Paulie Dec 9, 2012 @ 4:32pm
"Real" ending answered no questions [May Contain Spoilers!!!!!!!]
So I finally pressed on and unlocked the real ending, Jumped through all the hoops I had to, did the talking, and I found no closure... is this the dev's way of giving us the finger, or do they truly not know how to end this game?
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HiSaZuL Dec 9, 2012 @ 6:38pm 
No its their way of leaving answer to your own imagination.
If you ever played old text based MUD you pretty much leave everything to each players imagination. So the world each person percieves is "their" version.
Maybe its all an illusion... just some nut case having a bad doze of sedatives and tripping like there is no tomorrow. Maybe you are that devourer from the story... maybe its something else. Maybe they set a stage for a next game... just in case.
Paulie Dec 9, 2012 @ 6:48pm 
I do have a kind of side theory that you're stuck in limbo and must keep repeating the same actions untill some method of conclusion is discovered and enacted.
HiSaZuL Dec 9, 2012 @ 8:21pm 
I'm tempted to just go with that story from 3 sinicles... about a devourer of "minds". Something went wrong and that guy himself "ate" too much and his control faded and mind shattered. Thats why he sees things that aren't there. Thats why there are characters that carry out his biddings and then when their job is done his old hold collapses and they just snap into confusion.
Kind of trapped by his own power. One of history terminals gives another interesting theory but meh its all theories and ramblings :P
Julius 神拳 Seizure Dec 11, 2012 @ 10:49pm 
My interpretation is that Your character is actually Rimanah (Is that how you spell it?), trapped between a world where he is presumed dead (wold A) and a world where he is a power-hungry maniac (world B). He got into this situation as a result of trying to use a forbidden cybermancy (possibly some super-powerful form of necrocybermancy), causing everyone in world A to think he was KIA and also creating a new personality for his world B-self. He assumes the memories and traits of a person in world B, one in contact with Mentor B due to his own, similar memories of Mentor A. The worlds bleed over into each other in his eyes and mind, causing confusion for him and those around him. The mysterious Entity in your dreams is most likely a god-like being who is attracted to "Wanderers" like Rimanah for reasons unkown. This Entity is probably the one responsible for "looping" Rimanah through his life after the accident until he escapes. The Frontier and the area leading up to it are the only places in the game that exist outside the cycle. The three synicles you find tell you about the Carnophage that teaches you one of the gate abilities in the "Betray-your-mentor" route. The single synicle who appears in the true ending is the woman who wandered underground in one of the stories told to you by a Secreta member in the temple ("I have to be at the red border of the known universe"). She was sentenced to death-by-torture by a high-ranking commander (!) when she was dicovered there. She had her eyes mutilated... Other people suffer from Rimanah's same situation, possibly due to their own experiments. Who knows how many of the people you meet are Wanderers. There's a manduco hidden in New Eden who also Wanders, based on his dialog. It's the same one you kill at the very start of the game.

Wow, that was long. I think too much into these things...
HiSaZuL Dec 12, 2012 @ 12:53am 
Yes like I said... I'm tempted to go with the devourer story. You are Rimanah and not Rimanah at the same time. Two sides of the same being. Possibly use of Hypnotic Gate to confuse others into thinking otherwise. Once one version dies everyone reverts and suddenly commander was dead for a long time... Rimanah himself implies similar things. Ancient somewhat hits on it. Mysterious wanderer does some hinting too but very vague. Also about wanderers I'm pretty sure Mysterious is simply another wanderer just like that manduco on eden also trapped in that cycle. He actually gives the most info that isn't packed with vague gibbrish. He wishes for 3 fundamentals(gates) to escape his neverending cycle he also plainly says that you are the same as he is, implying you are also stuck.
Or like I said before... maybe its all a dream :P Of a poorly medicated asylum resident.
samtravis Dec 22, 2012 @ 1:21am 
Well for a game that hates it's players so much at the beginning , it's refreshing to see that they still hate you at the end. At least they're consistent!!
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