The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Cogajon Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:39pm
Is Morrowind really thebest Elder Scrolls game?
My friend seems to think that Morrowind is better than all of the other Elder Scrolls games, including Skyrim. Now, I have played both Morrowind and Skyrim, but I've played just over an hour in Morrowind and almost a full day in Skyrim. So overall, which is better? Any Elder Scroll title will do.
I also posted this much earlier on the Morrowind game hub and only got one "no".
Please do not argue or get aggressive.
DO NOT SAY "It's a matter of opinion" BECAUSE IAM ASKING FOR YOUR OPINION!!!
Last edited by Cogajon; Feb 17, 2013 @ 10:30pm
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Cyrax Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:44pm 
Its a matter of opinion.
In my, not only is it the best TES game, it also is the overall best game ever made.
Akarevaar Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:48pm 
Well there isn't really an answer to this. It's a matter of opinion. Some poeple, like your friend, might be sentimental about older games like Morrowind. Personally, I love Skyrim the most. It's graphics are amazing, the land is beautiful, and the addition of features from the Fallout series (lockpicking system, perks, etc.) make it the stand out winner for me. But , like I said, not all will agree with me.
No Leaf Clover Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:52pm 
Well, honestly.. depends on what you like.
The main grief against TES IV and V to most morrowind lovers (including me) is immersion level.
In Skyrim and Oblivion (worst IMO), everything is so mundane. In morrowind, you had a tremendous work made on architecture, landscapes, and the monsters seemed to come out of an LSD abuser's mind. Dark elves were at home, so they were racists as hell, making you feel alone and rejected.
Skyrim.. Dragons, wolves and skeletons. Yay. MUN-DANE.
Oblivion.. for me it was the worst in the series, design-wise. Looked awful, felt awful.
Nowadays, people seem to believe that mundane can be great. It can be good, but the overall feeling of morrowind is just way superior.
And most importantly, you can't compare those games gameplay-wise, there's a too big time gap to make any relevant comparison .
Cogajon Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:55pm 
Guys, I understand that it is a matter of opinion. I just want to know what the POPULAR opinion is. XD
No Leaf Clover Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:57pm 
Popular is morrowind is best. Which is true, but the reasons highlighted tend to be a bit far-fetched sometimes.
You should try it if you can stand the old graphics.
Something_Incredible Jan 22, 2013 @ 3:58pm 
As the guy above me said, matter of opinion.
I personally prefere Skyrim for a number of reasons:
1. Larger world
2. Shouts
3. Crafting
4. Level up anywhere
5. Fast Travel
6. Better looking armor
7. I like the people/buildings/culture of Skyrim more than Morrowind's.
8. MUCH better combat!
9. Dragons!
However, there are things Morrowind has that Skyrim dosen't, like weopens variety. Tons of diffrent weopons in that game. Also spellmaking. That was cool!
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Akarevaar Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by No Leaf Clover:
Popular is morrowind is best. Which is true, but the reasons highlighted tend to be a bit far-fetched sometimes.
You should try it if you can stand the old graphics.

