Siegfriedfr 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:20
Newbie getting asshandled
Hello,

I'm currently level 15 but i'm at a point where everytime i go somewhere on a quest, monsters 2-shot me and the damage i do seems very weak compared to how fast they kill me.

My 2-handed is at 43, i have steel armor, and i didn't level up any particular spec nor did invest time in raising anything in particular.

So, wheer did i go wrong ?

Thanks !
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ProFabulous69 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:26 
I would recommend avoiding creatures like bears and trolls until you're a higher level if you've tried fighting them. Bandits should be fairly easy if you time your blocks and bashes well, strafe or jump right before an archer fires (After the bow is fully drawn), and use poisons like paralysis on the bosses. Also, having a strong follower like Lydia will help a bit.
Edit: Also, if you're heavily melee-based, invest greatly in Smithing to improve gear quality.
Última alteração por ProFabulous69; 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:39
[KL] Master Dan [StormCats] 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:29 
That is excellent advice, really top shelf. I love the bit about waiting till the Draw is at maximum...very good :)

Well, I guess to add to this, you could always set your difficulty to easy, but that might just make it go rubbish the other way in being too easy...

The spot on sdvice is to go train up and get a little better, then you can deal with the harder stuff..

I really like how Bethesda have considered this and I would like to see this a lot more...
Última alteração por [KL] Master Dan [StormCats]; 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:30
rayjirdeoxys 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:31 
Maybe get some destruction spells too? Nothing says "leave me alone" quite like launching a fireball at someone.
Major Moolah 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:42 
Random advice:

Use potions. When you enter the inventory, you can drink as many as you want. Always have health potions available, and other buff potions as well. I use a mod that makes potions weigh 0.1 instead of 1.0. I can post a link, unless you think it's cheating to use it

Let others take the blows for you. If you use magic, then summon a creature, and avoid enemies until they attack your minion. Then hit them with all you got. The same goes for followers. They are sturdy, and can take a lot of punishment for you.

Get into the melee rhythm. Two-Handed is a fine choice, but a bit tricky. You cannot use a shield, or a spell, obviously. Block your enemies blows, stagger them with power attacks, and then use normal attacks until you need to stagger them again

Choose your targets. Two-Handed means that wizards cannot stand one second against you in melee, but can fry you if you let them. Kill them first.

Shouts are your friend, shout whenever possible
Última alteração por Major Moolah; 13 Jul, 2013 às 8:43
Grillzilla 13 Jul, 2013 às 9:20 
Get a dog (like Meeker), use your housecarl. They may delay leveling up, and are not terribly stealthy but can save you a lot of hits when you are "young". Two handed swings are slow so it's helpfull to have somebody distracting your opponents. Major Moolahs potions advice is good too.
azumadragon 13 Jul, 2013 às 9:31 
Level up your alchemy. Strong melee isn't going to cut it, so you'll need poisons and potions with multiple buffs. Other than that, stick and move. Strafe around their back. You won't last long going toe to toe with everybody.
dempsey0322 13 Jul, 2013 às 9:36 
start by putting some perks in two handed and heavy armor also avoid encounters with strong enemies such as giants bears and trolls
ninjajump 13 Jul, 2013 às 10:05 
thats all great general advice, but the truth of the matter is that all ES games have worked the same way. they punish you for not choosing a specialty. I don't mean that you have to pick between melee stealth and spells, but you do have to pick two or three skills from amongst those available and use them primarily. grabbing any random skill that seems interesting might be fun for a while but the issue you run into (and that you've already run into) is that you level up too fast. if you pick just a few skills then by the time you hit 15 they may be in the 65-75 range, whereas if you don't specialize then they'll all stay in the low 40s. YOU MUST CHOOSE.

Now then, to solve your current problem without starting over its going to take a bit of time. step one (as above) is to choose a specialty. once that's done take what money you can spare and spend it on levelling up one of those (preferably a combat based skill) at a trainer. do that every time you level for a little while. next, do what it takes to get yourself some new equipment. you should probably have dropped that steel for something better around 11-12. weapons are the most cost effective though so if it comes down to a new weapon or new armor grab the weapon. Go ahead and enchant that weapon with whatever minor enchantment you can manage and try to keep it charged. Finally, grab a follower and a dog if possible and head out. for the time being your goal is not to level so dont mind the fact that they're stealing your experience. what you want is the loot. the shiny shiny loot. this is where you should get your armor.

in terms of what quests you should be taking on i would suggest you play through some of the first civil war quests as the first of those involve you and a large group raiding tombs where you might find some new items without much hassel.

