gloops Dec 15, 2013 @ 3:18am
GOOGLE SKYRIM BOSS
You guys have been helpful in guiding me to this installer .... can someone tell me how it should be used please to install mods into my Skyrim game! My game is via STEAM. I don't seem to have the files in my drive directory that maybe I should ... Is this a problem please?
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Didz Dec 15, 2013 @ 3:49am 
Hi Gloops,

BOSS is not a mod installer. It doesn't instal skyrim mods.

There are three ways to instal skyrim mods:

1. Use the Nexus Mod Manager (arguably the most popular method)
2. Subscribe to the mod in the Steam Workshop. (probably the easiest way to get started)
3. Instal them manually.(This requires a basic understanding of how mods work in Skyrim, and where they go in the Steamapps folder.)

What BOSS does is help you manage the load order of your installed and active mods.

There is a really useful tutorial on how to use BOSS by Gopher here, and if you plan to use a lot of mods, and don't want to suffer constant game crashes then I would urge you to watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6MxLBcSgkc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLE7DlYarj-DdhDG41roBVJfNCqvO5MmKP
I would suggest you watch this, even though the examples are based in Fallout New Vegas.
Last edited by Didz; Dec 15, 2013 @ 3:50am
Millenium Dec 15, 2013 @ 4:33am 
Watch Gopher's 'Beginner's Guide to Modding Skyrim' videos. They are really helpful.

First one is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxQ1JN_X-_Y&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLE7DlYarj-DdhDG41roBVJfNCqvO5MmKP
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Didz Dec 15, 2013 @ 4:54am 
Yeah! I started watching that, but it's actiually aimed at people who are interested in creating mods for Skyrim rather than just using them, so I didn't recommend it for gloops as he only seems interested in how to instal and use mods.

I am subscribed to Gophers channel though, just in case I suddenly get the urge to start modding myself.
Last edited by Didz; Dec 15, 2013 @ 5:03am
gloops Dec 15, 2013 @ 4:58am 
You have been very helpful here guys. I am not interested in mod making yet. Just want to get the mods I like 'up and running'.
Millenium Dec 15, 2013 @ 5:04am 
Those videos I linked for you earlier (Beginners's Guide to Modding Skyrim) actually show you how to install Nexus Mod Manager AND MODS. Those videos won't teach you HOW TO CREATE YOUR OWN mods. So I really recommend watching them.
Didz Dec 15, 2013 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by gloops:
Just want to get the mods I like 'up and running'.
Ok! That's what I thought.

My personal advice would be to keep it as simple as possible to start.

Have a look in the Steam Workshop and see if you can find one or two mods there you like and just subscribe to them. The mods will download and install automatically, so you need to do nothing but select them.

Make sure you open the default Skyrim launcher (The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim) from your library after the mods have downloaded, and do this everytime you subscribe to a mod from the workshop. You will see messages appear at the bottom of the launch screen confirming that steam is checking that your mods are up to date, and then it will say 'Finished Checking Mods'

You can then click on the Data Files option on the default Skyrim menu and you will be able to see a list of the mods you have installed and select which ones you want to activate or deactivate.

Launch the game and you should find that the mods are doing their thing, whatever it was meant to be.
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That would be my initial advice to get started, and it's best to start with just one or two mods anyway and add more slowly in small increments. That way you can test each new set of mods in your game and if something starts going wrong, you can easily back track and remove the last few mods to restore you game to a working state.

I've already found three mods that cause my game to crash, so be wary of installing huge numbers of mods at once. You will see people on this forum complaining about their games crashing and half the time it's obvious that they have just gone overboard with the mods too quickly and can't isolate the cause of the problem.

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Once you have got to the point where you have say a dozen mods loaded. You really need to start worrying about load order and using BOSS on a regular basis to make sure you don't get conflicts. (see video above)

Also you may want to consider joining Skyrim Nexus and switching to the use of their Mod Manager to download and instal mods. Personally, I still haven't done that and I have over 60 mods loaded, but if you don't then you will either have to give up on some mods like Frostfall that can only be downloaded from the Nexus, or learn how to download and instal mods manually.

I'm currently doing the later, but it does require a bit more research and understanding of how the steamapps folder is structured and works.

That's really your choice but you don't need to make it straight away.