Really? I've never heard anyone say Morrowind was the best before now. I thought that the general consensus was that Skyrim was the best. I may be wrong, but to me Morrowind's graphics are just to bad, and it's missing many of the key features that make Skyrim an improvement to the series.
Cogajon Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by No Leaf Clover:
Popular is morrowind is best. Which is true, but the reasons highlighted tend to be a bit far-fetched sometimes.
You should try it if you can stand the old graphics.
I have tried both. And I'm not sure. I said this in the description.
Akarevaar Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:06pm 
Going purely on sales statistics, Skyrim was far more succesful that Morrowind.
Cogajon Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Akarevaar:
Going purely on sales statistics, Skyrim was far more succesful that Morrowind.
Yeah, but that was because when Morrowind came out, it was only on the PC and XBox. When Skyrim came out, gaming was more popular and it was on the PC, PS3, and XBox 360, AND there was more DLC, increasing the profit off of Skyrim, AND the hype of the previous Elder Scrolls helped, too. Statisicly, yes, Skyrim was better. But as far as everything else: storyline, graphics, gameplay, replayability, etc, which is better. Well, obivously graphics were better in Skyrim. but yeah.
Dr. Shocks . DO Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:39pm 
I have yet to play Morrowind, but I hear the combat and leveling mechanics are pretty bad. I'm sure there's some mods that will address this when it comes time to play it.
RedSky Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:42pm 
Ah.. I remember that feeling... In Morrowind, I just staying in some beggar's shack, warm-soft light of candles blinking on the walls.. and I was just slowly looking around, looking on the table with dishes, mugs and stuff, looking on the bags with rice under bed, old chest with last 30 gold coins of poor old Dark Elf, a few books on the shelf.. The developers paid so much attention to small details of interior and as I say before, I could just stand and looking around for ages :D And every single old dwemer chalice that i found in old ruins i carried to my home, every interesting book. In basement there was a few boxes in which i have kept alchemical ingredients that i found while traveling and near was the table with stuff that required for potions creation. Ah, i just cant describe that feeling :D I love Skyrim, really well done TES game, but i missing something there... something that i have left forever in Morrowind.
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Wergild Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:44pm 
Morrowind was one of the best RPG's of all time, Skyrim is an action game leeching off the success of a once great RPG series, I may get Skyrim's DLC for closure, but I can guarantee that I will NEVER buy an Elder Scrolls game again unless they return to being full RPG's!
@Akarevaar You are correct the general census is that Skyrim is better, but only because Bethesda hit gold on the much larger console market rather than appeasing their long-term PC fanbase. In my opinion it is Skyrim that is lacking in features; the attribute system is gone, spellmaking is gone, immersion gave way to powerlevelling, Skyrim's map quality is highly varied(Windhelm interior anyone?), and the story was rather generic(you have unique powers oh, btw there are dragons). On other features they are even; the culture feels as strong in both and the storys were engaging(if not creative in skyrim's case). The only feature skyrim has that is firmly better is the graphics(and as I said, they are far more inconsistent than morrowind's)
Cogajon Jan 22, 2013 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by RedSky:
Ah.. I remember that feeling... In Morrowind, I just staying in some beggar's shack, warm-soft light of candles blinking on the walls.. and I was just slowly looking around, looking on the table with dishes, mugs and stuff, looking on the bags with rice under bed, old chest with last 30 gold coins of poor old Dark Elf, a few books on the shelf.. The developers paid so much attention to small details of interior and as I say before, I could just stand and looking around for ages :D And every single old dwemer chalice that i found in old ruins i carried to my home, every interesting book. In basement there was a few boxes in which i have kept alchemical ingredients that i found while traveling and near was the table with stuff that required for potions creation. Ah, i just cant describe that feeling :D I love Skyrim, really well done TES game, but i missing something there... something that i have left forever in Morrowind.
You should write a book. XD
Akarevaar Jan 22, 2013 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by Wergild:
In my opinion it is Skyrim that is lacking in features; the attribute system is gone, spellmaking is gone, immersion gave way to powerlevelling

I often hear people mention the fact the spellmaking is gone, but in a game like Skyrim, it would be impractical. There are just too many different spells, and too many different animations, for spell making to exist like it did in Morrowind or Oblivion.

I would have to disagree with your second point, as I find Skyrim to still be very immersive. Clearly you would think different, though.

I feel like Skyrim is a much more refined game than Morrowind. It feels like they've fixed a lot of the previous issues within the series, improved many aspects (lockpicking, perk system, etc.) added quite a few new elements to the game (smithing, dual weilding, etc.) and have only taken out a few features that weren't really important to the success of the series. I feels more tidied up.
Last edited by Akarevaar; Jan 22, 2013 @ 5:08pm
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