Mods disillusionment

[yomegonightcore]

I'm really growing tired of the influx of these lore friendly mods that are literally just reskins of existing meshes. Though there are plenty of extremely intuitive mods on the Nexus and Workshop, they're superceded by the stuff you could find with Oblivion modding.

What I mostly mean is that the majority of the armour, clothing, or weapon modifications, even some of the top rated ones on both sites, are either retextures, very slight changes to original meshes, or playing it just way too safe. I liked the flair of Oblivion modding, even with its overwhelming neckbeardium and kawaiifeggotry. I liked the armours, weapons, anims, locales, and quests that would come from Oblivion. Some were pretty mind boggling in scope and creativity. But not with Skyrim. The game is already two years old, anyway.

Again, some exceptions, like Moonpath, etc.

[𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋]

I really don't understand why you think that there are no good mods for Skyrim.

You're talking complete nonesense. Go look. there are plenty of mods. Shut up and if you aren't satisfied, go make your own and then come back here and try to slag off people's efforts to share creativity with the community. It isn't your private showcase that needs to 'improve' to better cater for your needs....like as if you have the right to demand it...go away you annoying idiot.

[𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋]

Incarno, Ahem, I had a couple last night..but seriously, don't ever EVER E V E R..complain about stuff that is F R E E and that was made by damn-hard working individuals of the community, WHATEVER their competency level.

You DO NOT understand the effort that goes into the learning AND the tutoring of others. Just people using up their spare time to help others to just be creative and try new things in the community. If you did understand, you would not be so bloody ungrateful and arrogant as you have demonstrated here.

Please don't think I hate you or anything, but you really ticked me off.
(and a load of other people)

[Dragon]

Can I install side mods to the steam version of Skyrim safely?

[Solomon Hawk]

Hey, Incarno ....
Why not learn how to mod so you can contribute. It isn't easy.
Sounds to me that you prefer originality that "fits" (so do I for that matter).
Seems to me that you have ideas in your head just aching to get out and nobody has remotely made anything you're wanting to see.
I challenge you, learn how and do it. Show us what you've got. Impress us.

[Solomon Hawk]

Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Can I install side mods to the steam version of Skyrim safely?

All I'm going to say is: You're supposed to be able to. That places the responsibility of the mod makers to make it easy to load and play. But, unfortunately, that's not always the case and they can cause problems that you don't want to try fixing.

[𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋]

True, that the workshop does have a filter system in place to help narrow down your search. However, the Advertising of the mods should really be true to the actual mod as much as possible, as I have noticed that there is some misleading marketing out there...making it complex to determine what everything actually is without having to look further into each and every thing. I can empathise there...

The mods themselves though, should be whatever the hell people want to make. If you're not happy, do something yourself. Make your own mod that you want. This isn't an ordering service...the modders are the priority, NOT the downloaders.

It is a creative SHARING community system, not a order picking system that should have stuff you want. Valkar was more polite than me in his comments.

[yomegonightcore]

KL Master Dan StormCat님이 먼저 게시:

I really don't understand why you think that there are no good mods for Skyrim.

You're talking complete nonesense. Go look. there are plenty of mods. Shut up and if you aren't satisfied, go make your own and then come back here and try to slag off people's efforts to share creativity with the community. It isn't your private showcase that needs to 'improve' to better cater for your needs....like as if you have the right to demand it...go away you annoying idiot.

2med
I never said there were barely any mods or only terrible mods out there. Why would I be slagging off people's creativity by making my own mod? I never said anything was my private showcase. Nothing you said made sense to begin with.

Valkar Vagnar님이 먼저 게시:

Hey, Incarno ....
Why not learn how to mod so you can contribute. It isn't easy.
Sounds to me that you prefer originality that "fits" (so do I for that matter).
Seems to me that you have ideas in your head just aching to get out and nobody has remotely made anything you're wanting to see.
I challenge you, learn how and do it. Show us what you've got. Impress us.

I don't mod, but I like writing 1337skript in my spare time.

Most of you are likely illierate. I never said I didn't like any other mods, and I even pointed out some that were pretty great.

KL Master Dan StormCat님이 먼저 게시:

Incarno, Ahem, I had a couple last night..but seriously, don't ever EVER E V E R..complain about stuff that is F R E E and that was made by damn-hard working individuals of the community, WHATEVER their competency level.

You DO NOT understand the effort that goes into the learning AND the tutoring of others. Just people using up their spare time to help others to just be creative and try new things in the community. If you did understand, you would not be so bloody ungrateful and arrogant as you have demonstrated here.

Oh, but I do. Much better than you, anyway.

I said nothing to insult anyone. I just said they have untapped potential. You are ALL extremely sensitive dimwits, I see now.

I thought maybe that this could be an idea thread, or something. But the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ got here first.

[Biff]

Dragon님이 먼저 게시:

Can I install side mods to the steam version of Skyrim safely?

Look for ones that are highly rated, but that interest you. Keep in mind while not the intention of the author, some mods conflict with each other, and in some cases the author knows this and says so in the description. Read through it before subscribing.

[Praxius]

Not to trash on the modding community or anything. I've my fair share of modding experience in other games and have formal training in 3d modelling, animation and a bunch of other things.....

But to be honest, out of all the mods available, I personally only find about 10% of them are worthwhile.

Not that the other 90% are crap.... Not at all, but very few suit my tastes.... Which I'm sure is the same for many in here.

A lot of work goes into getting something to work decently as a mod, but the more mods the merrier. Everybody has different interests and tastes which will no doubt not line up with my own.... The more variety, the more there is to suit people's specific tastes, the more the game will be enjoyed for longer by more players.

