Simon Sep 17, 2013 @ 10:10am
Old Games Being Bugged
I bought Tomb Raider Anniversary two days ago and it's bugged and the bugs on the PC version are known. I also recently bought the Thief Deadly Shadows game on steam and I couldn't get that running in widescreen. I cannot believe that STEAM sell games that have known glitches. How hard is it to do some kind of patching and ensure the games have these known glitches ironed out. The Tom Raider is unplayable in places and you have to press "esc" repeatedly in order to get the prompts to trigger and then you need luck doing this to get three-consecutive quicktime events to operate in order for you to progress. It's monstrous that they have audacity to sell games in which these issues have been well known for ages. If there are issues to do with newer operating systems then surely these should be addressed before the product is re-sold. I am disgusted that I bought a game that I am struggling to actually play. The anonymity and complexity of the steam email system add to the frustration.
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Dr.Larry Dec 8, 2013 @ 4:04pm 
I bought this game a while ago. I remember it running perfectly on my first playthrough with no issues or game breaking bugs but coming back to it this time around it's really buggy. There are game breaking bugs in it. I'm about halfway through(Egypt I think), stuck in a room where I need to grapple a trap door to pull it down and open it then grapple across and jump to the platform. It bugged though so I can't grapple onto the trap door to open it. I can attach my grapple to anything else like the wood on the door but not the actual grapple point! Because of this the most I can do is lower it partially but not all the way making it impossible to get to.

Very buggy game but it was very good... Such a shame too... I guess they patched it(I noticed the QTEs were a lot easier making it impossible to fail them) and broke the game in the process. :/
Simon Dec 13, 2013 @ 2:58am 
Surely they have an obligation to do something with the games to just ensure they run ok. I had the same problem with the quick-time events where the game wouldn't show me what keys to press so I was clueless and just ended up endlessly repeating while hitting keys all over my keyboard in the hope of continuing. Same with Thief which I bought, it wouldn't even scale up to run on my laptop. I know nothing about computers but how hard is it to make the game run at 1600 by 900? I assumed that becuase they are re-selling them they would fine tune them in some way but it seems they don't. I learned a long time ago, not to buy games from previous operating systems, they never run (recently bought Fallout and it crashed immediately, even patched it and it still crashed) but I thought that making a purchase via Steam would guarantee playability.
Dr.Larry Dec 13, 2013 @ 7:58am 
Old games = GOG.com for compatability. They patch them themselves(Although some patches are from cracked versions but they're safe and tested) to make sure they run on current OSes.

I got TR:A to work. I had to pretty much spam the grappling hook at different angles for around 15minutes but I got it in the end. Really good game just a bit buggy in fairness.
autarch Dec 21, 2013 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Larry:
I bought this game a while ago. I remember it running perfectly on my first playthrough with no issues or game breaking bugs but coming back to it this time around it's really buggy. There are game breaking bugs in it. I'm about halfway through(Egypt I think), stuck in a room where I need to grapple a trap door to pull it down and open it then grapple across and jump to the platform. It bugged though so I can't grapple onto the trap door to open it. I can attach my grapple to anything else like the wood on the door but not the actual grapple point! Because of this the most I can do is lower it partially but not all the way making it impossible to get to.

I think the trick here is to use the aiming (right stick click or Z (I think)) to aim the grappling hook. I had the same problem you had at first.
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Simon Dec 22, 2013 @ 3:04am 
I bought Payday: The Heist yesterday and every time it launches it launches as if it has never run before then the installation of the Nvidia Physix tells me that there is a newer installation and it cannot load then it doesn't launch. I then have to re-launch and it runs until the next time I want to play. Can't STEAM get all this synchronised?
Morello Jan 8 @ 6:17am 
Further on in the same level there's a part where you need to jump across to a ledge but everytime I hit the side and fall down. I havnt been able to use someone elses save because it doesn't work with seam for some reason and the flying cheat doesn't work. This really is a game breaking bug and I have no idea how to get past this. I've had to just put the game down like many others I've bought from steam because I get to a point in the game and it just bugs to the point where I can't continue. I'm a huge supporter of steam (and dont think I didn't see that video with microsoft and sony...XD) but please start patching this games. I never played Tomb Raider back in the day I'm still yet to complete these titles. Very disapointing at the moment guys :(
Simon Jan 8 @ 8:09am 
Yes, you'd think that the people who market the game would get those who produce it to bring it up to date with the current versions of windows, etc. Basically, it seems to me, that you cannot play games on the PC unless you play them with the operating system that was current when the game was released. I played Thief and I couldn't even get it full screen. I don't know anything about PCs but how hard can it be to get the game to scale up to current screen resolutions? One game I got wouldn't even play past the initial load screen where it loaded, then you got a cut-scene and you would press forward, then the cut scene would kick in and it would freeze. I uninstalled the tomb raider. It's impossible, on STEAM, to get any kind of response, it's just a vast automated bureaucracy like much these days. It's easier and easier to buy things and harder and harder to get any kind of redress if anything goes wrong.
Dr.Larry Jan 8 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Simon:
Yes, you'd think that the people who market the game would get those who produce it to bring it up to date with the current versions of windows, etc. Basically, it seems to me, that you cannot play games on the PC unless you play them with the operating system that was current when the game was released. I played Thief and I couldn't even get it full screen. I don't know anything about PCs but how hard can it be to get the game to scale up to current screen resolutions? One game I got wouldn't even play past the initial load screen where it loaded, then you got a cut-scene and you would press forward, then the cut scene would kick in and it would freeze. I uninstalled the tomb raider. It's impossible, on STEAM, to get any kind of response, it's just a vast automated bureaucracy like much these days. It's easier and easier to buy things and harder and harder to get any kind of redress if anything goes wrong.

Full screen probably has nothing to do with the game itself but the fact that Thief is so old it doesn't support the standard 1920x1080 resolution. I'm running Windows 7 and pretty much every game on my STEAM list works. The only game I had problems with was Ghost Master... but that problem was because of the STEAM UI.

Also, it's not up to STEAM to patch these games. They're merely a seller. It's up to the developer themselves to patch the games. GOG.com only patches games specifically to run on newer OSes to fill a niche, otherwise they wouldn't have cut into the market as they did. STEAM sells newer games and some older, patched games(Lately) but most of the old games on STEAM that have problems on newer machines or OSes are games that have been in the catalogue for a long time. Honestly though, there haven't been many games on STEAM that are incomptabile with Windows 7 64bit. I've had some problems myself but that's due to hardware issues with the game.
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