Brainwashed Mar 1, 2013 @ 2:13pm
Just bought Skyrim on a new PC and crashes every 5 minutes. Rhaggy Rhelp!
I just bought The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim to try out on my new PC with Windows 8.

I installed real time lighting mod and a character appearance mod via steam when I first installed it, did I corrupt my game or save file?

I have several mods downloaded via Steam, but they are not 'loaded' according to the game options. Do I need to unistalled them completely?

I'm wondering if I need to reinstall the game at this stage and run with zero mods. Perhaps my mods are the root issue. I'm seriously disapointed and stuck as to what to do.

All other games and applications run fine on the system, but Skrim just crashes to desktop with out an error - every 5 to 10 minutes of game play, basically rendering the game unusable.

Is there any way I can get some help troubleshooting this issue? I'm a 41 year old very experienced gamer who built up a new PC basically to play this one game, and it won't run. Talk about my luck. Ha!

My System:
Intel 3570K processor
Asrock Extreme 4 mainboard, latest BIOS
EVGA GTX560ti 1GB Video (Latest drivers as of 2/29/2012)
16 GB Corsair Sport RAM
128gb Samsung 840 Pro SDD Hard Drive

I am on Windows 8 Pro x64 fully patched, with the latest Nvidia drivers. No overclocking.

I unloaded any and all mods in Skyrim. I also disabled antialiasing in game settings and reduced resolution, tried running in a window and full screen. I get the same crashing behavior regardless of the settings I use.

Any way I can get some help? I'm a sad panda.

I've searched through many posts about crashing to desktop and found no real solutions other than some mods are the root cause.... but it's clear others are using these mods with no ill effects.

Should I reinstall Skyrim, and try running with no mods?

Is there a tool to help with mod load order and what mods are compatible with each other? I would LOVE to try some of the graphical update mods if at all possible.

Thanks in advance!
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Jogon Mar 1, 2013 @ 2:22pm 
Look up BOSS which is recommended to help put Mods in the right order and check them. Have not used it myself so can not give too much information on. Look it up on Steam or google it.
Dr. Shocks . DO Mar 1, 2013 @ 2:28pm 
If BOSS does not help, create a new character with no mods, and see if Skyrim runs. If it does, then the mods or your previous save game are at fault.
Last edited by Dr. Shocks . DO; Mar 1, 2013 @ 2:29pm
Tito Mar 1, 2013 @ 2:47pm 
I had a lvl 47 mage that I put over 140 hours into and I started getting CTD when trying to travel to certain locations (fast travel or just walking).... I made forum posts over at bethesda's site and found many people with the same issue... Bethesda isn't going to fix it anytime soon (or ever) the only known solution is to start a new character and cross your fingers. As far as mods go, I wouldn't go crazy like some people do....I have a few and find it is more then enough (HD offical texture pack, skyui, FSAA injector to name a few)
DrZann Mar 1, 2013 @ 3:36pm 
Disable the real time lighting mod and start a new game, see if that helps. Also, validate integrity of the game cache.

Any error messages?
Last edited by DrZann; Mar 1, 2013 @ 3:37pm
Brainwashed Mar 1, 2013 @ 3:41pm 
Thanks for the reply's guys. I appreciate it!

I'll try starting a new game now that the mods are disabled and look into BOSS as well.

I don't get any error messages at all. Just a drop to desktop with no warning. There isn't even anything in the event viewer. It's really frustrating.

The only thing that really bothers me in the game is the lighting, the graphics and faces are fine really. The real time lighting looks really flat to me. Is there a stable mod that will address that I can try?
Amarinth Mar 1, 2013 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by Tito:
I had a lvl 47 mage that I put over 140 hours into and I started getting CTD when trying to travel to certain locations (fast travel or just walking).... I made forum posts over at bethesda's site and found many people with the same issue... Bethesda isn't going to fix it anytime soon (or ever) the only known solution is to start a new character and cross your fingers. As far as mods go, I wouldn't go crazy like some people do....I have a few and find it is more then enough (HD offical texture pack, skyui, FSAA injector to name a few)

There is something else you can do to try and reduce the likelihood of your save ending up in that state of total unplayability and that's to periodically go to an indoor space (for example one of your player-owned homes) and wait / rest for ~10 consecutive ingame days without going outside.

