[z80]qazz42 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:13 Uhr
Massive lag (read: Stutter) issues on a build that should be able to run it at medium (or even low, ffs)
Okay, so I paid an entire 20 dollars for this game, which is bretty high even with sale, and I'm having non-stop lag/stuttering/etc issues. I've done everything I could find, but the performance on this game is just terrible. I made all the .ini tweaks, disabled mouse acceleration, reduced the shadow resolution, tried windowed mode, added the multithreading ♥♥♥♥ in the .ini files, the whole shebang.

What else can I do to make this darn game actually work, because it does look like this game is fun, but I'm about to lable it the worst game in my collection if I can't find out why it has these horrendous stutter issues. I mean, does bethesdia just suck, or can they not program for PC, because I've had all these issues with oblivion as well, but that's for another topic. I'm seriously wondering if they intentionally made both skyrim and oblivion intentionally garbage on the PC game so we could give more money because xbox. /rant

Here are my general comp specs [i.imgur.com]

Here are my video card specs [i.imgur.com]


issue solved:

ah, well, I fixed it now. Just disabled skyrim's vsync and used CCC's vsync (very important). After that just added one of those D3D9 injectors that set frames ahead to 2 and limits the FPS to 60, and it now runs fluently.

turns out it was the 64Hz stutter issue at hand, left over from oblivion, but unlike oblivion there are some actual fixes for it. http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1358196-bug-64-hz-again-plz-bethesda-fix/ for more information

thanks for all the help everyone!
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grimus 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:28 Uhr 
Steam help pages: (blue text will link to further help.)

Troubleshooting Game Performance Issues - Software:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9257-TUJL-7421

Troubleshooting Game Performance Issues - Hardware:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2715-YIPD-6873

Troubleshooting Mouse and Keyboard Lag:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5365-RXBN-5508

Graphic Settings: (a really good article.)
http://lifehacker.com/5985304/get-the-most-from-your-games-a-beginners-guide-to-graphics-settings
[z80]qazz42 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:35 Uhr 
sorry mate, but all of that is general performance issues, which I am not happening. the issue I'm ahving is with bethesdia's choppy PC programming causing stuttering in skyrim that I can't seem to be rid of. I posted my specs in case anyone knows what I can do to stop it. If anything, I'm due for a CPU upgrade, but it shouldn't be an issue because I'm not running on super high GFX or anything
Daisuke89 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:40 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von z80qazz42:
sorry mate, but all of that is general performance issues, which I am not happening. the issue I'm ahving is with bethesdia's choppy PC programming causing stuttering in skyrim that I can't seem to be rid of. I posted my specs in case anyone knows what I can do to stop it. If anything, I'm due for a CPU upgrade, but it shouldn't be an issue because I'm not running on super high GFX or anything

Why does everyone seem to be blaming Bethesda when their pcs can not run it? lower EVERYTHING in the graphics first, then move each one up and see whats making you lag. take off AA and AF.
[z80]qazz42 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:48 Uhr 
but my PC CAN and is SUPPOSED TO run it. Did you not look at my specs?

It meets and exceeds the minimum requirements, and I already have AA, AF all off, I reduced the shadow resolution very low, I'm running on a low resolution, all low textures, and I've installed countless optimization mods. I can run games that require much more than skyrim on medium or sometimes high.

from what I've looked up it's a huge issue with bethesdia's horrible PC programming abilities and I'm hoping that someone here knows how to make it work with the specs that I've supplied.

once again, the issue is not lag or FPS, it's with stuttering and input lag, somethign completely different.
[z80]qazz42 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:48 Uhr 
normally I'd not be this testy about something like this, but I did pay qutie a bit of money for this game ,and I've gone through every single tweak and mod out there, all with no avail.
wowszer 1. Dez. 2013 um 19:50 Uhr 
Skyrim is super intense on video, your GPU is minimal on vram, I suspect that your system is a bit light unless you toggle down the video specs or skyrim. but just to test your system, go to this site, toggle down to the elder scrolls skyrim, run the test.
http://sites.amd.com/US/GAME/TECHNOLOGY/Pages/system-requirements.aspx
[z80]qazz42 1. Dez. 2013 um 20:04 Uhr 
yup, already used that tool to make sure I knew where I was standing on graphics, I know I won't be able to run this game on ultra or anything, but I have turned off AA and AF, and then put textures on medium while putting everything else on low and turning all reflections off. According to the test, I shuold be able to run it just around medium, but even on medium the stuttering is terrible.
Caine VanScythe 1. Dez. 2013 um 23:09 Uhr 
If it's not working on medium, then put it on low. It still looks great. You shouldn't be running more than one performance mod at once. I recommend this performance booster:

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/15123//?