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Finally, once you have quite a few mods loaded you really need to consider getting TES5Edit. Gopher has a video on this ultility too, but basically it's a tool which enables you to remove bad coding from the games Update file. It can be used to edit mod files too but as Gopher points out that really that should be done by the mod author not us.

The update file however, is regularly downloaded and installed by Steam to patch the main game, and it usually contains a lot of bad code which can conflict with mods and cause your game to crash. So, once you have a few mods in use it's important to clean it every time it is updated by steam to make sure your game will still load and run without crashing.

It's a five minute process and saves you loads of potential grief, but it's only really necessary if you are using a number of mods, as the risk of conflicts actually increases according to the number of mods in use.

Hope that helps.
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[KL] Master Dan [StormCats] Dec 15, 2013 @ 7:04am 
I made a thread and it's pinned at the top of the Skyrim forum, where you posted this thread...and it has many links for tutorials and trouble shooting. Best of luck
Last edited by [KL] Master Dan [StormCats]; Dec 15, 2013 @ 7:04am
gloops Dec 15, 2013 @ 8:16am 
Say thanks here fellas' I am certainly having trouble here. I have started with the mods on the STEAM site as has been suggested. They all now show up in the data download window, but one or two of them still do not appear in game??? Oh, and I have found and used a 'TESSEdit' which BOSS put me onto which I thought would help????

Didz Dec 15, 2013 @ 8:24am 
Hi Gloops!

So, all the mods you downloaded are listed in the data file list when you click on Data Files, and their load box is ticked?

It should be by default, but its worth checking.

TES5Edit isn't really going to help, with this particular problem.

Can I ask which of the mods you loaded don't seem to be working?

Depending on which mods they are, it could be that you need to do something in game to configure or trigger them.
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[T$B™] Rainbrony Dec 15, 2013 @ 8:26am 
lol
gloops Dec 15, 2013 @ 8:43am 
Hiya Didz my friend. Well I have about 27 mods in there to date including 'Lock Pick Cheat' and 'Map Marker Complete' .. both of which have not kicked in??? I really want the 'Better Maps' mod from Nexus, but the installer won't do it for me. Keeps saying that it can't find the file or similar????
Last edited by gloops; Dec 15, 2013 @ 8:44am
Jouchebag Dec 15, 2013 @ 9:01am 
You should be using Nexus Mod Manager from the Nexus website to install your mods, but not to download them.
Didz Dec 15, 2013 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by gloops:
Hiya Didz my friend. Well I have about 27 mods in there to date including 'Lock Pick Cheat' and 'Map Marker Complete' .. both of which have not kicked in??? I really want the 'Better Maps' mod from Nexus, but the installer won't do it for me. Keeps saying that it can't find the file or similar????
Hi gloops,

I'm not able to help much with 'Lock pick cheat' or 'Map Marker Complete' as i don't use them myself. But I assume you have pressed the Tab key and made sure they don't need configuring before they are used.

The Nexus problem sounds similar to the problems I had, which was why I ended up using the Steam Workshop. I was registered with the Skyrim Nexus site and I was able to use their forum, but like you when I tried to download their Mod Manager it blocked me from doing so.

I thought that had all been sorted, and I have successfully downloaded a couple of mods manually from their site earlier today. But I must admit I tried to look at one and got a similar message to you, so there might still be a few issues.

Jouchebag is suggesting that you use Nexus Mod Manager to download your mods, which is pretty much a standard knee-jerk response one always gets when asking for help with mod installation. I don't use it because I couldn't download it, but as I said earlier it's really your decision, and you will find that most people do use it.
Kelvy Dec 15, 2013 @ 11:23am 
As per Master Dan quote open pinned topic and go to page 18, there is a how do there you may read up on, may help (under my name)
gloops Dec 16, 2013 @ 1:55am 
These help aids are really terrific guys. I have finally managed to get my mods working including the Nexus mod 'Better Sryrim Map' . I did manage to download the mod installer, however it would not allow mw to work on line, only offline. Anyway I have managed to get up and running with my mods, largely thanks to you guys here.

I still do not understand how one gets BOSS running, but this program recommended that I use this TESSE gizmo and this program seems to sort out a lot of issues guys.

Anyway it looks like I am on my way guys ...many many thanks for your help here fellas'

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