Instinkt Sep 28, 2013 @ 12:46pm
Why does it run slow even though no core or gpu is at max?
Maybe someone can help us... We are playing SCFA, with sorian ai, and core maximizer.
After a while the game gets slow, but both our GPU's are not at maximum, and our cpus are at best at 40-50% per core (both quad cores). Now as I understand it the game should slow down once at least 1 core is at 100% or the GPU is at max, but since this is not the case for both pcs we are wondering what might be the problem? Oh yea we are playing through matchmaking(instead of lan), maybe that is the problem? Any other ideas?

Thanks
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Sheppard Sep 28, 2013 @ 1:06pm 
the simulation of suprem commander (which is by far the biggest part) is single threaded
GPU is not related, and the core maximazer has no effect
Uchiha Madara Sep 28, 2013 @ 1:28pm 
Do have any way do configure Suprem commander to run using multi core?
Instinkt Sep 28, 2013 @ 3:24pm 
Ok here is the funny thing: I told the game NOT to use the first core after starting it, and then allowed it again to use all cores on both machines - and the game went from using core 1 much more then the others to pretty much balanced usage of all 4 cores. Anyone wants to try and confirm if it works?
Instinkt Sep 28, 2013 @ 3:25pm 
And I think the initial problem why I wrote was because we were playing over matchmaking, not lan.
Sheppard Sep 28, 2013 @ 4:08pm 
there is no way to run SupCom on multiple cores for the simply reason that the sim could not sync (it's a "problem" not only of the engine but of the whole idea behind the engine, no programm or tool could ever change that)

what the core maximazer COULD do under xp is that it moved other programms to other cores, but windows vista and 7 are doing this better and more efficient than the coremaximazer ever did in on xp

but the programm CANNOT put parts of the sim speed on other cores - this is simply not possible - and if Instink would waste a second to look at the code instead of bringing up selfmade randomtests he would actually understand that

but hey if you want to use core maximazer, it's not like it crashes your system, it just doesnt do anything (and i personally dislike redundant programms on my PC)
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Uchiha Madara Sep 28, 2013 @ 5:08pm 
That was the most cleary answer I could find. I read about this thread named SIM on others forums but they don't say which could be the solution. And actually don't have a solution. SCFA is heating hard the first core of my i7, taking 100% of it's processing capacity. =)
Instinkt Sep 29, 2013 @ 12:41am 
Sheppard, I know that. Thats why I was irritated that my cores are now used more evenly and asked for verification. I'll probably try again today evening...
P.S. By that I do not mean using core maximizer, by that I mean after start to disallow the program to use the first core, then activate it again(while using core maximizer, just so the setup is the same). Maybe its as simple as undoing what core maximizer was doing... we'll see
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Instinkt Sep 29, 2013 @ 12:49am 
There is one thing you gotta tell me though Sheppard... how do I get my hands on SCFA's source code? After all, you told me to look at the code...
Sheppard Sep 29, 2013 @ 1:58am 
Originally posted by Instinkt:
There is one thing you gotta tell me though Sheppard... how do I get my hands on SCFA's source code? After all, you told me to look at the code...
you dont right now because gaspoweredgames forums are down right now you have to wait until they are back
Instinkt Sep 29, 2013 @ 2:03am 
why do you point fingers by saying that I should then if I cant? BTW I doubt that the source code is free available even if the forums were up...
Sheppard Sep 29, 2013 @ 2:37am 
it isnt but it's explained by a GPG employee with code fragments there
you post shows again that you have no brain, internetsites are down when they are down, no way to predict that or know that

i add you too my foe list now i wasted enough time with you
if you think that programm does something, go ahead maybe you visit some computer lessons at some point and then come back here and say "ooooh sorry you were right and i was talking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because i had no clue and didnt even look at the code of either SupCom or 'core maximazer' "
Instinkt Sep 29, 2013 @ 2:55am 
Thank you, good choice. Then I won't have to do it. At least I have in fact coded multi threading applications in the past, I doubt you can say the same.

Anyways, for anyone who is interested:
I have just done the same trick on need for speed hot persuit which is supposed to be able to use multi cores, when in fact every time I run it it just maximizes core 1. Same method: start the game, then disallow it to use core zero, check it again to allow it using core zero again, and voila, evenly distributed across all cores.

So my theory at this point is that by doing that I make windows reassign all threads more evenly. No clue why it does not do it in the first place.
Sheppard Sep 29, 2013 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Instinkt:
Thank you, good choice. Then I won't have to do it. At least I have in fact coded multi threading applications in the past, I doubt you can say the same.

Anyways, for anyone who is interested:
I have just done the same trick on need for speed hot persuit which is supposed to be able to use multi cores, when in fact every time I run it it just maximizes core 1. Same method: start the game, then disallow it to use core zero, check it again to allow it using core zero again, and voila, evenly distributed across all cores.

So my theory at this point is that by doing that I make windows reassign all threads more evenly. No clue why it does not do it in the first place.
this is like an accident, you cant stop looking at it
Instinkt Sep 29, 2013 @ 3:21am 
I thought you'd set me on ignore. Shame we can't get along, as you have mostly a good taste when it comes to choosing games.

Please stop writing in this thread unless you have something on topic to contribute.

Heck, why don't you test it and report back, provided that you have one core (almost) maxed out and others doing around 30-40%... its as simple as starting the game, getting the cpu maxed out, switching out, doing the stuff I said, switching back, wait a while, switching out and looking at the task manager again...
Uchiha Madara Sep 29, 2013 @ 8:34am 
I saw another forum that they say that SCFA uses the first core as much as it can and the rest of the need of processing goes to anothers cores avaliable. That explain why the performance won't change using the core maximizer, but you can equalize the use of all cores, don't overcharging only the first.
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