Hope this helps.
hatchet5891 13 Jul, 2013 às 10:13 
Though you haven't been focusing on anything specific to level up, it's not to late to start. Leveling up specific skills is what makes each character unique and powerful and specific things. If you are using two handed and heavy armor, start putting perk points into these and look at other skills you maybe interested in also.
TheNovemberMan 13 Jul, 2013 às 11:44 
learn to fight in 3rd person you see alot more and can react alot faster
Rider 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:09 
I would like to add to all the other already excellent advice offered above is to not ignore STRATEGY. There are many ways to skin a troll or a sabre cat. If there is a trap nearby, use it. If there is another enemy nearby, lead the whatever is kicking your butt to it. In my very first game, I antagonized a dragon into following me to a powerful mage and he killed that pesky magician for me. Then his health was low enough for me to deal with him.

Recently when starting a new game I took on a quest a bit too early and found that the enemies were much too powerful for me. I crouched above them in one room and took them out one by one by shooting an arrow down on the floor to start them looking for me, which caused them to move into range where I could take potshots with my bow until they were all dead. It required great patience, but I have lots of patience.

I once killed two Mammoths by leading them to where there were some pillars I could get between. The Mammoths could not get in between the pillars and I was eventually able to take them down with poisoned arrows.

Do not let yourself be surrounded and do not allow a powerful enemy to close with you. An Orc can do incredible damage to you and usually wields a greatsword. Back off and zap him with fire or arrows. Try to take on multiple enemies in a narrow corridor so that they can only reach you one at a time.

Shoot those hanging lamps into the oil!

Also do not be ashamed to retreat or to go around. On my way up a high mountain in a recent game, at about level 15, a Troll sent me to Sovngard several times. Finally I ran up the side of the mountain into some trees and played hide and seek with him for a bit, then worked my way around him and ran as if all the demons in Oblivion were on my tail, up the trail to my goal. Once I got out of his range he quit following.

As Farengar will tell you if you listen to him, your brain is your best weapon. Use it.
Thumbcramp 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:14 
Originalmente postado por Siegfriedfr:
Hello,

I'm currently level 15 but i'm at a point where everytime i go somewhere on a quest, monsters 2-shot me and the damage i do seems very weak compared to how fast they kill me.

My 2-handed is at 43, i have steel armor, and i didn't level up any particular spec nor did invest time in raising anything in particular.

So, wheer did i go wrong ?

Thanks !
Temper your weapon for more weapon damage, Temper your armor for more armor value, learn to block power attacks, and don't spread your perks thin. Concentrate on a "build".

Other then that, dunno why you're havign a hard time. My current play through since I returned to playing has my character at lvl 33, and I don't even get hurt. Hell...I on'y use restoration for the stamina refill msot of the time. I pretty much walk through everything.
Get Dawnbreaker and Spellbreaker, get Gauldur Blackblade. There's lots of pieces to find or Google for directions.
Maybe you're trying to do areas that are outside of your level. The game has areas that are scaled but they aren't directly scaled to YOUR level. Certain areas and quests scale in a different range. You could find one easy cuz it's lvl 6-20, and another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard cuz it's 20-40.

Take the Lordstone and get the Agent of Mara active effect, if magic dmg hurts alot.
I suggest Smithing all the way up to Daedric, with the Arcane Blacksmith perk so you can craft the best stuff and temper anything you find. My armor at 33 is 925 without the alchemy exploit.

I don't know why anyone needs or suggests followers. They're annoying, get in the way and the damage they do could be you getting hit for armor perk, or you landing blows with spells/weapon. I guess they're ok at a higher level when lvling is a non issue.
Última alteração por Thumbcramp; 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:27
Rider 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:25 
Originalmente postado por Loot_junky:

I don't know why anyone needs or suggests followers. They're annoying, get in the way and the damage they do could be you getting hit for armor perk, or you landing blows with spells/weapon. I guess they're ok at a higher level when lvling is a non issue.

Follower ARE annoying and they can be a definite liability in a battle. If you are concentrating on strategy, you do not need a follower barging in or setting off traps. I use followers only in specific situations and then only those I know will be able to provide the help I need.
Última alteração por Rider; 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:26
DatRagingDemon 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:26 
2 creatures in skyrim you need to worry about.
bears.
and sabercats.
avoid them like the plague until one of your combat skills is at least at 50 with perks.
Última alteração por DatRagingDemon; 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:27
ninjajump 13 Jul, 2013 às 12:27 
also, a note on strategy: some character builds rely on certain strategies and some strategies are simply more effective than others. as an example, a one almost infallible build is to level sneaking, conjuration, and illusion. The idea is to prevent yourself from ever having to fight more than one enemy at a time. on seeing a group of enemies you use illusion to frenzy one and let them fight it out while you remain hidden. once one is dead you raise it as a zombie to continue the fight or if there are more than two you can frenzy another. If you come across a single opponent and cant rely on his friends to kill him you can still conjure up an ally and outnumber him.

keep such strategies in mind when building a character. Swinging a sword is fun and basic but its not always the best choice.
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