Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword
Anunaki Oct 31, 2012 @ 11:42am
Civ 4 to Civ 5
Wow....i stareted with civ 5, and it looks better graphics wise than this one. But it appears that civ 5 sucks compared to civ4s complexity.
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Edsmasha Nov 3, 2012 @ 5:03am 
Yup, and Civ V is sloooow!
early game wait time with max AI in both was 5 seconds in Civ V but less then 1 in Civ IV on my PC Imagine the late game!
KwisatzHaderach Nov 4, 2012 @ 12:53pm 
I like the combat in Civ5 (one unit per square) but the land development seems to be broken. I always and up with all farms...
Nov 5, 2012 @ 3:35am 




It would be nice if everything in Civ IV and DLC are mixed with City States, Policys and combat system, new civs of Civ V and graphics that do not slow down the game.
Ragan Nov 8, 2012 @ 8:12am 
Civ V and Civ IV are very different...it took me a long time to embrace Civ V. I admit combat is more fun and easy in Civ V, but that's also the problem with it...combat in Civ IV is just epic. It actually feels like a great battle.

The graphics on Civ V are better, sure...but if you're playing it on low graphics settings or strategic view, what's the point? It looks awful then.

I love Civ V, but I will always come back to this one.
TheEvilDi Dec 26, 2012 @ 8:58am 
Well... As for me, I started playing Civilization II) But then I've found fifth game. Idefiitely enjoyed it, but found it rather 'for dummies', 'cause winning there, as I can see, is easier(definitely, talking 'bout local game).
But then I've found Civ IV... As for me, the most surprising thing was religion. I adored this game even more... And the most funny thing - I dunno why))
ModernFluff Jan 15, 2013 @ 8:33am 
I liked Civ 5 more, Civ 4 is as complex as a mobile game. Evendo Civ 4 is alot faster in the beginning, which is something I like, there isn't any ''wow this is intense' fights.
Walter Matthau Jan 28, 2013 @ 7:05pm 
I don't want to hate on Civ V, games franchises have a right to evolve.
That said, I hated Civ V. Civ IV BTS just blows it away.
Overlord Cole Mar 4, 2013 @ 5:52pm 
i enjoy this one way more than civ 5, i mean seeing statues and wonders and walls around my cities just make it cooler... civ 5 has a little bit of city customization, but it doesnt feel as diverse as civ 4, plus civ 4 is more complex with religion, govt types, and many more civic types and stuff, civ 5 is good for a beginner to get them into the series cause its simple, but i feel like civ 4 is the better game... plus civ 5 is wayy wayyyyy too slow.
granlongo Mar 5, 2013 @ 7:57pm 
I think that with a little work a mod can be achieved in order to make a BTS with some civ V features, I´d like to create a civ IV mod, anyone knows of an editor I could use?
Busithoth May 27, 2013 @ 6:38pm 
I pre-ordered the collector's tin of Civ-IV when it was announced. I grew sick of it quickly and gifted it to a friend. I went back to it after Alpha Centauri was losing its luster and found that Beyond the sword et al. had made the game much more palatable for me. I bought Civ V, and even the expansions hoping my experience would be repeated, but I haven't played any Civ V game to completion. I'm sure the industrial age looks swell, but.
RabbiWolfram Jun 6, 2013 @ 10:30am 
Couldn't have said it better. Civ 4 BTS is so much more diverse in religon, culture, just about everything.
Lipostracos Jun 19, 2013 @ 6:50pm 
Civ IV and V are awesome
Bernard76 Jun 21, 2013 @ 8:58am 
My first steps with civ it's, civ 4 i really like it so... i by complite edition with bts most good by and with steam and mobdb Desura i see other's mod like caveman to cosmos etc ... after i by civ 5 i like it but diferent thant civ 4 ,graphic realy good on civ 5 but if they do a mixte of civ 4 and 5 with best of boot, i think it is better ....but i don t have the last pack for civ5 like god's and king's ... so if some guy's like to tell me how is the last pack of civ 5 it is ....go a head. t.y
[REaW]Greatsaga Jul 10, 2013 @ 11:55am 
I downloaded the Civ V demo and... Quite honestly, Civ V isn't THAT bad... but there is a lot about the game I find really odd. The graphics, albeit are kinda cool, are also at the same time really odd for the game - I almost feel like they took cartoonish graphics and tried to make it look realistic, which doesn't mix well. I didn't play that much yet, I plan on continuing my game for a bit (for as long as the demo lets me, I would assume it lets you play until a certain era - or maybe the entire demo game, idk).

The tile system is a little odd, it being hexagonal tiles instead of square, though that does introduce more ways to go in for an attack, especially only being able to have 1 military unit per tile - which in itself is a cool idea, it would make you think twice about using this unit or this one (such as catapults, which become much more vulnerable being alone than in a stack) and would reduce the ability to take a city in one fell swoop.

The tech system also seemed a little odd to me, and it almost felt like some techs were less responsible for growth in V than they are in IV... idk, like I said, I haven't played that much yet.

There is a lot more I could talk about, but I don't want to list everything. The last thing I will mention is the UI, it feels almost clunky and "enlarged", I don't really know how to exactly describe it, but the Civ IV BTS UI seems a bit more... usuable, idk.

Originally posted by granlongo:
I think that with a little work a mod can be achieved in order to make a BTS with some civ V features, I´d like to create a civ IV mod, anyone knows of an editor I could use?

It would be cool to see some of the features from Civ V in BTS, I agree - one thing I thought was cool (but possibly overpowered for the gameplay of BTS) was the ability to allow your land units to venture into coastal water tiles, though I am not sure if it requires a coastal city, which if it does... kinda defeats the purpose (well, with the slight benefit of not having to support a navy unit... but, is that even worth the risk of loosing your land units?)

Also, the natural wonders are a really cool idea brought into the game - especially the imediate bonus to your capital for discovering one. Though, I feel like the wonders should be much more... tempting for city to use.
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MisterSnaz Jul 13, 2013 @ 11:19am 
Ohhh a difficult question ..i like it.Well for me i adore civ 4 with beyond the sword expansion.Loved the religion and watching my cities grow under my gaze is a lot of fun.In civ 5 the battles are epic and fun ,the city states added something new,natural wonders were interesting but something just felt for lack of a better word ..off and i always go back to Civ 4 which i still play.
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