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WolfBlitz:Gorilaz 2013年9月25日 6時58分
ESO Beta
IS any one in it yet? cant wait for the game but has enyone mad it to the beta?
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Cool Miku 2013年9月25日 8時40分 
actually, wrong forum...
go to the corresponding ESO forum, it might not be on steam though...
Matt 2013年9月25日 8時42分 
are people allowed to say if they are in the beta?
Trigger 2013年9月25日 10時08分 
Gag orders in place
Volun 2013年9月25日 11時53分 
rabidmango の投稿を引用:
are people allowed to say if they are in the beta?
Yes, but they can't say anything else about the game IIRC.
WolfBlitz:Gorilaz 2013年9月25日 15時52分 
Still IM wondering if any one is in the beta
Nick Naughty 2013年9月25日 18時41分 
happyman2425 の投稿を引用:
Still IM wondering if any one is in the beta
I don't think anyone cares for the beta or the game.

There announcement of the pay to play became the let down, and it makes zenimax look money grabbing.
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WolfBlitz:Gorilaz 2013年9月25日 21時05分 
Nick Naughty の投稿を引用:
happyman2425 の投稿を引用:
Still IM wondering if any one is in the beta
I don't think anyone cares for the beta or the game.

There announcement of the pay to play became the let down, and it makes zenimax look money grabbing.

Whats a play to play
Nick Naughty 2013年9月26日 7時26分 
happyman2425 の投稿を引用:
Nick Naughty の投稿を引用:
I don't think anyone cares for the beta or the game.

There announcement of the pay to play became the let down, and it makes zenimax look money grabbing.

Whats a play to play
Well play to play is nothing.

But pay to play is a monthly subscription.
Matt 2013年9月26日 8時35分 
After watching several free-to-play MMOs waste away into contentless drivel, I'm happy to pay a subscription *if, and only if* the content is both excellent and regular.
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Nick Naughty 2013年9月26日 9時31分 
rabidmango の投稿を引用:
After watching several free-to-play MMOs waste away into contentless drivel, I'm happy to pay a subscription *if, and only if* the content is both excellent and regular.
Try checking the pay-to-play mmo's and see that most went to free-to-play.

Eso will be no exception considering it lost most of its protential player base by announcing pay-to-play.
Matt 2013年9月26日 9時41分 
Nick Naughty の投稿を引用:
rabidmango の投稿を引用:
After watching several free-to-play MMOs waste away into contentless drivel, I'm happy to pay a subscription *if, and only if* the content is both excellent and regular.
Try checking the pay-to-play mmo's and see that most went to free-to-play.

Eso will be no exception considering it lost most of its protential player base by announcing pay-to-play.

I think "most" is an important qualifier. :-) It will probably go f2p, but I'd rather it try the sub model first. Eve is a great example of a successful subscription MMO.
Nick Naughty 2013年9月26日 11時35分 
rabidmango の投稿を引用:
Nick Naughty の投稿を引用:
Try checking the pay-to-play mmo's and see that most went to free-to-play.

Eso will be no exception considering it lost most of its protential player base by announcing pay-to-play.

I think "most" is an important qualifier. :-) It will probably go f2p, but I'd rather it try the sub model first. Eve is a great example of a successful subscription MMO.
Buy-to-play is the model it should have been.

Eso isn't unique enough (Eve) or popular enough (WoW) to warrent a subscription.

There is no real hype or support anymore, the game will be released and die as it turns to free-to-play (considered dead mmo) with its small supporting player base who enjoy paying a company for a bad decision in the hope that something good might happen.

History does have a habit of repeating itself and yet zenimax decides on a subscription model after so many mmo's have boldly failed before. Even the mighty World of Warcraft is suffering with sub losses but is still able to maintain that subscription through sheer numbers, what hope does eso have when it hasn't even been released and a giant of an mmo is losing its player base.

Well the good news is that eso will be released on pc/mac, xbox one and ps4, however the bad news is it isn't cross platform, so they are all on seperate servers and can't play/interact with each other. Adding the fact that xbox one and ps4 will have just been released, there won't be that many console players around period, not forgetting players who actually own one of the two consoles with the eso game. To make it worst there is a subscription fee for the live/psn features depending on the console, meaning players coming from the consoles have to pay for two subscriptions, one to playstation or microsoft the other to zenimax just to play eso.

There are too many con's and not enough pro's and zenimax is the biggest con with eso.
Matt 2013年9月26日 13時49分 
Nick Naughty の投稿を引用:
Buy-to-play is the model it should have been.

After the disappointment that is GW2, I am skeptical of any model without a subscription. B2P eventually reduces to F2P.

what hope does eso have when it hasn't even been released and a giant of an mmo is losing its player base.

It's possible to have 500,000 subs and still maintain sufficient revenue. Not every game needs to have WoW numbers to survive! :-)

Anyway, we'll see how it turns out soon enough. Nothing any of us can do at this point.
Night Note 2013年9月26日 14時16分 
rabidmango の投稿を引用:
are people allowed to say if they are in the beta?
no, no they are not....
Night Note 2013年9月26日 14時20分 
Nick Naughty の投稿を引用:
rabidmango の投稿を引用:

I think "most" is an important qualifier. :-) It will probably go f2p, but I'd rather it try the sub model first. Eve is a great example of a successful subscription MMO.
Buy-to-play is the model it should have been.

Eso isn't unique enough (Eve) or popular enough (WoW) to warrent a subscription.

There is no real hype or support anymore, the game will be released and die as it turns to free-to-play (considered dead mmo) with its small supporting player base who enjoy paying a company for a bad decision in the hope that something good might happen.

History does have a habit of repeating itself and yet zenimax decides on a subscription model after so many mmo's have boldly failed before. Even the mighty World of Warcraft is suffering with sub losses but is still able to maintain that subscription through sheer numbers, what hope does eso have when it hasn't even been released and a giant of an mmo is losing its player base.

Well the good news is that eso will be released on pc/mac, xbox one and ps4, however the bad news is it isn't cross platform, so they are all on seperate servers and can't play/interact with each other. Adding the fact that xbox one and ps4 will have just been released, there won't be that many console players around period, not forgetting players who actually own one of the two consoles with the eso game. To make it worst there is a subscription fee for the live/psn features depending on the console, meaning players coming from the consoles have to pay for two subscriptions, one to playstation or microsoft the other to zenimax just to play eso.

There are too many con's and not enough pro's and zenimax is the biggest con with eso.
no one will even buy next gen gaming, go to any well known gamer, next gen consol, killed consol gaming.....
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