Nexus Mod Manager or Mod organizer?

[Смерть]

what is the best way or program to mod skyrim with ?

[Hanomaly]

Mod Organizer.
However Mod Organizer has a much bigger learning curve. So if you are an impatient sort of person unwilling to take maybe an hour (or more time, or less depending on how clever you are) to "learn" how Mod Organizer works... then you should do Nexus Mod Manager which is much more simple to learn.

Mod Organizer, however, never *really* puts anything in your official Skyrim Data folder.. therefore with Mod Organizer you never ever have to "reinstall" Skyrim if stuff goes wrong again. With Nexus Mod Manager things are still added to the real Skyrim Data folder and therefore there may still be times if you mess something up that you will have to reinstall the whole game.

[Kaiser]

Originally posted by Hanomaly:

Mod Organizer.
Mod Organizer, however, never *really* puts anything in your official Skyrim Data folder.. therefore with Mod Organizer you never ever have to "reinstall" Skyrim if stuff goes wrong again. With Nexus Mod Manager things are still added to the real Skyrim Data folder and therefore there may still be times if you mess something up that you will have to reinstall the whole game.

Wait, so Mod Organizer has less, if any, chance to break the game?

[Hanomaly]

Depends how you define "break the game". You can certainly break your saves with Mod Organizer, from installing poorly made mods or installing mods wrong.. because they can still get "baked" into your save file.. as it were.

However.. Mod Organizer doesn't touch the *real* files of the Skyrim Game. Therefore if you have a save game that's totally screwed up and you really must start all over again to fix it. Mod Organizer easily allows you to remove all your mods without any need.. at all.. to "verify cache" or "re-download skyrim" all over again to make sure you have all the vanilla files properly again.

It is due to the fact that Mod Organizer never really overwrites any official files.
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The fact that it doesn't really overwrite anything also allows you to run multiple "characters" with different sets of mods. That is.. one character can have all hard mode mods, mods to make the game tougher and more difficult.. while you can run another profile/character with silly and crazy mods. The mods from your two characters will never conflict.

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Eh, don't know if i'm the best at explaining things. Someone else might be able to do it better.

[Ilja]

MO indeed has a wider learning curve and setting up the game is more painful than with NMM. However, keeping your game intact and running is much easier and safer with MO.

See some of Gopher's tutorial videos - all, if you plan to actually use MO - and see, if MO is for you.

Mod Organizer (YouTube playlist) by Gopher
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7DlYarj-DcLS9LyjEqOJwFUQIIQewcK

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[♥ Barney ♥]

Mod Organizer is harder to learn, but is so much better than NMM imo. The mods are installed in a seperate folder so your original Skyrim folder remains untouched, and no mod files get overwritten, which is a problem I had with NMM, once you've downloaded 200 mods you don't know what the hell is overwriting what, or what file comes from what mod.

All the sorting out of what overwrites what is done in Mod Organizers left pane by rearranging the order. So much easier for finding out what files conflict with other mods and sorting the problem out.

[Смерть]

Originally posted by ♥ Barney ♥:

Mod Organizer is harder to learn, but is so much better than NMM imo. The mods are installed in a seperate folder so your original Skyrim folder remains untouched, and no mod files get overwritten, which is a problem I had with NMM, once you've downloaded 200 mods you don't know what the hell is overwriting what, or what file comes from what mod.

All the sorting out of what overwrites what is done in Mod Organizers left pane by rearranging the order. So much easier for finding out what files conflict with other mods and sorting the problem out.

Originally posted by Ilja:

MO indeed has a wider learning curve and setting up the game is more painful than with NMM. However, keeping your game intact and running is much easier and safer with MO.

See some of Gopher's tutorial videos - all, if you plan to actually use MO - and see, if MO is for you.

Mod Organizer (YouTube playlist) by Gopher
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7DlYarj-DcLS9LyjEqOJwFUQIIQewcK

Originally posted by Hanomaly:

Depends how you define "break the game". You can certainly break your saves with Mod Organizer, from installing poorly made mods or installing mods wrong.. because they can still get "baked" into your save file.. as it were.

However.. Mod Organizer doesn't touch the *real* files of the Skyrim Game. Therefore if you have a save game that's totally screwed up and you really must start all over again to fix it. Mod Organizer easily allows you to remove all your mods without any need.. at all.. to "verify cache" or "re-download skyrim" all over again to make sure you have all the vanilla files properly again.

It is due to the fact that Mod Organizer never really overwrites any official files.
~
The fact that it doesn't really overwrite anything also allows you to run multiple "characters" with different sets of mods. That is.. one character can have all hard mode mods, mods to make the game tougher and more difficult.. while you can run another profile/character with silly and crazy mods. The mods from your two characters will never conflict.