Bethesda isn't at fault for your lag problems. They've been putting out games primarily on the PC for 20 years. You yourself said you needed an upgrade. Anyone who knows anything about PC gaming, knows that just because you SHOULD be able to run something, doesn't mean that you CAN. I'm on a basic WIN 7 Toshiba LAPTOP with Intel integrated graphics. I shouldn't even be able to get past the start menu of this game. But I have it running just fine with plenty of mods on top of everything. If it were a bug stopping you from playing, or CTD's, then you could TRY to blame Bethesda. But since the problem is YOUR problem, you have only yourself to blame. If the same issue isn't happening to EVERYONE across the board no matter what specs they have, then you should automatically assume that YOU are the one at fault for your issues.

Try verifying the game cache, turning all the qualities to low, un-checking all the water reflections, use low shadow quality, tuning all the distance sliders to around 2 (so the game doesn't render everything from miles away), and make sure you have the correct screen resolution set. Other than that, all I can say is to upgrade or renew your system specs.

(I apologize for sounding so rude, but I'm tired of everyone blaming other people, namely game designers, for their own problems. As it is YOUR own problem. Especially since you have better specs than I do, and I can run it just fine.)
[z80]qazz42 2. Dez. 2013 um 3:33 Uhr 
Once more, the issue is with stuttering, so it won't matter what quality I put it on, either it be low or medium, the FPS will be around 50-60, if I check fraps, it's the stuttering and mouse lag that is the issue, and that is something that is a common problem with all bethesdia games. Hell, I can put oblivion on the lowest possible settings and still not go above 20 FPS due to micro-stutter in towns, whereas my crappy laptop I discarded a while back can run it at a constant 40 or more FPS

I need to knwo what are the .ini tweaks I haven't tried yet, or what mod I can get, to fix it so the stuttering goes away, from someone who knows something about this issue, which is a lot of people considering I'm not the only one who has had this issue.
DarthNachoz 2. Dez. 2013 um 4:24 Uhr 
Correction, your graphics card is too weak.
According to futuremark your card has a 480 score (tested with 3dmark, one of the more popular performance testing softwares) while mine, with half the vram, and being an integrated card, has a score of 1820. Meaning your card really sucks ♥♥♥. I don't know what games you thought you were playing that were harder on it, when it only gets about 16 fps in just cause 2, which was released over a year earlier, and had extremely modest requirements even then. Yours is also the worse version of the card, it has 1GB of RAM, but it is really slow DDR2 ram. the 512 mb version has some much better ram, but still has similar performance issues. It also barely holds above thirty fps on H.A.W.X. 2 of all things! good lord I thought my card was sucky.
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marlborz 2. Dez. 2013 um 4:33 Uhr 
If i can run two worlds with a gt640 I think it should run skyrim- maybe not all the pretty details like birds and small trig shrubs.... wait two worlds has that too! Should be ok.
Timeraider 2. Dez. 2013 um 4:37 Uhr 
Turn on vsync and dont forget to go to advanced settings and turn on detailfade?
DarthNachoz 2. Dez. 2013 um 5:00 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von marlborz:
If i can run two worlds with a gt640 I think it should run skyrim- maybe not all the pretty details like birds and small trig shrubs.... wait two worlds has that too! Should be ok.
were you saying it doesn't run on yours, or that you hoped it did? You should be fine so long as you have a quad core or high clock dual core, with at least 4 gigs of ram.
DarthNachoz 2. Dez. 2013 um 5:08 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von wowszer:
Skyrim is super intense on video, your GPU is minimal on vram, I suspect that your system is a bit light unless you toggle down the video specs or skyrim. but just to test your system, go to this site, toggle down to the elder scrolls skyrim, run the test.
http://sites.amd.com/US/GAME/TECHNOLOGY/Pages/system-requirements.aspx
He has plenty of VRAM, it's just very slow VRAM. people have managed to get this running without issue on cards with only 250 MB of ram, although, admittedly, thats on minimum settings and resolution, with shadows and such turned completely off through the .ini, although that won't help this poor guy.
сlass101 2. Dez. 2013 um 5:15 Uhr 
What do you call stuttering is screen tearing no ? (represented by the pic on this page[www.tweakguides.com]) ?
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