishers, not the developers, right? As far as I know, Volition made all of the games?
But good to know that 3 and 4 work better
[V] IdolNinja Feb 27 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by WhistlerDark:
Saints Row 3 and 4 where produced by Deep Silver and not THQ that did Saints Row 2. It makes all the difference in the world. 3 and 4 have PC ports that work just fine and are very playable on PC. You won't have the same fustrations. Honestly, they shouldn't have offered Saints Row 2 on Steam for PC users, but the popularity of 3 & 4 pushed them to up it up.

THQ was the publisher that owned Volition studios. Under THQ, Volition created Saints Row, Saints Row 2, and Saints Row: The Third (plus the Red Faction games, Summoner, etc.) Due to financial difficulties, THQ declared bankruptcy and was forced to auction off all their properties. These properties included internal studios (Volition, Relic Entertainment, Vigil games, etc) plus the IPs auctioned separately (Red Faction, Saints Row, Darksiders, Company of Heroes, etc.) Volition Studios was bought by Koch Media during the auction along with the Saints Row IP. The publishing arm of Koch Media is Deep Silver, and under them Saints Row IV was released, and where Volition is now.

The answer to why the Saints Row 2 PC port has so many problems, and also why the future PC ports of SRTT and SRIV were greatly improved lies with THQ's decision to outsource the SR2 PC port to CD Projekt Red. Volition had virtually no input into the SR2 port, and the result was something that nobody was happy with. This led to a decision to bring the future PC ports in-house where Volition developed them internally.

NOTE: CD Projekt Red is not the studio who made The Witcher games. That studio is actually a different group named CD Projekt Black (a separate team under the CD Projekt group.)
WhistlerDark Feb 27 @ 1:18pm 
My bad and thanks for the correction. I do know that the port for 3 and 4 is perfect as far as I can tell. I guess it is unfair to judge Saints 2 if you can only play it on PC because the port is so bad that it effects the entire game. You have a driving game that you can't drive in. Making any other part of the game a massive bummer.
Knopey Feb 27 @ 1:29pm 
That's a worthwhile piece of info, thanks IdolNinja.
Yeah WhistlerDark, I agree. And based on what Ninja said, it's not really Volitions fault that the game got crappy on PC (all of the game elements, however, are good. If only they qorked all together). Maybe I actually will give The Third and 4 a try.
Mack Mar 21 @ 2:28pm 
As long as you try 3 and 4 for fun gameplay and not for story; SR 2 has the best story, hands down.
Knopey Mar 21 @ 3:07pm 
I'm playing 3 now. And yeah it rocks =D Though the story, like you said, Mack, isn't the thing you should play the game for really ^^ However, I'm glad that the port-f*ckup is only an issue with SR2
Boomie Mar 21 @ 9:08pm 
What's really funny is the fact that I'm playing this with an IGP and it works fine. I thought it would give my PC a beating.
Lesskarr Mar 21 @ 10:48pm 
well this explains alot i never new about thq going bankrupt or any of that other stuff and tbh sr2 was the first saint game i got on pc because i new that the first one as an xbox exclusive and had [layed the first 3 games on xbox alot before i eventually got bfore coming to pc games eventually but anywho after gettiing sr2 and dealing with similar issues that the op had to deal with i basically went and uninstalled it and dont plan installing it again ever and then after abit i took arisk and got srtt abd then sriv and im glad i got them
Undahill Mar 22 @ 9:11am 
Didn't have one issue with 2. Played the entire thing to 100% twice through co-op. Best of the series by far. To each there own I guess.
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