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Burninator Mar 28, 2014 @ 7:50pm
Ken Levine says Sex=bad Violence=Good (spoilers)
Remember this? "Ken Levine, Elizabeth’s creator, says it’s not cool happening upon her in porn, and likens it to coming across porn of your own daughter, noting that he “die[s] a little inside with every page view.”

So Ken's ok with himself (as writer) subjecting his daughter to long drawn-out explicit torture ending in her death, but doesn't like seeing her naked or having sex? How messed up is that?

I thought that puritanical crap ended a long time ago...
Last edited by Burninator; Mar 28, 2014 @ 7:59pm
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He's only getting paid for one of them.:B1:
Bellomy Mar 28, 2014 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
He's only getting paid for one of them.:B1:

Ha! I laughed.
Oberon Mar 28, 2014 @ 8:50pm 
Originally posted by Burninator:
So Ken's ok with himself (as writer) subjecting his daughter to long drawn-out explicit torture ending in her death, but doesn't like seeing her naked or having sex? How messed up is that?

...Elizabeth is a video game character, and thus, not actually his daughter.
CatmasterTrash Mar 28, 2014 @ 9:17pm 
That's terrible that Elizabeth is in porn! Sickening! Who would do such a thing? What is the website address? lol
Anelace Mar 28, 2014 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by EvilDead579:
That's terrible that Elizabeth is in porn! Sickening! Who would do such a thing? What is the website address? lol
-_-


Though, I think it comes down to a matter of "what I intended her for."

He's okay subjecting her to violence because that's what the character's meant to do. Pornography is not. Plus, the violence and suffering adds to the story. Ergo, the porn, which was made solely to satisfy people's sexual desires, is not something of which he approves.
Well maybe if he had meant it we could have had Bioshock: Oldboy.
Bite Mar 28, 2014 @ 10:08pm 
I remember reading that article when it first came out, it always felt more like Ken joking rather than implying he feels Liz is his daughter.
Bellomy Mar 28, 2014 @ 10:14pm 
Originally posted by Coppermantis:
Originally posted by EvilDead579:
That's terrible that Elizabeth is in porn! Sickening! Who would do such a thing? What is the website address? lol
-_-


Though, I think it comes down to a matter of "what I intended her for."

He's okay subjecting her to violence because that's what the character's meant to do. Pornography is not. Plus, the violence and suffering adds to the story. Ergo, the porn, which was made solely to satisfy people's sexual desires, is not something of which he approves.

This is probably the best serious answer.
Eat3n Mar 28, 2014 @ 10:30pm 
How come no one is asking the real question? Why is Ken Levine looking at Elizabeth porn to begin with it? The quote above says he dies with every page view...well if you don't want to see it why the hell are you looking at it?
Anelace Mar 28, 2014 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by -Eaten-:
How come no one is asking the real question? Why is Ken Levine looking at Elizabeth porn to begin with it? The quote above says he dies with every page view...well if you don't want to see it why the hell are you looking at it?
That's actually a good question, haha.
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Commiss4r Mar 28, 2014 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by -Eaten-:
How come no one is asking the real question? Why is Ken Levine looking at Elizabeth porn to begin with it? The quote above says he dies with every page view...well if you don't want to see it why the hell are you looking at it?

it is not hard at all to stumble across r34 fanart off of a regular web/image search....it's literally too easy because it's bound to show up.

Also he did not put his character throught torture and violence to satisfy a desire--he did it to tell an amazing story. Writers put a lot into creating characters, and that is exactly why we can root for them and see apart of ourselves in them, or want to aspire to the great acts of valour they perform. From a certain perspective, Elizabeth IS like his own daughter. Hell, most of the game is about the lengths a man will go to to protect his daughter (on both sides of the coin).
Last edited by Commiss4r; Mar 28, 2014 @ 11:44pm
Anelace Mar 28, 2014 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by CommissarRotke:
Originally posted by -Eaten-:
How come no one is asking the real question? Why is Ken Levine looking at Elizabeth porn to begin with it? The quote above says he dies with every page view...well if you don't want to see it why the hell are you looking at it?

it is not hard at all to find r34 fanart off of a regular web/image search....
Yeah, but why was he searching for it???

Meh, I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason. But the wording was a little funny, eh.
Alcator Mar 29, 2014 @ 2:05am 
Guys, you're idiots.

Actually, FANS were sending him emails with direct links and even attached images, ASKING him what he thinks about it.

DrZann Mar 29, 2014 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by Alcator:
Guys, you're idiots.

Actually, FANS were sending him emails with direct links and even attached images, ASKING him what he thinks about it.
I guess the old show biz adage is true. You get the fans you deserve.
nutcase gooner Mar 29, 2014 @ 6:12am 
And then Ken Levine discovered the true purpose of the internet
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