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A Random User Jun 6, 2013 @ 5:31pm
Wll you be able to play a brave new world with Gods and Kings?
I was wondering, does civilization normally support enabling multiple expanision packs at once? Or would you have to choose between brave new world or Gods and Kings? Any ideas?
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Bart Jun 6, 2013 @ 5:34pm 
brave new world includes all mechanics featured in gods and kings but the nine civilizations

that being said yes you will be to play with both activated

but even if you only have brave new world activated you still will have all the features apart of the G+K civilizations
robotspacezombie Jun 6, 2013 @ 7:05pm 
Originally posted by Bart:
brave new world includes all mechanics featured in gods and kings but the nine civilizations

that being said yes you will be to play with both activated

but even if you only have brave new world activated you still will have all the features apart of the G+K civilizations

false. BNW does NOT include religion, espionage, OR the new techs/units/wonders added by G&K. Instead, BNW will add its own new techs, units, wonders, and technical systems. The 2 dlcs are meant to be used together, but BNW will still be work without G&K. For instance, if you don't have G&K and purchase BNW, your trade routes will work like the trade routes do for someone who has both dlcs. EXCEPT your trade routes will not carry your religion to the target city, as they would for an owner of both dlcs.

But to answer the question, yes you will be able to use both dlcs together.
Popcorn Soda55 Jun 6, 2013 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by pandoradog22:
Originally posted by Bart:
brave new world includes all mechanics featured in gods and kings but the nine civilizations

that being said yes you will be to play with both activated

but even if you only have brave new world activated you still will have all the features apart of the G+K civilizations

false. BNW does NOT include religion, espionage, OR the new techs/units/wonders added by G&K. Instead, BNW will add its own new techs, units, wonders, and technical systems. The 2 dlcs are meant to be used together, but BNW will still be work without G&K. For instance, if you don't have G&K and purchase BNW, your trade routes will work like the trade routes do for someone who has both dlcs. EXCEPT your trade routes will not carry your religion to the target city, as they would for an owner of both dlcs.

But to answer the question, yes you will be able to use both dlcs together.

That is incorrect it will include religion, espionage and 100HP per units. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=490854
Espresso Jun 6, 2013 @ 7:11pm 
You can use any DLC or expansion packs together with Civ V.
robotspacezombie Jun 6, 2013 @ 7:47pm 
Originally posted by Popcorn Soda55:
Originally posted by pandoradog22:

false. BNW does NOT include religion, espionage, OR the new techs/units/wonders added by G&K. Instead, BNW will add its own new techs, units, wonders, and technical systems. The 2 dlcs are meant to be used together, but BNW will still be work without G&K. For instance, if you don't have G&K and purchase BNW, your trade routes will work like the trade routes do for someone who has both dlcs. EXCEPT your trade routes will not carry your religion to the target city, as they would for an owner of both dlcs.

But to answer the question, yes you will be able to use both dlcs together.

That is incorrect it will include religion, espionage and 100HP per units. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=490854

I think you need to re-read that article. It lists CHANGES to the religion and espionage systems, and the part where the moderator posts that BNW will include features from G&K, he attributes that info to an online news site.

If that info were from a reliable source,say, someone from Firaxis, then Shack News would have quoted him, which the moderator would have done as well, to relay the info's reliability. As it stands, those are simply assumptions made from looking at sceenshots, without taking into consideration that the 2 dlcs will work in concert with one another.

Also, how would including the features from a previous dlc in a new one make any financial sense? Why would they allow someone who didn't buy G&K access to the systems included in it? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Not likely. They want that money. It's all common sense really.

I apologize if I've come off sounding patronizing or whatever, just pointing out that the screenshots they've been showing may just be from a game that is running both dlcs. We'll just have to see on July 9th.
Mazey Jun 6, 2013 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by pandoradog22:
Also, how would including the features from a previous dlc in a new one make any financial sense? Why would they allow someone who didn't buy G&K access to the systems included in it? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Not likely. They want that money. It's all common sense really.
They did it with Civ IV. The second expansion contained the first almost entirely.

The reason being, if you try and keep the features seperate, you either have to keep them completely seperate (which means no religion along trade routes and things like that) or work twice as hard checking for bugs in the various combinations of expansions people might have.
Last edited by Mazey; Jun 6, 2013 @ 8:00pm
Popcorn Soda55 Jun 6, 2013 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by pandoradog22:
Originally posted by Popcorn Soda55:

That is incorrect it will include religion, espionage and 100HP per units. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=490854

I think you need to re-read that article. It lists CHANGES to the religion and espionage systems, and the part where the moderator posts that BNW will include features from G&K, he attributes that info to an online news site.

If that info were from a reliable source,say, someone from Firaxis, then Shack News would have quoted him, which the moderator would have done as well, to relay the info's reliability. As it stands, those are simply assumptions made from looking at sceenshots, without taking into consideration that the 2 dlcs will work in concert with one another.

Also, how would including the features from a previous dlc in a new one make any financial sense? Why would they allow someone who didn't buy G&K access to the systems included in it? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Not likely. They want that money. It's all common sense really.

I apologize if I've come off sounding patronizing or whatever, just pointing out that the screenshots they've been showing may just be from a game that is running both dlcs. We'll just have to see on July 9th.

Umm it has to be true because the only way to get information about BNW is from Firaxis.
http://www.shacknews.com/article/78473/civilization-5-devs-on-forging-a-brave-new-world heres the link for it.

