WHY DO WE NEED A SERVER

[Max Payne]

Well in most ways we do for playing elder scrolls V:Skyrim. However is it better then the disc eddition of elder scrolls IV:Oblivion.in my case an all others no. Why? Well for one you can adventure with no worries of Server problems or RAM and then there's no one from the NAS watching you if they can.LOL which is very plausible to simply have fun on a game.Whn you play a game through another's server you will be watched in some countries if not all.I represent a coillision on helping take back the normall right's to have most games demand a disc.:REASON?.Well If you like a game and its only online then you are stuck to deal with it ,,however if it its solo(disc) and MMO(Multi player online) then you are in the best shape,due to you can have them both.Either play alone on your computer and/or play online.If they take that choice away then you are living in a democracy and you have no rights.Lests make sure our fun and fantisies stay as they was/were when we imagined them.....your Friend Mordeeb and Grim Reaper. GR=LFD2,MD=LOTRO. please save our fun and return the solo fanttisy's.

[Danny]

TLDR and WUT?

You can play Skyrim offline btw.

[Max Payne]

i cant play my skyrim with out the steam engine due to its made to co-exsist with steam and if you use x-box yes your are lucky but are still a target for a over load. they send your x-box or plastation in and alow the files to down load to a NAS system by law then to fix it is after.however i dont even own an x-box 360 they are all crap next to the original x-box,as they say there's no strings attached to me in the movie(gammer>>>>).

[Max Payne]

BTW i CAN tel you how to gain the strength you need or what ever in morrowind III if you want to learn this its used mainly through gammers and testers to i'mprove in a mater of minutes then day,weeks and years to master it.carefull it will crash you x-box if you over do the athletics ability,send tell if you need the answerers.

[ShocksVR #AirLink]

STEAM ---> Offline Mode, case closed.

Yes, STEAM = DRM; don't like it? Then everytime you meet a "pirater" make sure you put them down and point them out to the community, they did this.

[Zloth]

If they take that choice away then you are living in a democracy and you have no rights.

Ooookay...?

I represent a coillision on helping take back the normall right's to have most games demand a disc...

*boggle*

[Danny]

Kill and hang all piraters if you want to play DRM games, skyrim isnt one of those games but yeah kill and hang in that order specifically.

[Ceejay]

Okay you are completely mis-informed and have absolutly no idea what your talking about.

Your are not playing skyrim through a server. It is running from your Local computer. Once it is installed you can play it totally offline with no connection to the internet at all. So how can they spy on you, how are they taking away your choice and how are they taking away your rights????

Yes you need a steam account to purchase/download/register it, from then on you can completely forget the internet even exisits.I happen to play it on my laptop completely offline all the time.

As for your rights on the game. Have you even read the terms and conditions? You do not actually buy and own the game, you buy the right to play the game, the property still belongs to Bethesda....So your argument falls flat on its face right there. (in fact most games have been like this all along, the arguement in the past, was about making copies of the pysical media that contained data that you techincally did not own, due to copyright).

Quite frankly your jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon without any actual knowledge, go and do some research before making claims that have absolutley no basis whatsoever..... its people like you who give the genuine people trying to fight for our rights a bad name, you're actually damaging the cause not helping.

[Fear2288]

Christ that gave me a headache to read....

As others have pointed out Skyrim does not actually need to always be online in order to play. Yes, it did require a once and done activation when you first installed it but from then on out you can put Steam in offline mode and play as much of the game as you want. This is not Diablo 3 or Sim City 5 where a persistent internet connection is needed to even start the game.

Also, I assume by "NAS" you meant "NSA"?

Give me a break, do you really think you're that important that a government agency wants up to date information on your Skyrim character?

[Yojimbo]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Fear2288:

Also, I assume by "NAS" you meant "NSA"?

Give me a break, do you really think you're that important that a government agency wants up to date information on your Skyrim character?

Was actually reported in the online gaming news that the big boss man of the NSA (or some other spy group) said mmo's are ripe for collecting data.

Though the OP is a total idiot, what he state's about the NSA isnt as far fetched as one might think.

0.02$

[Ceejay]

We all know there is spying going on, and not just the NSA, they were just the first to be caught out, but this has basically nothing to do with any of the points the op has raised. Oh my god, someone just killed Paarthanax, quick raid their house we are all doomed....

[azxcvbnm321]

Nowadays I deliberately buy games on Steam vs. disk or other site. Steam has really saved me a lot of time and trouble, I'm not good at organizing and disks get lost. I switched computers a few months ago and was easily able to redownload all my games and play them very fast.

Yes I used to pirate when I was younger and the OP reminds me of the ridiculous arguments I made as a pirate. I knew they were ridiculous, but what I really wanted was to make pirating easier for myself. There is no justification for pirating, the developers and so forth deserve to be paid for their hard work. If the game is not good enough, then you don't have to buy it, but that also means you have no right to play it.

[Roman Ringtail]

The thing about MMOs does have a point. Yes, I could perfectly well imagine a geographically wide-spread terrorist cell using guild chat on a busy WoW server in order to try to make their plans in secret, where it isn't thought of to be looked at or logged, even by game masters. Guilds don't have to accept lots of members/random people.

Fortunately, Skyrim is not an MMO, and it can be played offline. Otherwise, about the only thing you'd learn from spying on Skyrim players is that basically harmless people will get out their psychopathic mercenary/vigilante asocialism and general frustration out in private-play video games, where no harm is done.

Witness how sociopathic some MMO players can be, who think the entire point of a PvP server is for a capped, geared player to go out of his way to ruin some lowbie's day.

Anyway, I've been around computers long enough - had a little for-fun public BBS back in the day - to know that someone's always watching, somewhere, or at the very least, has sysop access to "private" mails and messages.

[Fear2288]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Yojimbo:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Fear2288:

Also, I assume by "NAS" you meant "NSA"?

Give me a break, do you really think you're that important that a government agency wants up to date information on your Skyrim character?

Was actually reported in the online gaming news that the big boss man of the NSA (or some other spy group) said mmo's are ripe for collecting data.

Though the OP is a total idiot, what he state's about the NSA isnt as far fetched as one might think.

0.02$

Yeah I heard about that too but like isengrim pointed out the reason why they went snooping in WoW (and probably other MMOs) is due to the fact that such a game could potentially be used for communication purposes between potential threats. When you think about it it's not that silly of an idea as most would think a fantasy-based MMO would be the last place anyone would look.

Point remains though that even if Skyrim required a persistent internet connection it's still singleplayer only - thus there's no way to interact or pass on information between multiple parties in-game. So if someone was spying on you the only thing they'd get whether or not you joined the Companions or if you opted to become a vampire (i.e. useless information).

[Zodasaur]

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There is no justification for pirating.

Wrong. That's like saying there isn't any justification in trying out your friend's new game to see if you want to buy it as well. If I had never played a pirated game then I would never have owned a fraction of the games I do.

[Roman Ringtail]

There used to be demos/shareware versions for to try games out. Dunno how many games still offer "try before you buy" versions any more.