What this does is it forces a lot of the world to reset to a more default state (for example cleared dungeons are repopulated, items you've dropped are despawned, the ten bazillion arrows stuck in random trees and walls are removed, etc). Essentially it cleans up the stuff you've interacted with in the world and in the process it removes a lot of the bugs and glitches that Skyrim tends to produce in the course of playing.

If you repeat this "wait / rest 10 days" trick every ~15-20 hours of gameplay you'll stand a much better chance of staving off the savegame bloat and savegame corruption that Skyrim suffers from so badly.
DrZann Mar 1, 2013 @ 3:55pm 
Perhaps if you enable the debugging log in Skyrim.ini, could shed some light.
[Papyrus]
...
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0
Switch the 0's to 1's.
Last edited by DrZann; Mar 1, 2013 @ 3:57pm
Brainwashed Mar 1, 2013 @ 6:09pm 
I just made it home after work and was able to try launching a new game with the mods all disabled save the high resolution packs. The hires packs were on.

With a fresh reboot and a new character the game crashed before the dragon's arrival at the opening choping block scene.

I removed the game, deleted the install folder and the Skyrim folder from my user profile and and now reinstalling a fresh copy from Steam.

Thanks DrZann. I'll try the logging tip with the reinstall.

I appreciate all the info so far.
Drowning witch Mar 1, 2013 @ 7:55pm 
could be system instabilty. have you stress tested that PC? you know intelburn test, prime95, heaven, 3d mark and all that pzazz.
blueangel_cat Mar 1, 2013 @ 8:29pm 
I had the same problem, it turns out my video card wasn't compatible with windows 8 (I had an ATI 6770) and so the drivers were doing stupid things, and anything graphics heavy would crash, and eventually, so did windows. I had to completely reinstall windows 8, from scratch and get a new video card.

I just checked and your video card isn't on the campatibility list (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/win8/CompatCenter/ProductViewerWithDefaultFilters?TempOsid=win8&Locale=en-us&TextSearch=GTX560&Type=Both&CurrentPage=0&TotalPages=1&ShowCriteria=0&SortCriteria=Relevance&Compatibility=Unknown&LastRequested=14).

If you have an integrated card on your motherboard, try disabling your GTX and try and run Skyrim off the integrated. If it works, then you have a compatibility problem.
blueangel_cat Mar 1, 2013 @ 8:31pm 
Just to add- I only had to reinstal windows from scratch because I left the problem until Windows wouldn't load, if you change the card while you're still working fine you shouldn't need to do that.
Brainwashed Mar 1, 2013 @ 9:35pm 
The video is on the list, you missed a space in the card name. :)

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/win8/CompatCenter/ProductDetailsViewer?Name=Evga%20GeForce%20GTX%20560%20Ti%20Superclocked%201GB%20Graphics%20Card&vendor=Evga&Locale=1033&ModelOrVersion=01G-P3-1563-AR&BreadCrumbPath=GTX%20560&Type=Hardware&tempOsid=win8

Well I'm pretty disapointed.. I resinstalled Skyrim, created a new character on a new save. Still crashes to desktop in the beginning of the game. Never an error, and it's always at different times.

This is the only game that does this...

I'm running LinX now to stress test then rill run Prime 95 64 bit. I ran these when I built the system and saw no issues, but am running again.
tex3000 (Banned) Mar 1, 2013 @ 10:25pm 
The more things you use to band aid what is already broken, the more problems you're going to run into. I sent you a friend request to explain some things to you so you full well know what's going on with the mods and what is and is not true because 9.9% of the people on this forum and the nexus have no clue how much damage they do to their games with mods that aren't made correctly and console commands and 3rd party programs.
Brainwashed Mar 2, 2013 @ 8:10am 
I appreciate the offer Tex, but this is a vanilla install with no mods.
pike Mar 2, 2013 @ 8:22am 
with a win8 install its best if you update .netframework 3, 3.5, 4 , 4.5 then check win update to get the service packs , i also had to update c++ 2005.2008, 2010 and directx via the web installer , and i updated my chipset drivers , after all that skyrim works great on win8
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