"In a way, Brave New World is the other half of Civ 5's last expansion, Gods and Kings. The two are are complementary in the pieces of the game they address--so much so that Brave New World will include many of Gods and Kings' underlying systems for players who didn't buy the first expansion. The second is really meant to work with the first, combining to create a marked shift in the experience."

keyword here "underlying" thats why we can assume that BNW will include religion, espionage, and 100hps.
Last edited by Popcorn Soda55; Jun 6, 2013 @ 8:32pm
robotspacezombie Jun 6, 2013 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by Popcorn Soda55:
Originally posted by pandoradog22:

I think you need to re-read that article. It lists CHANGES to the religion and espionage systems, and the part where the moderator posts that BNW will include features from G&K, he attributes that info to an online news site.

If that info were from a reliable source,say, someone from Firaxis, then Shack News would have quoted him, which the moderator would have done as well, to relay the info's reliability. As it stands, those are simply assumptions made from looking at sceenshots, without taking into consideration that the 2 dlcs will work in concert with one another.

Also, how would including the features from a previous dlc in a new one make any financial sense? Why would they allow someone who didn't buy G&K access to the systems included in it? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Not likely. They want that money. It's all common sense really.

I apologize if I've come off sounding patronizing or whatever, just pointing out that the screenshots they've been showing may just be from a game that is running both dlcs. We'll just have to see on July 9th.

Umm it has to be true because the only way to get information about BNW is from Firaxis.

Or through looking at screenshots and making assumptions. You no, just like when the moderator stated "We can assume from screenshots...." But this was just pointing out flawed logic. Sorry, but don't immediately trust everything you see on the internet without some solid proof. Also-

Originally posted by Mazey:
Originally posted by pandoradog22:
Also, how would including the features from a previous dlc in a new one make any financial sense? Why would they allow someone who didn't buy G&K access to the systems included in it? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Not likely. They want that money. It's all common sense really.
They did it with Civ IV. The second expansion contained the first almost entirely.

The reason being, if you try and keep the features seperate, you either have to keep them completely seperate (which means no religion along trade routes and things like that) or work twice as hard checking for bugs in the various combinations of expansions people might have.

Sorry, I didn't play Civ IV, and as such, had no knowledge of how they handled their dlcs. It just didn't make sense to me that they would include the main systems added by G&K in BNW. Also, now I'm a bit miffed that I paid for G&K, and the systems that were the main reason I bought it are being added in another dlc, one that I'll have to pay for too. Well actually, I've already paid for it..... ah well, I'd still rather have bought both than just one. But I guess that means I was wrong, so sorry for the argument.
Thaiden Jun 6, 2013 @ 8:50pm 
I hope you get 'something' for having both G&K and BNW because otherwise they are just saying FU to everyone who bought G&K.
Popcorn Soda55 Jun 6, 2013 @ 9:11pm 
I'm sorry but I dont get it why do you think this artical is fake?. http://www.shacknews.com/article/78473/civilization-5-devs-on-forging-a-brave-new-world
Twelvefield Jun 6, 2013 @ 9:55pm 
They screwed over everybody who bought Warlords by publishing the infinitely better BTS. Oh well, whoop-de-do.
robotspacezombie Jun 6, 2013 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by Popcorn Soda55:
I'm sorry but I dont get it why do you think this artical is fake?. http://www.shacknews.com/article/78473/civilization-5-devs-on-forging-a-brave-new-world

I don't, not anymore. Before, it made no sense to me that Firaxis would add the foundational elements of a previous dlc into the newest one, but after learning that they have actually done this before in Civ IV, I have no doubts as to this article's authenticity. I'm sorry for starting an argument, really I am. I hope I didn't offend you or whatever, that was definitely NOT my intention. The above comment of mine was more of a general tip, if the writer of the article doesn't provide any sources or didn't have first hand experience, you should be a little cautious of that article. Again, sorry for the argument.
Mazey Jun 7, 2013 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Thaiden:
I hope you get 'something' for having both G&K and BNW because otherwise they are just saying FU to everyone who bought G&K.
If you just have BNW you miss out on the 9 civs that came with G&K. So that's... something.
robotspacezombie Jun 7, 2013 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Mazey:
Originally posted by Thaiden:
I hope you get 'something' for having both G&K and BNW because otherwise they are just saying FU to everyone who bought G&K.
If you just have BNW you miss out on the 9 civs that came with G&K. So that's... something.

I know BNW adds religion, espionage, and the 100 hp thing, but does it add all the new units/techs or wonders added by G&K? Haven't heard anything about that.
ModusPwnens Dec 2, 2013 @ 12:06pm 
This topic is at the top of Google search results regardling G&K versus Brave New World and yet has some very bad information being tossed around in here. With the traffic from the sale going on, it's important that people understand what they're getting when they buy.

Just to set the final record straight for anyone crusing through here from Google:

The very first reply by Bart is 100% correct: Brave New World includes and improves upon all of the game mechanics introduced in G&K. The only thing absent are the Civilizations that were introduced in G&K.

You will NOT, for instance, be missing religion if you bought BNW and not Gods and Kings.

Originally posted by pandoradog22:
For instance, if you don't have G&K and purchase BNW, your trade routes will work like the trade routes do for someone who has both dlcs. EXCEPT your trade routes will not carry your religion to the target city, as they would for an owner of both dlcs.

This is 100% false. Everything stated by this poster should be ignored.

Just want to use this topic as a shining example of :

"If you don't know the answer to someone's question, don't provide false information to everyone reading it by conjecturing."
Last edited by ModusPwnens; Dec 2, 2013 @ 12:08pm
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