Spore18 Mar 24, 2013 @ 8:18am
Civ5 or 4?
I'm not sure if I want to get Civ5 or Civ4. Which one is better? I'm going to get one of them but I will be getting either the base Civ5 or Civ4 plus the DLC.
Update: Cheapness won out and I got Civ5 Gold on Gamefly for $12.50. I may still get Civ4 though.
Last edited by Spore18; Mar 27, 2013 @ 2:07pm
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kalfear Mar 24, 2013 @ 8:27am 
Im kinda bias to Civ 4 personally :)
But Civ 5 is a completely different experience I find as Civ 4 is so detailed on Religions and influence

Different games with their own experience.

Civ 5 seems so far to be more like the original games
Azedenkae Mar 24, 2013 @ 8:40am 
Hm... I like Civ 5, for two main reasons - the hexagonal system, and the reworked combat system. Rather than stacking a variety of units on top of each other as much as possible (or something of the sorts), there's now heaps of strategy involved, and it's really, really nice. Still have the 'epic' feel of Civ 1-4, but well, yeah. :D
chevmech Mar 24, 2013 @ 9:01am 
I feel 4 provides a deeper experience- and I have way too many hours logged but I have been playing 5 more because it's just beautiful. The problem with most tbs games in my opinion, is that you are trading art for depth. Games like Hearts of Iron are superbly deep but the graphic models menus,and maps are just plain dated and ugly. As more content is released on 5, the less I find myself playing 4. Similarly, Since the release of several 4x space titles like Endless Space and Soase, my copy of moo2 has been moth-balled as well.
Spore18 Mar 24, 2013 @ 9:04am 
Huh. So far what I'm hearing is that this is a harder choice than I realized. Well, I suppose I'll just listen to some more opinions. Thanks to the people that have taken the time to give me theirs and keep them coming!
DICKOLA TESLUT Mar 24, 2013 @ 10:03am 
Get the complete version of Civ V and you will not be sorry. The only real complaint I have is that the AI in Civ V is almost always going to declare war on you, but honestly the past few games I've played they are not as bad. Whatever the case may be, it's much much easier to get into playing Civ V than Civ IV.
NOTE Mar 24, 2013 @ 10:11am 
I have been playing Civ 4 at least one LAN game a month for years. It is one of the best games ever and we have not mastered it yet (playing Civ since 2). Civ V I have only really played through one full game since buying but my sense is that it is much nicer to look at, but the depth is also increased in terms of the military tactics. I believe the guy responsible for those changes worked on a great turn based wargame (Steel Panthers if I remember) so the terrain and positioning of your units matters, whereas in older Civ games you would just put all your units on a single tile as a 'stack'. In Civ 5 you keep archers and seige weapons in the rear and cavalry on the flanks and such. Hope that helps. Also the Gods and Kings expansion adds a lot of depth by adding religion and espionage.
Spel-Galten Mar 24, 2013 @ 10:34am 
At the time of the release of Civ V I would say IV (with the expansions ofcourse). With God and Kings it's a much closer race. There are some things I miss when playing Civ V but when I go back to Civ IV now I really can't get in to it. Civ V grows on you.

The one unit per tile is a thing to get used to but I love it and recuires some tactical thinking instead of the usual Stack of Doom from Civ IV. Love the early Axemen/Catapult-stack but it gets old pretty fast...

With the expansion coming during the summer I'm feeling that finally Civ V will surpass Civ IV both in mind and heart. The only thing I still get annoyed with is the stupid AI even att higher difficulties, and the limited diplomacy. I'm not saying that it is worse than Civ IV but it is standing out. The diplomacy is a major thing in the new expansion so I', hoping the issue with stupid AI is resolved once and for all.

// G
Spore18 Mar 24, 2013 @ 11:39am 
Get the complete version of Civ V and you will not be sorry. The only real complaint I have is that the AI in Civ V is almost always going to declare war on you, but honestly the past few games I've played they are not as bad. Whatever the case may be, it's much much easier to get into playing Civ V than Civ IV.


Originally posted by Spel-Galten:
At the time of the release of Civ V I would say IV (with the expansions ofcourse). With God and Kings it's a much closer race. There are some things I miss when playing Civ V but when I go back to Civ IV now I really can't get in to it. Civ V grows on you.

The one unit per tile is a thing to get used to but I love it and recuires some tactical thinking instead of the usual Stack of Doom from Civ IV. Love the early Axemen/Catapult-stack but it gets old pretty fast...

With the expansion coming during the summer I'm feeling that finally Civ V will surpass Civ IV both in mind and heart. The only thing I still get annoyed with is the stupid AI even att higher difficulties, and the limited diplomacy. I'm not saying that it is worse than Civ IV but it is standing out. The diplomacy is a major thing in the new expansion so I', hoping the issue with stupid AI is resolved once and for all.

// G
Well I'm only willing to spend up to $30 so it would either be the basic Civ5 vs all the DLC that comes with Civ4. Does that mean that Civ4 would be vastly superior?
hward8 Mar 24, 2013 @ 11:55am 
Honestly i adore both games and i would have to say that Civ v wins in my opinion because of the hexagons and due to the fact you dont lose your borders when you capture an enemy city or because of culture influence. I like the leaders more in Civ iv and a lot of the wonders are more rewarding in civ iv
Rob Mar 24, 2013 @ 12:29pm 
Honestly if you can wait it out, checking slickdeals.net, steam's daily and weekly sales, and gamestop's daily's you could probably get both for $30. But again that would require patience.
matthewameluxen Mar 24, 2013 @ 12:33pm 
The one flaw in these comparisons is comparing Civ5 vanilla to Civ4 with all expansions (and mods). If you are looking for the thrifty route, go with Civ4. G&K greatly enhanced Civ5 and no doubt BNW will likely do the same, but 4 will be more "complete" for the money.
Spore18 Mar 24, 2013 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Rob:
Honestly if you can wait it out, checking slickdeals.net, steam's daily and weekly sales, and gamestop's daily's you could probably get both for $30. But again that would require patience.
Wow thanks for the tip! I found Civ5 Gold for $12.50! I might just get them both!
Overlord Cole Mar 24, 2013 @ 2:02pm 
civ 4 works much better and is VERY fun only IF you get all of the DLC. civ 5 is so slow when switching turns and doing everything, its just not that fun after turn 500 when the whole world is revealed and it lags and takes forever for the AI to do things, but in civ 4 at turn 1000 its still very VERY fast and doesnt slow down.
Twelvefield Mar 24, 2013 @ 5:10pm 
Civ IV has a much better multiplayer game than Civ V, which is why I prefer Civ V.

That line never gets old for me.

Honestly, get both, play both, masterwork games both.
Spore18 Mar 24, 2013 @ 5:48pm 
Originally posted by Twelvefield:
Civ IV has a much better multiplayer game than Civ V, which is why I prefer Civ V.

That line never gets old for me.

Honestly, get both, play both, masterwork games both.
Well, if there's a good sale, I will, but for the moment I have Civ5 and I'm not getting Civ4.
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