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Eh, don't know if i'm the best at explaining things. Someone else might be able to do it better.

Originally posted by NerdRising:

Originally posted by Hanomaly:

Mod Organizer.
Mod Organizer, however, never *really* puts anything in your official Skyrim Data folder.. therefore with Mod Organizer you never ever have to "reinstall" Skyrim if stuff goes wrong again. With Nexus Mod Manager things are still added to the real Skyrim Data folder and therefore there may still be times if you mess something up that you will have to reinstall the whole game.

Wait, so Mod Organizer has less, if any, chance to break the game?

Originally posted by Juu Cat:

Originally posted by NerdRising:

Wait, so Mod Organizer has less, if any, chance to break the game?

Much less. Just like with any Mod though, you should know what you are downloading. Always read the comments of Mods to see what other people have to say and always check the changelogs. Mod Organizer works like a virtual library for your Mods. Mods only overwrite each other in a digital way and that depends on how they are sorted. I highly recommend every Skyrim and Fallout Mod user use MO. Go watch either Gopher's series of YouTube videos on Mod Organizer or GamerPoets. They've both helped me tremendously.

im pretty familiar with MO but i just dont know what to do or what mods to install first

[MageThis]

IIja can help you there as well as Nazenn. (alphabetical order)

IIja's guide: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/34094415774892758/#p1

Nazennn's guide: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/619573787291424440/

[Смерть]

Originally posted by Juu Cat:

Originally posted by | женскийправаЛОЛ:

im pretty familiar with MO but i just dont know what to do or what mods to install first

What do you mean by what to do? It's not too hard. I suggested either Gopher's Mod Organizer Videos or GamerPoets to learn. Spend a day watching their Videos on how to use Mod Organizer. It will really help and be totally worth it. Gopher's videos teach you the essentials but GamerPoets goes into thorough detail.

With Mod Organizer you can download the Mods straight into the program just like with NMM. Just keep in mind that any Mods which has files that go into the Skyrim Data Folder SHOULD be installed thru MO. That is what MO is for. If you look at the tab 'Data' on the right side of the Mod Organizer window you would see the stuff that usually goes into the Skyrim Data Folder like "Docs", "Interface", "Meshes" "Scripts", "SKSE", "Textures" and so on.

When you install a Mod thru MO a window will pop up to choose your mod to install. Once you select a Mod a Quick Install window will come up. You want to always select Manual on this window. When you do that a new window will come up. There will be the name of your chosen Mod under <data>. Next to the name of your Mod there will be an arrow next to a checkbox. Click on the arrow (this is something you should always do no matter what) and you will get a drop down menu of what the Mod is going to add to your game. Right now I am looking at the Mod "Silian Manor V1.1" which I just downloaded the other day. In this drop down menu I get separate folders of what is going to get added to my Mod Organizers virtual library. So what I see is a Meshes drop down, Scripts drop down, Textures drop down and an ESP file. Now if you get a red message that says "No game data on top level", don't panic. It just means that the Mod Author didn't set the Data directory correctly. I get that message. So to rectify that I'm going to right click on the name of the mod I mentioned earlier (the name of the Mod that is hovering over the directories) and a small option menu will pop up. I'll hit 'Set Data Directory' and that will solve my issue. What that does is let MO place my Mod's files right. After doing this option I get a green message that says "Looks good". I hit 'okay' and the Mod gets added to the Mod list on the large left hand side window. The files will also be added to the Data tab on the right hand side.

I recommend getting the Unofficial patches from the Nexus website. There is the main Skyrim patch and then there is the one's for the DLC. Go and watch those videos I mentioned first. Learn about SKSE, ENBoost, SKSE's Memory Patch, CellStabilizer and SafetyLoad. Just be sure to read all the details and comments on the pages of the Mods though. The Nexus Staff have a zero tolerance policy for many things.

Mod shopping is kind of subjective. It depends on what you want. I mostly just want more of everything. As in more weapons, enemies, armor's and encounters so my Skyrim doesn't get too boring.

i know how to install and activate the mods lol but what im talking about is i want like a HARD HARD core playhtrough with like frost bite hunger and thirst realistic damages and realitsic draongs and i just switched from console to PC and im happy i did and the hours i do have on skyrim is to just get used to the controls on PC but if u know what im talking about it would really be awesome if u could help me :D

[♥ Barney ♥]

Heres my suggestions for Hardcore Realism - I would start off on Adept as you won't survive 10 minutes on Legendary difficulty with these.

Realistic Needs and Diseases - Have to eat, drink, sleep and can catch diseases.
Disparity - Character and race specialization - make your character really skinny and weak
Combat Evolved - Hardcore damage
Deadly Dragons