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Axelrand May 13, 2014 @ 1:25pm
Grand Soul Gems and how to fill them
What creatures have Grand souls, so that I know when to carry them in the hope of filling them on killing that creature? I now travel with Lydia carrying my Grand and Greater soul gems to prevent them filling with common or lesser souls, as I use a wicked Ebony sword enchanted with Soul Trap. Would it be better if I acquired the Soul Trap spell to cast, rather than using my sword?
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Ilja May 13, 2014 @ 1:36pm 
Spell or weapon is about your personal preference. I like to have both, though weapon is never my primary one.

This page should give you all answers about souls. Links in ingress lead to lists about creatures of that soul level.
gnewna May 13, 2014 @ 1:42pm 
Well, the advantage of using the soul trap spell is you can make sure you only use it on things that have the right kind of souls for your larger gems, the disadvantage (for me) is that you have to remember to use it at the right time (I think it works for a few seconds, but I usually either forget, or cast it right when I'm attacking, and sometimes it wears off before they die). An alternative is to have a second weapon (not enchanted, or with a different enchantment such as fire) for when you've used up all your low-quality soul gems. Either way, you still have to have a good idea of a/ what empty gems you have and b/ what kind of soul the thing you're killing has.

Another possibility is a mod such as Acquisitive Soul Gems (available both here and the Nexus, I think) which limits the gems to the appropriate sized soul. This does mean you waste some souls, but personally I prefer that to wasting gems. It could be seen as a cheat, but personally I don't really find it is, I don't end up with massively better enchanting because of it, just a lot less irritation ;) Some people just drop the under-filled gems on the floor and pick them up, which apparently 'empties' them, I've never tried it myself, though.

As far as what has what kind of soul, I think giants have Greater and mammoths have Grand. The main sources, though, are high level Falmer and Draugr, can't remember exactly which ones, but basically the scarier they are, the bigger their soul (plain draugr are 'petty', I think). (Humans also have grand souls, BUT they are 'black' rather than 'white' souls, and as such can only be trapped in black soul gems, rather than grand. There is Unpleasant Magic at work in the making of black soul gems, I believe, so you may want to think about whether your character a/ knows and b/ cares about that.)
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Zefram Cochrane May 13, 2014 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by Axelrand:
What creatures have Grand souls

Noxious Hellion May 14, 2014 @ 12:41am 
Mammoths, yes.

Also, try these few mods.

Nexus Mod Manager
SKSE (Google it actually, it's a free mod on it's own site)
(in that order)

You can then hotkey your Wicked Ebony Sword (or Soul Trap spell) to 1-9.
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istvan_v May 14, 2014 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by Axelrand:
I now travel with Lydia carrying my Grand and Greater soul gems to prevent them filling with common or lesser souls

If that happens, just drop the gem, and pick it up, it will be empty again. If you do not have black soul gems or the Black Star, then, as suggested, Mammoths are a good choice (assuming you already have the equipment and skill level to easily clear giant camps). Also, even though the giants only have greater souls, the potions created from their toes can be worth the price of a filled grand soul gem (or more than one if your alchemy is good enough).

Soul gems can be mined in Blackreach, and they will randomly (even if not often) include the black ones. If you have those, any human, even the lowest level bandit, will fill them.
DragonMaster May 14, 2014 @ 6:15am 
Humans have grand souls as well but you need to have black soul gems for them. I use a mod called Acquisitive Soul Gems Which will fill the gems with the proper souls i.e petty soul gem with petty souls; grand soul gems with grand etc. Also when you store filled soul gems in a chest or what have you they will lose their charge this mod also fixes that there.
gnewna May 14, 2014 @ 6:16am 
I've never once killed a mammoth, I get all my grand and greater souls from higher level draugr and falmer. There's loads of them to kill, and they're horrid.
DragonMaster May 14, 2014 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by gnewna:
I've never once killed a mammoth, I get all my grand and greater souls from higher level draugr and falmer. There's loads of them to kill, and they're horrid.

I couldn't agree with you more on the. I hate both of them. And if you craft a bow with soul trap and have plenty of empty soul gems of various sorts. With the mod for which I posted above you could have a variety fo filled soul gems in no time at all.<G>
gnewna May 14, 2014 @ 7:22am 
It's a lovely little mod, which I use on every character :)
DragonMaster May 14, 2014 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by gnewna:
It's a lovely little mod, which I use on every character :)

When I came across it on Nexus this current play through and started using it I liked it and it's one that I'll continue to use. There are some mods that I've got that I won't playthrough a game without and this is one of them Auto remove helmets and ammo are two others and Dragonstead is a 3rd.
Axelrand May 14, 2014 @ 9:46am 
Thanx all, excellent advice as always! I'm totally with gnewna on the mammoth thing. Mind you, taking on those high level Falmer and Draugr is no stroll in the park! I'm liking the soul-trap bow idea! You know, sometimes I wonder if I'm cut out for Skyrim. I may not be bad♥♥♥♥♥♥♥enuff for some of it's ways, like killing Giants or Mammoths. I got quite upset when I had to kill a whole camp of Forsworn, coz they attacked me. I think what upset me most, was that they were mostly women, well, girls almost, and apart from their psychopathic tendencies, seemed like an otherwise quite nice eco-tribe. :)
Malak May 14, 2014 @ 10:57am 
Have no clue where this is because it was in my ~3rd day of playing, but there is one of those rings with 3 pillars and a mammoth is nearby with no giants. The pillars made killing it quite safe. Took awhile even with my follower. Def a better route than a final boss. Mammoths are great for archery leveling because they are so hard to miss, even if you don't kill them. lol
Axelrand May 14, 2014 @ 12:22pm 
V good point and tip Malak, especially the archery bit. The only time I had a go at a Mammoth, it was sucking up arrows like a pincushion! :) Thinkin about it, I need a Mammoth tusk for a misc quest, hmnn...
It would be nice to have a few clues as to location. Did you mean 3rd Skyrim day or real time? How many hours do ya think that was, coz you start at Helgen and on foot! I'm guessing it's in the Riverwood/Whiterun area.
Malak May 14, 2014 @ 12:49pm 
It's so hard to know where because I just like exploring, but I do think we were following a beeline direction on a quest. 3rd day in real time. Oh! It's very close to where there is a combination puzzle to open a grate in the ground. Southwest of Fort Greymoor.

It is in sight of this:
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DragonMaster May 14, 2014 @ 1:10pm 
Malak I've come across that thing several times and tried to figure it out yet to no avail. If you find out post it will you please?
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