If people like downloading and using a re-textured model despite that being one of the more basic starting points of modding.... so be it. Different strokes for different folks.

But for me... some of those mods out there are wasted space..... but that's just my opinion. I could spend hours designing up something for a business here in the sign industry and put all my blood sweat and tears into the project.... and the client can still think it's crap and not like it. The amount of time and effort put into something does not equate to a good end product.... and that's just cold reality, regardless if you're getting paid for those hours you spent, or you're using up your own personal free time. There's always a cost involved with no assurance of any gain in the end.

[Solomon Hawk]

@ Incarno: this is an out of context quote of your own words:
" ... I don't mod, but I like writing 1337skript in my spare time..."
"... Most of you are likely illierate. ... ".

You said nothing offensive? I beg to differ.
Your own words: "illiterate" ... "dimwits" ...
Your words are sarcastic, condecending and insulting.

I doubt you're a paid professional critic with any kind of credentials.
You're obviously expressing your displeasure by starting off with, "I'm really growing tired..." rhetoric, but apparently unaware of the hornets nest you just stirred up. You have the audacity to call them illiterate, dimwits ... "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" .
You sound like a kid with no real discipline and try to come across as superior to others.
Time to shut your mouth and put your own skills to the test buddy.
Stop trying to show others what kind of an ass you are. Be inteligent and smart for a change.
I hope to God you never breed, I'd feel pitty for your children.

[Praxius]

Valkar Vagnar님이 먼저 게시:

@ Incarno: this is an out of context quote of your own words:
" ... I don't mod, but I like writing 1337skript in my spare time..."
"... Most of you are likely illierate. ... ".

You said nothing offensive? I beg to differ.
Your own words: "illiterate" ... "dimwits" ...
Your words are sarcastic, condecending and insulting.

I doubt you're a paid professional critic with any kind of credentials.
You're obviously expressing your displeasure by starting off with, "I'm really growing tired..." rhetoric, but apparently unaware of the hornets nest you just stirred up. You have the audacity to call them illiterate, dimwits ... "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" .
You sound like a kid with no real discipline and try to come across as superior to others.
Time to shut your mouth and put your own skills to the test buddy.
Stop trying to show others what kind of an ass you are. Be intelligent for a change.

Just to play devil's advocate here for a moment, but his OP was expressing an opinion which was not directed towards any specific person and was expressing how it can be a bit bothersome to sift through wads of minor mods to find mods that interest him specifically.

He acknowledged some of the better mods out there and the ones that took a lot of time to do.

He didn't insult anybody nor attempted to start any sort of flame war. The following posts directed at him was what started this whole mess and was of a lynch mob mentality, attacking him for expressing a common issue that I know a few players experience (But seems to be taboo to openly say)

So his reaction seems pretty reasonable considering.

He was told to shut up.... his post was misinterpreted as though he specifically said "There were no good mods for Skyrim" as noted by the first response to his OP.

Then there are assumptions made by others about his knowledge or experience in Modding, which was used as yet another unjustified snipe at him for expressing his opinion.

And then you seem to continue the one-sided attack on him for responding to the level of venom directed at him by pointing out things he did wrong, while seemingly ignoring what was tossed at him, as if those people are more justified.

When he said he didn't say anything offensive, he was referring to his original post.... calling out what he said in response to the insults and attacks already thrown at him after the fact doesn't make any sense, nor justifies the reactions tossed at him in the first place.

Takes two to tango here.

You said:
"Your words are sarcastic, condecending and insulting."

Well look at what he's been given.... he started off perfectly fine and I personally saw nothing sarcastic, condescending or insulting in his OP.

Yeah.... obviously he was expressing his displeasure.... and he's allowed to do that like everybody else in here. Yet somehow he was in the wrong none the less?

Really?

[Brandybuck]

As someone who has made a couple of these mods, let me respond. First of all, I am not a 3D artist. Coming up with new meshes is beyond my capabilities. Second, I create what I myself want. I'm not doing this for you, I'm doing it for me. Third, I try to provide more than just a reskin, but even for those mods that don't, so what? So frigging what? Some people just might want a set of glass armor that is dark so it looks like obsidian instead of being made out of Sprite bottles. Some people might want a bright ebony armor so it looks like they're wearing mithril. Some people might want white archmage robes.

They add a hell of a lot more value to the game than yet another skimpy armor for unrealistic glamdolls.

[Praxius]

Brandybuck님이 먼저 게시:

As someone who has made a couple of these mods, let me respond. First of all, I am not a 3D artist. Coming up with new meshes is beyond my capabilities. Second, I create what I myself want. I'm not doing this for you, I'm doing it for me. Third, I try to provide more than just a reskin, but even for those mods that don't, so what? So frigging what? Some people just might want a set of glass armor that is dark so it looks like obsidian instead of being made out of Sprite bottles. Some people might want a bright ebony armor so it looks like they're wearing mithril. Some people might want white archmage robes.

They add a hell of a lot more value to the game than yet another skimpy armor for unrealistic glamdolls.

Agreed.... can't stand that pin up crap.

Ah... but see there we are.... you and I have expressed our personal distaste for pin up glamdoll mods and he expressed distaste for simple retextured models. So why are we right in what we just did, but he is not?

I'm sure those glam doll crap things took a lot of time to do and perfect, so by the reasoning of some in this discussion, we should praise their work and download their mods to show our support, rather than express our own personal opinions like the OP did.

[𝕊𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄-𝕂𝔸𝕋]

This is the kind of thread that Linkstrife would gobble up in a flash!

[yomegonightcore]

Your all pusedointellecuals. Goml. I am better than all fo you. I write loads of code, and I'm the best modder in the entire Skyrim modding community.